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Leon Powe or Drew Gooden is the answer.
We all heard it from Pop today, that we could focus our MLE this summer looking for a "4". I think the kind of player that Pop is looking for is a mobile, skilled big man rather than someone who clog the lane and block shots.
here's a few candidates that fits that role:
Z. Pachulia
G. Davis
A. Varejao
A. McDyess
R. Wallace
H. Warrick
C. Villanueva
C. Wilcox
M. Gortat
D. Gooden
These player pretty much fits what we are looking for in a "4" and seems to be around the MLE price.
My personal opinion is that M. Gortat and Z. Pachulia is overpaid if it means for the MLE. These two are more of the traditional big man in that they are more of a banger but not very skilled.
A. Varejao and C. Villanueva are probably going to be very difficult to grab away from their team since both are RFA and could command maybe even more than MLE.
I do feel that R. Wallace and A. McDyess fits everything we are looking for in a "4" but the problem is that we'd be taking a risk since they are both 34 and would turn 35 when playoff comes around. Both are mobile for big man, both can step out and hit the J, both could rebound, and both are good defender. But the thing that worries me is that both been looking like they been loosing a step or two the last several year.
If we want to sign a player that we could count on for both now and future, i think we should look into maybe a H. Warrick, C. Wilcox, or lastly G. Davis. I really like H. Warricks game in which is very mobile, athletic, and good shot blocker, but he might be a bit skinny to guard the bigger PF in this league. C. Wilcox is also a very talented big man with plenty of athleticism but low basketball IQ "more athletic but less skilled version of D. Gooden". G. Davis is a very big guy who shone in last year's playoff. He is a pretty good banger, and mid range shooter, but i do worry about his mobility and also there's some doubt in my mind that last year's playoff may be a fluke.
I do believe that whoever we sign for the MLE all have a gamble in there own ways. A. McDyess and R. Wallace are the perfect 4 for our team, but will turn 35 come playoff time. H. Warrick and C. Wilcox are talented and young players but with obvious flaws to there games. And our own D. Gooden, if he could only pop could talk some bball iq in him, he'd be the perfect big for this offseason.
Leon Powe or Drew Gooden is the answer.
Although good, Powe maybe a bit undersized. We need some 7 footers.
why cant we get a mobile skilled big man AND someone that can clog the lane and block shots?
i'd like to stick with gooden now, and give mahinmi and gist PT
i like drew but you cant teach an old dog new tricks. hes a good post up player but honestly he cant pass for and his defense is average at best.
this team has enough offense which makes gooden's skillset expendable. my hope is that splitter comes over but looks like we are gonna target either mcdyess or sheed.
i think mcdyess is a spurs guy, character wise but sheeds length and overall better talent would suit us better against teams like the lakers.
so.....bring in the headcase and heres to hoping that we are wearing 2010 championship belts next year!
I'm not that keen on bringing in a potential headcase like Wallace, who has fallen in love with the 3 point shot in recent years. We already got a 3pt shooting big man in Bonner and a whole slew of 3 pt specialists. The newest acquisition (Jefferson) also shoots well from downtown. Trust me, we absolutely do not need Wallace and his 3 pt shooting. Even if we didn't have Bonner I would say NO to Wallace.
Otoh, McDyess would be a MUCH better bet by far, this guy can really play some strong low post defense, even at 34. Wallace can play some defense too, but not as good as McDyess, and only when he feels like it.
Lets compare shooting, McDyess shot 51% last year compared to 41% for Rasheed. That's a big difference there. And McDyess will get ample opportunities to shoot mid range J's all game long in the spurs' system. The advantage of that is that still helps spread the floor some, but also keeps him closer to the basket to snag offensive rebounds. That's why McDyess averaged almost 3 offensive boards a game last year as opposed to 1 a game for Wallace.
Playoffs? Wallace was a complete no-show last year against the cavaliers, McDyess brought his A-game.
Looking at the total picture its a no-brainer IMO... McDyess wins hands down.
Drew Gooden if he's willing to play for 3 million would be a nice bench player, backing up McDyess.
The Celtics are NOT going to let Big Baby and Powe walk! I like the idea of a guy like Brandon Bass...he is 6-8, but young can move around, etc. All of this hinges on how good and healthy Ian is though. Warrick would be solid, but he is restricted.
McDyess is my pick, a quality player who is in the Kurt Thomas mold of no BS, no problems, team player.
I don't see the point in Warrick when Gist may come over. Their game's are essentially the same. They're both hybrid forwards who have the ability to play multiple positions, shoot the ball, and grab boards with their athletic ability.
IMHO the best available option is Gooden.
Except Warrick is a proven 12 and 5 guy in the league.
Gist is younger, just as athletic, can be aquired for less, and it's looking like Gist has more range on his jumpshot.
How about Chris Kaman?
Warrick, while a nice player, doesn't pass the pre-requisite test of "would I feel comfortable with him guarding Gasol"? We all know who we're trying to play catch-up with, so if he can't guard Gasol, he can't help us. Yes, I know Duncan can guard him, but the point of this exercise is to find someone else who can so that Tim doesn't have to.
Nice list, just wondering though:
Why would McDyess still be committed to staying in Detroit, after they dumped Billups to Dice's old team (the Nuggz) for a team cancer like Iverson and then got prompty swept out of the 1st round?
McDyess from all accounts I've heard is interested in obtaining a ring before he retires. Detroit is heading nowhere in the forseeable future.
What better place to go to get a ring than San Antonio? I think McDyess would be the perfect compliment to Duncan, and still young enough at 34 to bring it when it matters.
Agreed. There's no reason for McDyess to be feeling any obligation to Detroit, because now that Detroit is in a rebuilding mode the Pistons certainly aren't feeling any obligation to him.
He's not a free agent and his contract is kind of expensive...
I'm all aboard the McDyess bandwagon at this point.
Sign David Lee for the MLE. I don't think NY is going to match.
Pachulia, Ratliff, or Gortat for the LLE.
NY would match in a heartbeat.
Ratliff would be available for the LLE, not Pachulia or Gortat.
I think it will be Rasheed, he will get his 10 millions, not per year, but in two year
If that's the case, i'd rather have a line-up with geroge hill and TP, and manu comin' off the bench, there's only one ball and i enjoyed watchin hill play with tp, now with td, rasheed, and jefferson backin them up
comeo on. anything to see Rasheed and Duncan on the same team.
i don't like the idea of the Spurs having two starting big guys at 34+ by the time the playoffs start.
unless Ian turns out to be a viable option at the center postion, Rasheed would probably have to play a lot of minutes, which isn't good. UNLESS thomas comes back, or the Spurs can get Rasho for cheap to give the frontline more depth, the Spurs need someone who can give a lot them mins at the center position for a full season IMO. Birdman, Verajao, Pachulia all can play a lot of mins/ i say go for them.
I think Pachulia would be the best fit here.
The Spurs need a center who can run and rebound, not an elderly "4."
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