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    Are the Spurs short of big men?
    By Joe Alexander

    The reported trade between the Spurs and Bucks would leave the Spurs without two of the four players listed at center on their current roster - Fabricio Oberto and Kurt Thomas.

    That would have the Spurs looking to find a combination of players to eat up minutes - and hopefully provide some scoring, rebounding and defense - next to Tim Duncan.

    Matt Bonner, who the Spurs listed as their starting center for most of last season, is under contract for one more season. He averaged 8.2 points and 4.8 rebounds in the 2008-09 regular season. His production slipped to 3.0 points and 3.2 rebounds in the playoffs.

    This would be a great time for 22-year-old Ian Mahinmi to get healthy and be able to make a contribution. The 6-foot-11 center has only played in six NBA games in his career and had last season wiped out by an ankle injury. If Mahinmi had gone to college for four years starting at 18, he would have just finished his senior year - so it's not like he's over the hill.

    Drew Gooden joined the Spurs late last season and averaged 7.3 points and 3.8 rebounds in the playoffs. He saw action in four of the five first-round games against the Mavericks. Gooden averages 12.0 points and 7.9 rebounds for his career. It will be interesting to see if the 6-foot-10 forward is back in a Spurs uniform next season.

    Hoopshype.com has an easy to understand list of player salaries:

    Spurs salaries

    Bucks salaries

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    Patience grasshopper...more moves are coming.

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    Sequ answer: yes.

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    Spurs championship hopes are going to drop like tommy gun bullets on valentines day if we don't beef up the front court with some non-gooden non-bonner non-china doll players.

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    Patience grasshopper...more moves are coming.
    Not unless we're moving one of the big 3. There just isn't much player salary or tax room outside of that.

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    You guys should really go after Sheed w/ the MLE.

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    If you're gonna be short two big men, July is the time to do it. Stay tuned, more moves to be made.

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    Not unless we're moving one of the big 3. There just isn't much player salary or tax room outside of that.
    Finley, Mason, Bonner and Hill comprise of 10.5M in expiring contracts. A deal within that range could be done.

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    They're far from done. It's highly unlikely the Spurs will be able to address their need for a big in the NBA draft. I expect another FA move a coming.

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    Finley, Mason, Bonner and Hill comprise of 10.5M in expiring contracts. A deal within that range could be done.
    There's no possible way that Hill is traded now. With less cap room available, how would you expect the Spurs to fill the backup PG spot if Hill was dealt? Clearly, if the Spurs were to make a deal, it would be for a big. If Hill is dealt for a big, then the Spurs' backup PG position is ed.

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    Admiral coming out of retirement August 09!

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    There's no possible way that Hill is traded now. With less cap room available, how would you expect the Spurs to fill the backup PG spot if Hill was dealt? Clearly, if the Spurs were to make a deal, it would be for a big. If Hill is dealt for a big, then the Spurs' backup PG position is ed.
    There are some players that might shake loose in FA for cheap and in this draft they might be able to move up just enough to draft one (Mills...)

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    There are some players that might shake loose in FA for cheap and in this draft they might be able to move up just enough to draft one (Mills...)
    The only leverage to move up in the draft, outside of the big 3, just went out in trade.

    You people realize that you HAVE to have 13 players, and the Spurs are sitting on 10, or 11 if you count Finley as staying, don't you?

    They probably have 3 slots to fill and THEY ARE AT OR OVER THE TAX.

    More moves, my ass. They'll sign some big stiff to bang with Shaq and Yao, and that will be the off season.

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    I'm inclined to agree with ex, but perhaps, just perhaps, Holt Cat realizes that the window is closing and it's now or never.

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    The only leverage to move up in the draft, outside of the big 3, just went out in trade.

    You people realize that you HAVE to have 13 players, and the Spurs are sitting on 10, or 11 if you count Finley as staying, don't you?

    They probably have 3 slots to fill and THEY ARE AT OR OVER THE TAX.

    More moves, my ass. They'll sign some big stiff to bang with Shaq and Yao, and that will be the off season.

    They are already 4.5m over the luxury tax and from Buck Harvey's article....Peter Holt is okay with that. And he knows that the Spurs will try to make some more moves to add another big or two.

    Plus they have the MLE and LLE.....so something else will happen.

    Give the Spurs' FO for taking a good risk on getting RJ.

