Shaq is a Cavalier

[ElNono]

you are not allowed to sign players over the cap. Thats the whole point in the cap. You can acquire players via trade, but you can't sign them. You can go over the cap to sign a player you already have like the Cavs can with Lebron, but you can't go over the cap to sign a player you don't have. He would need to be traded to your team in order to take on a contract that takes you over the cap.

I understand how the system works. And they can trade their entire roster if they wish, taking on bad contract of talented players in the process. But they won't do that unless they can get somebody like Bron.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

He should have demanded the Cavs 2011 first round pick. That could be a high lottery pick.

This is Steve Kerr we're talking about.

[ElNono]

yeah. For a one year solution you can't get better than Shaq. Shaq for a year then go after bosh

Sounds like Suns fans last year. It's like deja vu all over again.

[TheMACHINE]

And I'm saying their best record was overplayed, it was misleading as and was the product of a weak schedule. Look at their schedule on basketball reference if you don't believe me. If they were a contender, they shouldn't have even had 10 losses at the time of that trade given their weak schedule.

And in response to that Cleveland question, yes, Cleveland did suck against good teams this year, and last I checked they fell short of the finals.

So Cleveland is doing the same strategy as the Suns. "We're on top and fell short, but we suck against good teams, maybe Shaq can help us out". Who knows, maybe an older slower Shaq can do some good to the Cavs.

FUTURE IMPLOSION!

[Thunder Dan]

I understand how the system works. And they can trade their entire roster if they wish, taking on bad contract of talented players in the process. But they won't do that unless they can get somebody like Bron.

how is that any different, or better than what the Cavs can do?

[Allanon]

yeah. For a one year solution you can't get better than Shaq. Shaq for a year then go after bosh

Thanks for the answer, I was curious on what Cavs fans thought.

[TheMACHINE]

Sounds like Suns fans last year. It's like deja vu all over again.

its so simlar, its scary.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

So Cleveland is doing the same strategy as the Suns. "We're on top and fell short, but we suck against good teams, maybe Shaq can help us out". Who knows, maybe an older slower Shaq can do some good to the Cavs.

FUTURE IMPLOSION!

That's got nothing to do with what I was saying.

[ElNono]

how is that any different, or better than what the Cavs can do?

That the Cavs have Lebron right now and have not been doing that. Unless you think trading for Ben Wallace and his horrendous contract was a good move.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Sounds like Suns fans last year. It's like deja vu all over again.

If the Suns got Shaq for nothing and got to keep Marion, they would have won it all in all in 2008.

[stretch]

quit comparing cleveland to the suns you morons

two COMPLETELY different teams and styles

shaq fits in a half court style (which cleveland plays)

shaq doesnt fit in a :07 or less style (which phoenix plays)

[Allanon]

That the Cavs have Lebron right now and have not been doing that. Unless you think trading for Ben Wallace and his horrendous contract was a good move.

Yup, that was the other bandage trade I was referring to. Ferry's been trying to be like Pop and retool on the fly with bandages to fix holes.

However, Ferry's bandages have been terrible. Wally Szerbiak? Ben Wallace?

Shaq suckered the Suns and now he's suckered in the Cavs.

[Cry Havoc]

Yup, that was the other bandage trade I was referring to. Ferry's been trying to be like Pop and retool on the fly with bandages to fix holes.

However, Ferry's bandages have been terrible. Wally Szerbiak? Ben Wallace?

Do you think the trade for RJ was a bad one for the Spurs to make, too?

[ginobili's bald spot]

This needs to stop.

[Allanon]

Do you think the trade for RJ was a bad one for the Spurs to make, too?

no, that was a great trade...for the Spurs.

[ElNono]

If the Suns got Shaq for nothing and got to keep Marion, they would have won it all in all in 2008.

Not really. Marion and his fragile ego would have imploded when D'Antoni was fired and he would have had to post Shaq every other possession. Phoenix did good in moving Marion.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Not really. Marion and his fragile ego would have imploded when D'Antoni was fired and he would have had to post Shaq every other possession. Phoenix did good in moving Marion.

Fortunately D'antoni wasn't fired till after the 2008 season. Maybe they wouldn't have won it all but they get by the Spurs if they have Marion to help defend the pick and roll.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

This needs to stop.

What?

[ElNono]

Fortunately D'antoni wasn't fired till after the 2008 season. Maybe they wouldn't have won it all but they get by the Spurs if they have Marion to help defend the pick and roll.

Are you like some Mavs fans and their 'moral' 2006 championship? Just curious.

[TheMACHINE]

Wait a second...did ESPN just say that the Cavs got Shaq to stop the "Pick and Roll" of Orlando?

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Are you like some Mavs fans and their 'moral' 2006 championship? Just curious.

No not at all, that wasn't the point of my post. The point was you can't compare the two trades. The Suns traded one of their most important players for Shaq, Cleveland traded nothing.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Wait a second...did ESPN just say that the Cavs got Shaq to stop the "Pick and Roll" of Orlando?

I'll even laugh if they did.

[Allanon]

Wait a second...did ESPN just say that the Cavs got Shaq to stop the "Pick and Roll" of Orlando?

[Thunder Dan]

That the Cavs have Lebron right now and have not been doing that. Unless you think trading for Ben Wallace and his horrendous contract was a good move.

they have one of the highest payrolls in the league, well over the cap. Ben Wallace was taking on a bad contract like you said the Knicks would do. Try again, this is fun

[ginobili's bald spot]

What?

These ridiculous arguments about this being a bad trade for Cleveland. It's embarrassing. I call Spurs fans out when they rationalize and make insecure posts and that's exactly what lakerfan is doing in this thread. This is obviously a low risk high reward trade for the Cavs. There is nothing to debate.