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    yeah right. He didn't pay that family 22 million to keep the boy from testifying just because he was a nice guy.
    If someone ever molested my child, they wouldn't be able to buy me off. I'd want to make sure that POS was behind bars. They were after the money dude, and they happily took it.

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    Not necessarily. It would have come down to a jury deciding how much and as ed up as that family was the would not have been particularly sympathetic.

    They seem sympathetic enough to you and Wild Cobra.


    Taking the 25 million not to testify was the safe play.

    Allow your childs molester to walk free and do it to the other children is called, a "safe play"?


    Fact is, Jackson is pretty obviously had some hangups, I mean pretty obviously he wanted to stay a kid...and was stuck in childhood of sorts.

    There is nothing about the accusations that couldn't also be explained by that hangup...it's just as conceivable those kids spied in Jackson.


    And the reason we are debating this is because the family of those kids chose profit over justice. Their actions leave plenty of reason to doubt, no matter what the lynch mob might think.

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    Heres some more damaging evidence.

    Jurors in Michael Jackson's child sex trial were shown a pornographic magazine containing the fingerprints of both the pop star and his young accuser.
    Retired detective and fingerprint expert Robert Spinner yesterday told Santa Maria Court, California, he had also identified 15-year-old Gavin Arvizo's fingerprints on a different magazine and a sexually explicit calendar.
    His brother Star's prints were also found on one magazine.
    Jackson's defence team claims the singer and Arvizo never looked at such magazines together.
    It claims the material was marked when it was presented as grand jury evidence last year or when Jackson caught the boys looking at his private collection and snatched it from them.

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    If someone ever molested my child, they wouldn't be able to buy me off. I'd want to make sure that POS was behind bars. They were after the money dude, and they happily took it.
    Exactly...

    If someone " ed" my kid, I wouldn't even call the cops. I'd kill them. Plain and simple, they would be dead.

    Swear to god.

    And under no cir stances would I ever take any sort of money from the molester of my child. Especially if i was to let him walk free.

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    If someone ever molested my child, they wouldn't be able to buy me off. I'd want to make sure that POS was behind bars. They were after the money dude, and they happily took it.
    After the money? Michael went to them with the offer dip . When you are lower class or lower middle class and you are offered an ungodly amount of money and you can spare your child the trauma of having to testify in court on such an incident, you may consider taking the money and running as well.

    They did not blackmail Michael. As the evidence mounted up Michael and his defense team panicked and forwarded the offer to the family.

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    Whott, don't get me wrong. If it had been my kid that pedophile s bag would have been dead.

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    Heres some more damaging evidence.

    Jurors in Michael Jackson's child sex trial were shown a pornographic magazine containing the fingerprints of both the pop star and his young accuser.
    Retired detective and fingerprint expert Robert Spinner yesterday told Santa Maria Court, California, he had also identified 15-year-old Gavin Arvizo's fingerprints on a different magazine and a sexually explicit calendar.
    His brother Star's prints were also found on one magazine.
    Jackson's defence team claims the singer and Arvizo never looked at such magazines together.
    It claims the material was marked when it was presented as grand jury evidence last year or when Jackson caught the boys looking at his private collection and snatched it from them.
    Yeah when I was 10 or 12 me and my friends would also get into their dad's stash. What's your point? That's about the age when little boys start wanting to see boobies

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    After the money? Michael went to them with the offer dip . When you are lower class or lower middle class and you are offered an ungodly amount of money and you can spare your child the trauma of having to testify in court on such an incident, you may consider taking the money and running as well.

    They did not blackmail Michael. As the evidence mounted up Michael and his defense team panicked and forwarded the offer to the family.


    That's bull about your class status being justification for accepting the money.


    Under absolutely no cir stances is that ever acceptable. I don't care if you are ing homeless.


    Not only do you fail your kids, but you also fail society.




    You can't excuse these parents whoring their kids out then turn around and act like they are fine upstanding citizens whose movitations are beyond question. When they are obviously motivated by money, even by your own admission. Beyond question money was a factor in this, in the outcome, in eveyr part of it.



    If they are kind of people that would their kids out, they are also the kind of people that would lie about it in the first place. In fact whoring their kids out is worse than lying about it in the first place.

