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    Damn. That's his agent saying that he literally doesn't have the ligaments. I've been certain that was just a misunderstanding, and that he didn't have any visible ACL problems, after the surgery. ("No ACL" meaning "No ACL injury".) I didn't think it was possible to keep playing compe ively without either ACL, much less without both. His quads must be like iron, and even then I don't see how the knees can be stable enough to survive 82 games of NBA pounding. But then again, I don't see how he competed in college, either. It's supposed to be impossible on an ACL that has completely torn and not been surgically repaired. But to just not have any ACL's left? Damn.

    I assume the agent knows what he's saying. And if he does, it's not hard to understand why he fell so low in the draft. That's a lot more risk than I thought.
    I would have to assume that they tried to repair partially torn ACLs. As in try to s ch back the ligament. That doesn't work. Once you tear your ACLs it looks like crab meat in your knees lol. What they usually do is completely clean out the debris of the old ACL and make a replacement ligament out of a piece of your hamstring or another muscle in your leg. Essentially creating a whole new ACL. I had my ACLs repaired by Dr. Smitt also who is one of the Spurs Doctors. He did Sean Elliotts knees back in the day aswell.

    It really does boggle my mind that he has been playing without ACLs. I tried to play basketball and football after hurting my knees and it just took one hard cut or one quick juke and my knee would give out (very painful btw when the knee pops out of place). Like someone else was saying he must have some amazing support muscles or cartlidge around his knees.

    Worse comes to worst at some point in his basketball career he will lose part of a season or a summer and gets new ACLs. The dude is playing without ACLs lol wouldn't you think he would just play better with ACLs lol. My knees are much better then they originally were. Atleast strength wise they are much more tight and sturdy then they originally were.

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    Jim Rome is talking about the Spurs with his guests, and saying they are the true winners of the draft. Comparing them to the Patriots and how they can steal talent in the draft.

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    cool

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    watching around the horn on ESPN , they are talking about the big winners,

    Mariotti - says the Clippers were the winners

    Adande - Spurs, trade for jefferson and trade for Blair, he said "if you don't have ACLs, you can't tear ACL's" lol awesome, says he will he help the Spurs with rebounding a lot along with scoring from Jefferson

    Cowlishaw - mentioned Spurs for a second but mentioned Warriors, Clippers

    Blackistone - said the draft was overshadowed by all the trades that occurred prior to the draft.

    Adande and Mariotti got into an argument at the end over Adande's ACL comment, Adande countered with Hines Ward and his Superbowl MVP performance with the same condition.

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    If Hines Ward can do it, why the not?

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    Theres no way to really explain it I guess, hes just a freak of nature.
    Freak indeed.

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    now they are discussing Blair and the Spurs on PTI:

    saying they are surprised he fell to the 2nd round but says he is landing in a great spot with SA.

    saying how playing in the most physical conference in the nation and destroying Thabeet plus avg 15 boards a game

    they are discussing how he might not be able to get shots off at 6'6 6'7. Luckily for the spurs we don't need him to get off shots, we just need him to rebound with his long arms, play defense, and get his points through put backs off offensive rebounds

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    they are discussing how he might not be able to get shots off at 6'6 6'7. Luckily for the spurs we don't need him to get off shots, we just need him to rebound with his long arms, play defense, and get his points through put backs off offensive rebounds
    If he can develop a jumper, he can very well get his shots off in this system. I don't doubt him getting off shots in the post against other teams role playing bigs either. Maybe even against some starters.

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    If he can develop a jumper, he can very well get his shots off in this system. I don't doubt him getting off shots in the post against other teams role playing bigs either. Maybe even against some starters.
    Its about creating space and arching the shoot. It takes smarts to do it. Blair has lived in the paint, so I think he has been able to make the adjustment.

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    Its about creating space and arching the shoot. It takes smarts to do it. Blair has lived in the paint, so I think he has been able to make the adjustment.
    He got his shots easily over Thabeet.

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    Here's another very interesting take on Blair from HoopAnalyst.

    2. Dejuan Blair, Pittsburgh: If you look at the list of great sop re rebounders in the intro, you’ll notice that Blair is the only player other than Barkley to also top the important PF benchmarks of .570 FG pct, 20.0 P40 and 3.5 SB40. I like a player who does all the important things well. That’s pretty much what I base these projections on. It seems that it’s more important to do all the necessary things well enough than it is to be off the charts in one or two statistical categories while coming up weak in the others. For a PF prospect the important categories are 2 pt. FG pct, P40, R40 and SB40. Here are past NCAA PFs who, like Blair, topped .580 2 pt. pct, 20.0 P40, 12.0 R40 and 3.5 SB40:



    The group has everything. There’s a HOFer, all-stars, rotation regulars, journeymen and Cliff Rozier. Shelden Williams is still a career waiting to happen, but I suspect he’s on his way to at least journeyman status. Rozier is the only other player here who didn’t have a long NBA career, but this article suggests he probably wasn’t equipped for NBA success, despite having great talent. In general this is a pretty good group to be in with. There are a couple of things to point out here though. The first is the most successful players in this group all posted a FG pct. over .600. Blair is more comparable to the rotation regulars with his .593. The next is I could up the SB40 standard on this test to 4.0 and get rid of both Rozier, the only bust of the bunch, and Blair. So while it’s impressive that Blair is a part of this exclusive stat club, he definitely compares more closely with players at the lower end.

