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    Finley helped us, especially in 06 and 07 but he's done.

    I hope he doesn't come back

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    I think he would be a good trade asset to a team that is looking to make room for 2010 off-season. His expiring contract might be hard for another team to pass up via trade. We'll see what happens.

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    How many children do Finley n Pop have?

    That always figures into the decision.

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    Call me crazy, but part of me hopes Finley picks up his option. Say what you want about him, but for $2.5 million, you're not likely to get similar production offensively from another player. Granted, we all wish Pop would play him 20 mpg instead of 30 mpg, but that is what it is.

    Worst case, I think his contract becomes a pretty decent trade chip; expiring contract of a vet who can actually still play a bit, the Spurs should have no problem trading that away if they want to. In fact, if teams want something with a little more actual value than the Oberto/Bowen contracts, perhaps the Spurs can get away with giving them Finley rather than Mason or Hill.

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    I would expect the Spurs to get Finley's decision by tomorrow evening.

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    The FO needs to spell out to Findley his role if he picks up his option---- limited time off the bench and a lot to DNP's. He should not be on this team next year. Vaughn, Thomas, and Ime also are expendable. We need a replacement for Bonner as a starter. If Hill can't handle being permanent backup PG to Tony then we need to find one. Mason is a decent enough starterat SG but sucks at PG because he can't penetrate and is less than a creative passer. If Oberto is healthy enough I give him the start at center with Mahimni as backup. The salary cap makes the process difficult. Lack of billionaire owner also complicates things. How do you beat the Lakers is 64.000$ question of what the FO must do!!!! Like the Celtics, the Spurs are on the clock before their BIG 3 are history. We are fortunate to have a BIG 3. Screw 2010!

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    Anyone pining for Fin to return may as well just admit here on the forum that you don't want the Spurs to make a run at the championship in 2010, because it ain't happening with him on the roster.

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    If Manu doesn't go down then Finley doesn't get all those minutes.

    If Roger Mason played better than he did, then Finley doesn't get all those minutes, and so on and so forth...

    If Finley wasn't on the team then who does Pop trust to make that last shot in final game of the season?

    Having Finley as a reserve on the team isn't a negative. I really wonder about some people's logic.

    As stated earlier, should he choose to resign, at the very least he would be a decent trade chip.

    From all the interviews I've seen of him, Fin is professional, wise and well spoken. You know the kind of veteran presence ball clubs covet, to serve as a role model for younger players and who will help new players understand the Spurs system. Someone to talk to and ask questions, give perspective.

    And who knows... Fin come playoff time might have a few "I know this is my last season and I want to win one more ring, no matter what..." plays.

    So if Fin resigns it's not Doomsday. It might turn out to be a blessing in disguise.

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    If Manu doesn't go down then Finley doesn't get all those minutes.

    If Roger Mason played better than he did, then Finley doesn't get all those minutes, and so on and so forth...

    If Finley wasn't on the team then who does Pop trust to make that last shot in final game of the season?

    Having Finley as a reserve on the team isn't a negative. I really wonder about some people's logic.

    As stated earlier, should he choose to resign, at the very least he would be a decent trade chip.

    From all the interviews I've seen of him, Fin is professional, wise and well spoken. You know the kind of veteran presence ball clubs covet, to serve as a role model for younger players and who will help new players understand the Spurs system. Someone to talk to and ask questions, give perspective.

    And who knows... Fin come playoff time might have a few "I know this is my last season and I want to win one more ring, no matter what..." plays.

    So if Fin resigns it's not Doomsday. It might turn out to be a blessing in disguise.
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    Fin always seems professional and works hard. He even changed his summer routine and came into camp lighter and ready to go. Nothing to hate on here. If Pop played him more than he should have, then that is Pop's issue, not Fin's.

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    I don't think anyone is pining for him to return. Some of us just think he wouldn't be a bad option at the end of the bench. Log some DNP's and play around 10 minutes depending on the situation.

    While the FO surely understands some youth needs to be involved they're not going to rely solely on guys like Hairston, Williams, Gist, maybe a draft pick to handle all the duties. Maybe if they pull off a trade or get an established free agent to resume the starting sf role then they can have those guys as backups.

