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    Believe. Flintstones32's Avatar
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    You gotta feel for the guy. It would be extremely hard to watch your life fall apart while the guy a lot of people said you were better than on draft day is having a HOF career.

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    We'll Be Back Spursfan092120's Avatar
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    He hit rock bottom a long time ago. Amazing that many people, at one time, thought he'd be a better pro than Peyton Manning. When he was a Cowboy, that was a real hard time to be a fan. But I guess when you're a real fan, you're a fan no matter what.


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    The Last Good Sport samikeyp's Avatar
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    When he was a Cowboy, that was a real hard time to be a fan. But I guess when you're a real fan, you're a fan no matter what.

    True. Many people forget that. Its easy to be a fan of a winning team, it takes dedication to stay a fan of one that isn't.

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    We'll Be Back Spursfan092120's Avatar
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    True. Many people forget that. Its easy to be a fan of a winning team, it takes dedication to stay a fan of one that isn't.
    dedication doesn't even begin to describe it...lol...

    Real Cowboys fans remember this...and if they're still a fan, they deserve to be commended...

    http://www.pro-football-reference.co...s/dal/1989.htm

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    The Last Good Sport samikeyp's Avatar
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    dedication doesn't even begin to describe it...lol...

    Real Cowboys fans remember this...and if they're still a fan, they deserve to be commended...

    http://www.pro-football-reference.co...s/dal/1989.htm

    I am.

    I was actually at a friend's house watching that Redskins game that they won, and that friend...was a Washington fan.

    That was fun!

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    True. Many people forget that. Its easy to be a fan of a winning team, it takes dedication to stay a fan of one that isn't.
    No . I've been a Texans fan since they announced Houston was getting a team back and it's hard. Especially in a city where 95% of the population support the Cowboys. It's going to suck to see all the bandwagoners jump on board in the next couple of seasons when the Texans are the best team in Texas. But I'm extremely loyal to my teams. I still watch the Astros almost every night suck and I was a lifelong Aggie fan and now follow North Texas football since I'm going to school there. It takes balls to be a fan of ty teams.

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    We'll Be Back Spursfan092120's Avatar
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    I am.

    I was actually at a friend's house watching that Redskins game that they won, and that friend...was a Washington fan.

    That was fun!
    LOL..I watched the game at my house...I was only 9...but I remember it like we won the damn Super Bowl.

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    We'll Be Back Spursfan092120's Avatar
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    No . I've been a Texans fan since they announced Houston was getting a team back and it's hard. Especially in a city where 95% of the population support the Cowboys. It's going to suck to see all the bandwagoners jump on board in the next couple of seasons when the Texans are the best team in Texas. But I'm extremely loyal to my teams. I still watch the Astros almost every night suck and I was a lifelong Aggie fan and now follow North Texas football since I'm going to school there. It takes balls to be a fan of ty teams.
    I'm a Cowboys fan...my second favorite team is Houston...that comes back from Warren Moon and the Oilers. I wanted a Texas Super Bowl so bad for Super Bowl XXVII. ing Buffalo coming back from a 35-3 deficit to win 41-38...absolutely ridiculous. Houston has a great future ahead of them.

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    BOlieve manufan10's Avatar
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    He hit rock bottom a long time ago. Amazing that many people, at one time, thought he'd be a better pro than Peyton Manning. When he was a Cowboy, that was a real hard time to be a fan. But I guess when you're a real fan, you're a fan no matter what.

    Man those three straight 5-11 seasons were killers! It sucked having to watch Emmitt play his last seasons with a guy like Leaf at quarterback.

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    We'll Be Back Spursfan092120's Avatar
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    Man those three straight 5-11 seasons were killers! It sucked having to watch Emmitt play his last seasons with a guy like Leaf at quarterback.
    I know...it was horrible.

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    Ina world of hype, we win IronMexican's Avatar
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    Steven, I know it's tough. You think it's easy rootibg for USC, the Lakers and Dodgers? The ing Raiders, though.