    Lying about it is simple greed, not lying about it and accepting the money makes them the pimp of their own children.


    Either way...there is AMPLE reason to doubt the ethics of the accusers, if only because they are beyond all doubt willing to be bought off, and their class status has nothing to do with it, and isn't an excuse.

    It's usally the rich people that care more about money than the poor, that's usually why the rich are rich and the poor are poor.

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    The more important fact is that they did not want their child to endure a trial in the midst of a media circus for child molestation. No parent on earth would want to see their child go through that. You are a lost cause and I truly hope you are never a parent because even if your child was getting ass raped by your next door neighbor right in front of you, you wouldn't have a clue. Total ing ignoramus.

    Michael had perhaps the best legal team in the world in his defense, and they were not confident they could get a not guilty verdict in that courtroom so they threw money at the family, you are quick to point the finger at the family for taking the money as if they have poor moral values and ethics. What about the fact that Michael threw the money at them as a bribe, or all of the mounting evidence that you have so quickly disregarded.

    You sir are truly a bag.

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    All the evidence is cir stantial...nothing that can't be exolaiuned by the fact that they basically ived at Jackson's house.

    Like I said...whatever doubts remain, and there are plenty, are entirely due to the actions of the parants of these kids.

    No matter what, money was a major factor for them.

    If they are telling the truth, money was enough of a factor to let their childs molester go free and do it to others.

    I hope that they are lying and are simply greedy people, because it speaks even worse of them if they aren't lying.

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    Let's bring politics into the death of a pop icon why don't we?

    Video: House holds moment of silence for Michael Jackson

    No, as far as I know, Neda and the victims of the Iran crackdown never got one of their own — but they did get a resolution of support, so never mind that comparison. What’s more irritating here, that the House would interrupt national business for this or that JJJ would have the stones to pay tribute to the “grace” and “mercy” of a guy who was accused of child molestation more than once and was known to pay $20+ million settlements in hush money to his accusers? Atheist bonus points to Junior for framing it as an “if there is a God” question, oblivious as he is to the implications for that subject if one believes Michael was “blessed” with a penchant for kiddie-fondling. Like Treacher says, it’s a good thing those cherubs have wings; they’re going to need them.

    As I write this, the websites of CNN, FNC, ABC, and NBC are still in full banner mode. The only outlet not smoking the Jacko cracko is CBS. Thank god it’s Friday. Click the image to watch.

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    Oh and if you need some MJ music for your day

    http://www.mjtunes.com/mjtunesradio.asx

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    Exactly...

    If someone " ed" my kid, I wouldn't even call the cops. I'd kill them. Plain and simple, they would be dead.

    Swear to god.

    And under no cir stances would I ever take any sort of money from the molester of my child. Especially if i was to let him walk free.
    So because you would act like a normal parent of any character would, you think the accusers parents feel the same?

    Youre projecting. The amount of s bag parents in this world only increases. Had it ever occured to you that these parents knew what Jacko was doing well before anything took place?

    I remember the interview. Jackson preyed on the weak, broke and sick (both medically and socially). These parents barely qualified as human beings. They knowingly pros uted their children to a pedophile. They knew the score, Jackson knew it, too.

    The only victims in the 15 years of this sick "sleeping" with children were the children. The parents were in it for a money grab. Before (paid travel and stay), during (vacations, travel, food, stay) and after (lawsuit).

    That doesnt absolve Jackson of . Not a damn thing. So what, whottt? Yes, the parents should be put in the ing firing line right next to Jackson, with that much I agree.

    But dont pretend that because you would kill a mother er who raped your kid (obviously), that this fact somehow has any bearing on what a parent who knowingly pros utes their children would do. Because the actions of the parents and Jackson tell you exactly what ed up pedophiles and the victims willful guardians do in the same situation that would drive you (and me) to 1st degree murder without hesitation.

    People are ed up the world around. This isnt exclusive. Jackson was a pedophile. He has a special place in waiting for him, I hope. If not, oh well, he's dead. At least there's one less pedo in the world.

    Because you have doubts about the parents motivation and actions as parents, doesnt mean Jackson didnt rape their kids. Sure, he paid for it, but having the consent from the parents doesnt change what he did (or their guilt). Kill em all, IMO.

