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Hopefully he continues the positive trend of Spurs players from Arizona (Elliott & Kerr)
I am not sure this is a good trade for the Spurs.
Their defense was up to their usual par this past season and now with this trade it gets even worse. The offense will be better but at what cost?
We traded away basically our entire frontcourt save TD and Bonner. I have heard that the Bucks may release Bruce and Kurt and we resign them, but that is not guaranteed.
Ian is no guarantee either, he is unproven, and even then we need another big in the middle.
Hopefully he continues the positive trend of Spurs players from Arizona (Elliott & Kerr)
Gasol was also traded for CAP SPACE buddy.
Let's see, Memphis got 3 picks a starting center, 2guard prospect and cap space for 2010. Along with having been ty enough to attain two lottery picks which don't happen with Gasol starting every game.
Lmao
Bad teams make bad deals to good teams.
Milwaukee is a bad team.
Memphis bent over for the LakeShow to give Gasol away. Why? They're a bad team.
These bad teams are constantly trying to dump salary so they can constantly suck so they can consistently get into the lottery and sign their high draft picks so they can dump them later on for more flexability to suck.
You guys(SA) should go after Zasa Pachulia in FA.
He'd be a nice fit down there.
Memphis being bad and landing lottery picks has nothing to do with what LA gave up to get Gasol.
The Clippers sucked terribly over the years because they refused to sign their FA, doesn't make those good decisions.
BTW, only thing that was of anything of value to the Grizzlies was cap space and Marc Gasol, and the capspace gotten by the Gasol deal still hasn't been used, while the Jefferson deal will allow the Bucks to sign Villaneuva and/or Sessions.
You can not have it both ways. Either it's lopsided and a great deal for the Spurs, or it's not that great of a deal. I choose the first- Thomas for Jefferson is pretty lopsided, especially when no picks are involved. At least Memphis got picks for the future.
Yes it did. Try using your brain. Healthy a Gasol out there = more wins. Instead of drafting top 5 you're looking at 9-15
Darrel Arthur looks like a very promising big (Lakers 1st rounder last season). So that's TWO things of value the trade already has over the Spurs. The cap space is quite obviously for 2010.
The Lakers did not trade lottery picks for Gasol. Memphis just happened to get lottery picks because they traded away Gasol. While one led to the other, these two are separate transactions.
If I sold a bar of chocolate for $2, then used that $2 to buy a lottery ticket that turns out to be the winning ticket, winning me $5 million, it would mean I sold the chocolate bar for $2, not $5 million.
Really, the Grizzlies got a rookie who averaged 6/5 and a 12/7 center for their franchise player? What a steal!
The Bucks already have cap space now to sign Villanueva and/or Sessions at this point, at least they have a clear immediate incentive to get cap space. The Grizzlies never did, and still haven't used that cap space. The Grizzlies STILL have the cap space left that they have no clear plans of using.
Who said it wasn't lopsided? Just that this one has a clear incentive for the Bucks, while the Gasol trade has no clear incentives for the Grizz
That's how it works in the NBA. Hanging around in the middle of the pack is the worst way to rebuild. Gasol would have hurt their draft position while his contract would have made it impossible to add an impact free agent. Gasol wasn't the only factor in this, but his absent was a factor in the Grizzlies getting that high of a draft pick no matter how you slice it.
Calling Gasol a "franchise player" is hilarious. He proved he was incapable of being a franchise player, despite getting paid like one. Hence the reason he was traded.
Rookie has upside. The center that avg 12/7 is 24. Still have two more Laker related draft picks. We haven't talked about the cap space it created to sign an impact free agent. Which is exactly what the Bucks traded for while getting nothing else return. On top that, the players the Spurs traded will most likely resign with them. I don't see Marc Gasol backing up Andrew Bynum.
Again. Do you lack a brain? They can't use that cap space until July 1st. Even then, 2010 is the year you want to be under the cap. It's quite obvious what the plan is.
