Harvey: Cut Rate Again -- Trade Affects Ginobili

[vander]

When Thabeet gets picked 2 or 3rd who do the Spurs draft? I can see the mentoring a big man aspect to your thinking, but Thabeet has nowhere near the potential as Duncan.

Having Manu in the mix makes the Spurs a contender now, while Duncan is in his twilight and Parker in his prime.

You can't teach intangibles, his vision, passion, etc. Not to mention the chemistry he has developed with Tim and Tony for 3 Championship runs. Don't be so quick to downplay that relationship.

Trading him for player X, whether he be a young prospect or rising star, still will not give you what Manu will for the next 2/3 years, provided he is relatively healthy.

The Spurs know that the inevitable is approaching.

Dumping Manu is counterproductive to winning now. Why change a major component to your core??????

To develop a future player and get younger? Realistically you can't try rebuild and win now. It's a balancing act, trying to figure out when this group of guys is done. They aren't yet, and the Spurs FO has still managed to plant some seeds for the future, without sacrificing the present.

yeah, we'd have to wait and make sure Rubio goes 2nd, then try to move up from 5 to 3, and we'd only be losing Manu for a year, which could very well happen due to injury anyways, he'd come back in 10-11. so it'd be almost like stealing.

[MannyIsGod]

I diagree that Manu would be unwilling to start elsewhere. He strikes me as having a ton of pride, and I think he wouldn't mind a chance to show he's worth the money if someone else throws it at him.

[DAF86]

he signed a $52 million contract -- then quickly proved that wasn't enough. He led Argentina to the gold medal just weeks later, then became an All-Star while driving the Spurs to the 2005 le. The $6.6 million he earned that season is about $1 million less than what Malik Rose earned this past season.

That's just wrong.

[timvp]

That's just wrong.

Yeah, really wrong.

Especially when you consider Ginobili made $9.9 million this season

[urunobili]

That's just wrong.

Daffy where were you?

[SenorSpur]

Thabeet is going to be a freaking stiff.

He's samuel dalembert all over again..

or Yinka Dare

[EricB]

or Yinka Dare

I'm telling you this guy is set up for Sean Bradley esque fail.

He has horrible touch around the rim, his offensive game is very very raw and just robot like.

I would stay very far away from Thabeet.

[DAF86]

Daffy where were you?

Escaping from Lakers fans.















And studying

[urunobili]

Escaping from Lakers fans

THere's nothing lamer than a Laker fan in Argentina... have had some arguments with them... in uruguay there are several... I lost 25bucks on a bet on the Championship winner with a work colleague that we did at the beginning of the playoffs... i chose the choking Cavaliers...

[angelbelow]

good article

[DAF86]

THere's nothing lamer than a Laker fan in Argentina... have had some arguments with them... in uruguay there are several... I lost 25bucks on a bet on the Championship winner with a work colleague that we did at the beginning of the playoffs... i chose the choking Cavaliers...

Luckily I don't know any Lakers fan here in my town. I tried to stay away from NBA news ever since the finals ended, but I heard about the Jefferson trade on ESPN and I knew it was time to come back

[K-State Spur]

I still think we should have sent him to Washington for a year, then moved up from the 5 to get Thabeet. Big men are risky, but the reward is worth it, and developing under TD would also lessen the chance that he would bust.

just a thought

even if you love thabeet (and in terms of winning another championship before duncan retires, manu >>>>>>> thabeet) - there is no way that you make that trade before the #4 pick has been announced. this draft could get crazy and thabeet could still go as high as 2.

so even if you're HUGE on thabeet (and i'm definitely not), you don't trade manu until you know that you can get him. the return of a jordan hill just isn't anywhere near enough.

if somebody else is willing to do that deal with washington earlier (like minnesota), you tip your cap to them and say 'fair enough.'

[Mark in Austin]

Lucas Victoriano. And supposedly the Spurs picked Ginobili because Victoriano was a PG and Buford didn't think an international PG would survive under Pop.

I think now that the Spurs have abandoned the 2010 plan, giving Ginobili an extension this summer makes sense. Even considering his injury risk, it's best to lock him up now for a reasonable contract than play it out. Even if he gets hurt again, I wouldn't be willing to give up on him.

Something like a 2-year, $16-18 million extension now probably makes sense for both sides.

Agreed. The Spurs will be over the cap anyway. Might as well extend. If he gets injured and can't play that's what insurance is for. At this point, extending Manu has a pretty limited risk financially; and might be made up in goodwill generated from doing the extension now. 2yrs/$18M sounds about right.