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    No . I've been a Texans fan since they announced Houston was getting a team back and it's hard. Especially in a city where 95% of the population support the Cowboys. It's going to suck to see all the bandwagoners jump on board in the next couple of seasons when the Texans are the best team in Texas. But I'm extremely loyal to my teams. I still watch the Astros almost every night suck and I was a lifelong Aggie fan and now follow North Texas football since I'm going to school there. It takes balls to be a fan of ty teams.
    Me too bro...Oilers and Texans both. Any fan that lived through what happened in 1992 knows pain that can only be felt by experience. ESPN is still nice enough to rerun that game occasionally.......

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    I love the Texans. Have since they started existing.

    I used to like the Cowboys when I was young, and then I saw how evil Jerry Jones was and stopped being a fan... Now I sorta kinda want them to win, cause they are a Texas team, but I still hate Jones...

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    No . I've been a Texans fan since they announced Houston was getting a team back and it's hard. Especially in a city where 95% of the population support the Cowboys. It's going to suck to see all the bandwagoners jump on board in the next couple of seasons when the Texans are the best team in Texas. But I'm extremely loyal to my teams. I still watch the Astros almost every night suck and I was a lifelong Aggie fan and now follow North Texas football since I'm going to school there. It takes balls to be a fan of ty teams.
    I remember going to a bar and cheering the Texans on in their first game against the Cowboys in... 02? Just because my friend was a Cowboys fan.

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    Ryan Leaf bottomed out a LONG time ago.

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    You gotta feel for the guy. It would be extremely hard to watch your life fall apart while the guy a lot of people said you were better than on draft day is having a HOF career.
    Ryan Leaf. That dummy contributed to every obsatcle he had in his career.

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    Where Everything Happens The Franchise's Avatar
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    Steven, I know it's tough. You think it's easy rootibg for USC, the Lakers and Dodgers? The ing Raiders, though.
    That can cause ulcers.

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    You gotta feel for the guy. It would be extremely hard to watch your life fall apart while the guy a lot of people said you were better than on draft day is having a HOF career.
    Why should anyone feel for the guy? He is not a victim of cir stance. He had opportunities for success that virtually nobody ever gets. He let it all slip away by being a lousy human being.

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    Why should anyone feel for the guy? He is not a victim of cir stance. He had opportunities for success that virtually nobody ever gets. He let it all slip away by being a lousy human being.
    +1

    He had all the talent to be a decade and a half starting QB in this league. He just had a fragile mental baby personality. He had no idea to deal with the first adversity that crossed his path. He was probably coddled and babied and treated special all the way from Pop Warner to HS to NCAA.

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    Future Hall of Famer DBryant88's Avatar
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    leaf=

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    LEaf is a punk ass . This guy that his didn't stink and laid the F'out.

    He deserves what he gets. From all the accounts I've read in the past about him about how he treated people, F'him. My dad always said to me, "HC, what goes around, comes around my friend."

    So to you Ryan Lead I say

    HC

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    Ryan Leaf released from prison

    By Matt Verderame@MattVerderame on Dec 4 2014, 9:43a 28




    Ex-San Diego Chargers quarterback Ryan Leaf was released from a Montana prison Wednesday after serving over two years for breaking into a house for prescription pills, according to the Associated Press. Leaf is now under the supervision of Great Falls Probation and Parole in Montana.
    Leaf was already on probation in Texas for charges of fraudulently obtaining a controlled substance back in 2008. Leaf was originally sentenced to five years in prison but was given credit for time served.

    Leaf was selected by the Chargers with the second-overall pick of the 1998 NFL Draft, behind Peyton Manning. At the time, there was debate about who the Indianapolis Colts would take with the top-pick, but general manager Bill Polian had no such issue. As it played out, the divide between Leaf's career and Manning's became massive with every pass thrown.
    Leaf only lasted four seasons in the NFL, throwing 14 touchdowns against 36 interceptions. The former Washington State standout had perhaps the worst rookie season in NFL history, tossing two scores and 15 picks with a 45.3 percent completion percentage. He last appeared in the league with the Dallas Cowboys in 2001, playing in four games.

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    Maybe the Jets can pick him up. He's still a white QB afterall.

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