    Blair’s height has become an issue, but it doesn’t bother me much. He’s 6’7” in shoes with a wingspan of 7’2”. With his girth, that would seem to make him formidable enough. I’m a little more concerned about his weight. He seemed to be carrying a little too much of it during the season and this is something he’ll have to fix. Since he’s only 20, I don’t see this as a problem just yet. It could be a case of a young guy who let himself get a little heavy, because it didn’t affect his ability to dominate a game at the college level. I’ve read reports that he’s dropped as much as 15 lbs for the workouts and has become much quicker because of it. If this is true, it’s a very good sign.

    My feeling is that Blair will become a pretty solid NBA player. At the low end he’ll be a valuable reserve who has one of the best rebounding rates in the league. At the high end he’s a starter who’s always one of the league leaders in rebounding. I doubt he’ll ever be enough of a scorer to be an all-star, but he’s going to be an effective player.
    (I'm putting this here for ease of reference in the future )

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    Blair Falling to 37

    One of the more unfortunate parts of draft night was watching the free-fall of rebounding machine DeJuan Blair all the way to the #37 pick, much lower than anyone could have anticipated. The upside here is that Blair landed in a tremendous situation. The Spurs have a depleted frontcourt in terms of depth after the 3 for 1 trade for Richard Jefferson, and have an organization and team culture that will absolutely bring out the best in him. Blair is, at worst, the next Leon Powe, and at best could be a real (and extremely cheap) asset for the next few years.

    It was really surprising to see team after team picking in the late first round pass on Blair, and considering the risk/reward factor involved with a two-year guarantee contract, it’s tough not to think that a lot of them made a mistake.
    http://www.draftexpress.com/article/...ft-Night-3289/

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    If Scola can get his shot off around the basket Blair can. Both do it with guile and muscle and Blair has more muscle.

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    The only issue with him being a great offensive rebounder is that Pop will have to allow him to be one.

    Traditionally, the Spurs have eschewed crashing the offensive boards in favor of getting back on D at all costs. It's probable that Blair will have a hard time getting his own shots off, at least initially, so his productivity will in large part depend on Pop's willingness to give him the green light.

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    The only issue with him being a great offensive rebounder is that Pop will have to allow him to be one.

    Traditionally, the Spurs have eschewed crashing the offensive boards in favor of getting back on D at all costs. It's probable that Blair will have a hard time getting his own shots off, at least initially, so his productivity will in large part depend on Pop's willingness to give him the green light.
    Good point. Pop has to let Blair crash the offensive boards. That's by far his most intriguing asset.

    The good news is that Pop has let some players in the past crash the offensive glass (namely Nazr) and that the addition of Jefferson should really help the team's transition defense ... so it won't be always necessary for five players sprinting back.

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    Prospect rankings
    by Bradford Doolittle
    http://www.basketballprospectus.com/unfiltered/?p=272

    I have a piece going up later that will explain more of what you see here, but I wanted to post the results of my prospect rating system.

    As for what these categories mean: ATH–a projection of a player’s applied athletic ability. The average score is about 15.0 for this group. oRTG–is offensive rating projected for the NBA level, which can also be defined as points created per 100 possessions. USG–is the players projected NBA usage rate. DEF–is the player’s defensive factor rating, with 1.00 being average and the bigger the number, the better. RTG–is the end rating generated by of all this. I wish it stood for something real, like wins or points, but right now, it’s just a rating. Average is 83.2 for these guys.

    As a side note, don’t get too worked up about Ricky Rubio’s ratings here. They are based on a very small sample of data.






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    Got damn, Blair is way out in front on this made up stat.

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    The good news is that Pop has let some players in the past crash the offensive glass (namely Nazr)
    Malik, too.

    I think he also gave Finley the green light, we just couldn't tell.

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    Spurs just haven't had that many good offensive rebounders over the years. DRob, Nazr, and maybe Gooden and his figurative cup of coffee here?

    Release the hounds!!!

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    The only issue with him being a great offensive rebounder is that Pop will have to allow him to be one.

    Traditionally, the Spurs have eschewed crashing the offensive boards in favor of getting back on D at all costs. It's probable that Blair will have a hard time getting his own shots off, at least initially, so his productivity will in large part depend on Pop's willingness to give him the green light.
    Great offensive rebounders are a great defensive weapon. Teams have to be more concious of and commit more to their defensive rebounding slowing down their transition game. Blair's offensive rebounding will likley be a defensive advantage against up tempo teams.

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    Malik, too.

    I think he also gave Finley the green light, we just couldn't tell.

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    If the Spurs really do plan to play Blair 20 minutes per game like Buford said, it'd be great if Blair can average something like six points and six rebounds.

    That's especially true if the Spurs can land a starting bigman with the MLE.

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    With the 36th pick in the 2009 NBA draft, the Memphis Grizzlies select Sam Young from the University of Pittsburgh

    (12 seconds later...)

    With the 37th pick in the 2009 NBA draft, the San Antonio Spurs select DeJuan Blair from the University of Pittsburgh.
    I missed the Draft because of work but do you have video of this??? I can't find the on youtube.....

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    If the Spurs really do plan to play Blair 20 minutes per game like Buford said, it'd be great if Blair can average something like six points and six rebounds.

    That's especially true if the Spurs can land a starting bigman with the MLE.
    dude thats fkn stats like rasho, malik, nazr were avg while they were here....still better then nothing...

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