Basically Spurs fan defending this trade while crying about the Gasol trade at any point during their posting career is nothing more than a hypocrite. Popovich the biggest among them all.
Just accept the obvious gift and move on.
Now that the Bucks are going to release Oberto/Bowen, it's a pretty equal trade.
RJ for Thomas
The saddest and funniest thing of all is watching all of the Spurs fans think their team has a chance now.
Without a frontcourt the Spurs will be sent fishing yet again.
Not even close idiot……. The Gaysol trade will be remembered for ever as the biggest steal on NBA history.
And why do you care?
I agree. Since they plan to have 8 players on their team this year.
And they are already approaching the $70 million salary mark.
The Lakers gave up Kwame Brown and unproven talent for Pau Gasol. That is as lopsided as trades get. The Spurs just gave up 2 players who have won NBA championships, though on the decline, that is still giving up more than what the Lakers gave up imo.
No, because George Gervin didn't sully his name forever by sabotaging another team.
I don't really get criticizing the spurs for their front-court right now, you should at least wait a little
you act as if the spurs will do nothing and have no time whatsoever to adress the situation
And the plan to rebuild is to trade away your best asset for a couple of late 1st round picks? I find it absolutely hilarious you would question my amount of grey matter.
Gasol for young talent, cap space and high draft picks would make sense. In this case, the Grizzlies got minimal talent, cap space, and low picks (which actually contributed to the minimal talent).
He was paid $11 to $12 million, with raises going up to around $18 in 3 years. These are very reasonable salary, especially when compared to players like Shawn Marion, Michael Redd, and Jermaine O'Neal.
And he WAS their franchise player, he carried a team to the playoffs for a couple of years, and performed relatively well under the cir stances.
Marc Gasol was a 2nd round pick for a reason. The highest ceiling you can get with Marc Gasol's upside is nowhere near Pau Gasol's.
So with your infinitelintelligence, who do the Grizzlies have a chance to sign? Their plan was to stink up so ridiculously bad that they could sign a free agent? If I have a brain as large as yours, I am sure I can understand that NBA free agents actually sign for bad teams like they did with the Bulls a few years back.
And who in 2010 would sign with the Grizzlies? Wade? Bosh? Lebron? The Grizzlies are so bad now, Rubio and Theebet are sabotaging their chances of being drafted by them.
AND cap space and the ability to rebuild through the draft. Gasol gone means high lottery picks. Use common sense.
No, Memphis got back young talent including picks which is young talent. Cap space will allow Memphis to sign a player that WANTS to play there. Matter of fact the cap space created by Gasol being gone means they can sign two player and keep their young talent around when the time comes.
No it wasn't reasonable at the time since Gasol was constantly complaining and asking out of Memphis. At the time he was overwhelming thought of as overpaid for what he brought.
No, they thought he was their franchise player and he proved he wasn't capable. 0-12 in the playoffs speak for itself. Yeah, he sure carried them to a goose egg.
He averaged 12 and 7. He's a top 10 center in the NBA. Oh and young.
NBA players follow the money. Always have always will. And their plan was to give the team to a bunch of young guys to develop them while stinking up the place in order to attain a top 5 pick. It worked.
Go look at the FA agent list for this season and next. Plenty of players out there and not enough teams to pay them all. Just because they don't sign Wade or Lebron doesn't mean they can't sign two real good player wtih the cap space to compliment their young core.
Funny thing is Memphis is looking much better off than the Bucks. Gave up a 20 pt scorer for LUXURY TAX relief. Yeah I'm sure players are dying to sign in Milwaukee. Even your arguments are hypocritical.
Neither of whom will ever play a minute for the Bucks.
I think the FO office didn't want to spend all summer reading about how they need to make a big trade and some bold moves so they wanted to be the first to make a splash. That way when Pop, Holt, and R.C. read Spurstalk they can at least say "Hey we tried to make them happy"
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