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    The more important fact is that they did not want their child to endure a trial in the midst of a media circus for child molestation. [/quoter]

    What a stupid wad you are...


    You dense piece of , if that was their motivation, they wouldn't have even brought the accusations against him in the first place.


    You are too ing stupiud to see the contradictions in your own argument.

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    No parent on earth would want to see their child go through that. You are a lost cause and I truly hope you are never a parent because even if your child was getting ass raped by your next door neighbor right in front of you, you wouldn't have a clue. Total ing ignoramus.

    Yeah, and you're the type that would ing his kid out for 20 million bucks and let the molester go free to molest other children as long as got paid you worthless piece of .

    That's exactly what you ing are...how dare you judge me,.


    PS: I'm not the one brags about being friends with people that like to hang themselves by their ...FREAK.



    You're the type of person that would let a molester go free for 20 million, that's exactly what you are, that's why you are so defensive.


    Low class, low grade, cult of celebrity idolatry

    Piece
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    Why don't you occupy yourself with your David Carradine pictures and dropping names to people who give a , ing freak, and don't you ever
    presume to know what I would do in a certain situation.

    Because you are the ing celebrity idolizing freak...

    HEATH.

    Beyond all doubt, you are a name dropping got who would be honored to have his kids stay at a famous pedophiles house and get butt ed for 20 million...I mean after all, you'd get pictures to post on message boards and brag about how you knew him.

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    "He made Thriller, man. Thriller." - Dave Chappelle.

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    No one seems to remember that the family never initiated the very first investigation. It was an Los Angeles School District official who lodged a complaint with the Dcfs over general neglect of the kid by the mom. That was February 2003. They also mentioned they were concerned because of that do entary. The mom was questioned and the entire family insisted that no inappropriate contact with Jackson occurred; also, the mother said that the children were never left alone with Jackson. The case was closed; the charges marked as "unfounded." Afterwards, in November 2003, when there was outside interest in connection with charges against Jackson, a report was made. Sounds like she suddenly realized she could cash in with the first accuser.

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    for some reason, I always get a sense of enjoyment reading whotttttttt's posts.

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    I think there is no doubt that Jacko was a pedo. I still can't help but mourn his passing though. His music was incredible. I turned 21 when he was at his peak and of course I went to lots of discos/dance clubs. Michael Jackson songs were always the favorites for the dance crowds and you knew you were unlikely to get turned down when asking a chick to dance to a Jacko tune. Dude helped me get laid many times!

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    Ooh it looks like i hit a nerve. Re read your post? You are drinking the celebrity cool aid and defending a mutliple times accused pedophile, who always paid people when given the opportunity.

    You are blind, perhaps you were molested as a little boy maybe even by Michael? But he gave your family some hush money and you agreed to defend Michael by any means necessary.

    LOL WAD.


    And what does me knowing or name dropping David Carradines name have to do with you defending a pedophile? I must have struck some nerve. Lol.


    Epic fail.

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    No one seems to remember that the family never initiated the very first investigation. It was an Los Angeles School District official who lodged a complaint with the Dcfs over general neglect of the kid by the mom. That was February 2003. They also mentioned they were concerned because of that do entary. The mom was questioned and the entire family insisted that no inappropriate contact with Jackson occurred; also, the mother said that the children were never left alone with Jackson. The case was closed; the charges marked as "unfounded." Afterwards, in November 2003, when there was outside interest in connection with charges against Jackson, a report was made. Sounds like she suddenly realized she could cash in with the first accuser.

    In case you didnt know there were 3 or 4 instances of allegations, two were known to have been paid off, your example was not.

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    but but but it was all for money.

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    IMHO, there is NO doubt he was the KING of Pop and the greatest entertainer this world has ever seen.

    RIP.

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    Ooh it looks like i hit a nerve. Re read your post? You are drinking the celebrity cool aid and defending a mutliple times accused pedophile, who always paid people when given the opportunity.

    You are blind, perhaps you were molested as a little boy maybe even by Michael? But he gave your family some hush money and you agreed to defend Michael by any means necessary.

    LOL WAD.
    Weak

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    but but but it was all for money.
    IMHO, in today's world....it always is.

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    Yes he was the king of POP
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