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    why do people think that Michael Finley with a 2.5 million dollar one year deal is some kind of desirable tradable asset?

    That isn't some great expiring bargain teams would want to trade for. It's only 2.5!

    Here's a comparison. Jackie Butler had a 2.5 expiring deal, and the Spurs had to include LUIS SCOLA just to get rid of him.

    It's not like he's Bowen or Oberto (who make more) that are only partially guaranteed.

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    Jackie Butler was a bust and had some character issues. At least Finley could provide leadership and spot minutes off the bench. A character guy who's been through it all. Nothing flashy but wouldn't hurt a team either.

    Obviously a team wouldn't be trading for him because they expect him to lead them to a championship. But included in a bigger package along with Bonner or Mason or Thomas or Oberto or some combination to team looking for cap space next year is likely.

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    Jackie Butler was a bust and had some character issues. At least Finley could provide leadership and spot minutes off the bench. A character guy who's been through it all. Nothing flashy but wouldn't hurt a team either.

    Obviously a team wouldn't be trading for him because they expect him to lead them to a championship. But included in a bigger package along with Bonner or Mason or Thomas or Oberto or some combination to team looking for cap space next year is likely.
    when it comes to packaging Finley is far down the ladder on Spurs expiring deals. The bigger the $ the easier the trade. KT, Oberto, Bonner, Bowen, Mason all make more than Finley and packaged can get somewhere.

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    why do people think that Michael Finley with a 2.5 million dollar one year deal is some kind of desirable tradable asset?

    That isn't some great expiring bargain teams would want to trade for. It's only 2.5!

    Here's a comparison. Jackie Butler had a 2.5 expiring deal, and the Spurs had to include LUIS SCOLA just to get rid of him.

    It's not like he's Bowen or Oberto (who make more) that are only partially guaranteed.
    Not only is that a horrible comparison, it's not accurate. Jackie Butler had 2 years left on his contract at close to $2.5 mil per, and had next to zero percent chance of contributing to an NBA team. That contract was an absolute albatross; the Rockets ate nearly $5 million and a non-trivial amount of cap space for 2 years to acquire Scola.

    Finley, on the other hand, is a legitimate expiring contract who averaged 10 points, 3 rebounds, and 1.5 assists per game last year. I agree that $2.5 isn't a lot money-wise to get back in a trade, but the more expiring contracts you have, the more flexibility you have to mix-and-match them to get the right deal.

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    Not only is that a horrible comparison, it's not accurate. Jackie Butler had 2 years left on his contract at close to $2.5 mil per, and had next to zero percent chance of contributing to an NBA team. That contract was an absolute albatross; the Rockets ate nearly $5 million and a non-trivial amount of cap space for 2 years to acquire Scola.

    Finley, on the other hand, is a legitimate expiring contract who averaged 10 points, 3 rebounds, and 1.5 assists per game last year. I agree that $2.5 isn't a lot money-wise to get back in a trade, but the more expiring contracts you have, the more flexibility you have to mix-and-match them to get the right deal.
    Get your facts straight. Butler had 1+1 remaining with the last year being a team option.

    That contract was no albatross.

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    Get your facts straight. Butler had 1+1 remaining with the last year being a team option.

    That contract was no albatross.
    If that's the case, I apologize. Either way, it's still a bad comparison. There's a huge difference between a player of Finley's caliber and a player who the Rockets cut before the season even started, preferring to eat $2.5 million in both salary and cap space on him rather than give up a roster spot.

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    Can't we just send him back to Dallas?

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    Its no longer a "Doomsday signing"..
    If he does pick up his option, he'll get garbage time.
    Last edited by rayray2k8; 06-23-2009 at 03:03 PM.

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    The RJ trade is key for Finley.

    If he wants to play he'll not pick his option because he knows he won't get any minutes.

    If he just want to be part of a gooed team, playing very few minutes he'll stay.

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    Hopefully Fin sees the writing on the wall and go signs with Miami or somewhere else.

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