    It's always easy to criticize them.....but also give credit where its due as well.

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    The only leverage to move up in the draft, outside of the big 3, just went out in trade.

    You people realize that you HAVE to have 13 players, and the Spurs are sitting on 10, or 11 if you count Finley as staying, don't you?

    They probably have 3 slots to fill and THEY ARE AT OR OVER THE TAX.

    More moves, my ass. They'll sign some big stiff to bang with Shaq and Yao, and that will be the off season.
    Your an idiot exstatic just like you were in the Trade Thread: Richard Jefferson topic. Spurs could easily land a big like Camby for Bonner Mason and Marcus Williams. More than likely Detroit will decline Oberto's option as they will try to add Boozer and Gordon in free agency, so theres a good chance Oberto comes back for the minimum. Same with Bowen. Then you can sign a Malik Rose or Mihm for the vet minimum .So that leaves us with a potential...


    PG: Parker/ Hill
    SG: Manu/ Finley
    SF: Jefferson/ Bowen/ Hairston/ Gist
    PF: Tim / (Rose/ Mihm/ Vet minimum PF or C)
    C: Camby/ Mahimni/ Oberto

    Then my friend you can add 2 spots on the inactive roster with your 2nd round picks or maybe even sign Kurt to the minimum if he gets bought out. That is how you can add a big man without trading one of the big three. I'm convinced Spurs are not done with trades this offseason. And obviously Holt doesn't mind going over the luxury tax, meaning even with this trade, Spurs could still go after Sheed/ Gortat/ Mcdyess in free agency with their MLE. In other words don't be so ignorant saying " more moves my ass". You were wrong before and you are more likely to be wrong again. Go talk about things you may know more about in other threads.
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    They are already 4.5m over the luxury tax and from Buck Harvey's article....Peter Holt is okay with that. And he knows that the Spurs will try to make some more moves to add another big or two.

    Plus they have the MLE and LLE.....so something else will happen.

    Give the Spurs' FO for taking a good risk on getting RJ.

    It's always easy to criticize them.....but also give credit where its due as well.
    Amen.

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    I'm okay with criticism when its deserved.

    However, I'm okay with giving credit when its due also.

    You have to do both.

    This time the Spurs FO' deserves credit for taking a good risk!!


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    What to do, what to do.

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    Your an idiot exstatic just like you were in the Trade Thread: Richard Jefferson topic. Spurs could easily land a big like Camby for Bonner Mason and Marcus Williams. More than likely Detroit will decline Oberto's option as they will try to add Boozer and Gordon in free agency, so theres a good chance Oberto comes back for the minimum. Same with Bowen. Then you can sign a Malik Rose or Mihm for the vet minimum .So that leaves us with a potential...


    PG: Parker/ Hill
    SG: Manu/ Finley
    SF: Jefferson/ Bowen/ Hairston/ Gist
    PF: Tim / (Rose/ Mihm/ Vet minimum PF or C)
    C: Camby/ Mahimni/ Oberto

    Then my friend you can add 2 spots on the inactive roster with your 2nd round picks or maybe even sign Kurt to the minimum if he gets bought out. That is how you can add a big man without trading one of the big three. I'm convinced Spurs are not done with trades this offseason. And obviously Holt doesn't mind going over the luxury tax, meaning even with this trade, Spurs could still go after Sheed/ Gortat/ Mcdyess in free agency with their MLE. In other words don't be so ignorant saying " more moves my ass". You were wrong before and you are more likely to be wrong again. Go talk about things you may know more about in other threads.
    I wouldn't mind Mihm, if he could stay healthy, but as for Malik Rose, he's completely done, and he's way too undersized to play against the bigs of the Western conference.

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    I'm inclined to agree with ex, but perhaps, just perhaps, Holt Cat realizes that the window is closing and it's now or never.
    early playoff exit = less cash
    holt greedy so he sees lux tax < lost playoff revenue without trade

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    The Spurs were short of big men before the trade and are still short of big men.

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    I wouldn't mind Mihm, if he could stay healthy, but as for Malik Rose, he's completely done, and he's way too undersized to play against the bigs of the Western conference.
    The main point wasn't going after Malik Rose. The point was we can add pieces for the minimum and make a trade for a big man without trading one of the big 3. I was using Malik and Mihm as examples.

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    The Spurs were short of big men before the trade and are still short of big men.
    Agreed

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