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He's under contract for next year.
The only bigs we have are Timmy, Matty and Ian(ny).
Rasheed is old and has blown his cool in big games too many times to count. No thanks. Spend it on Goatrat or whatever the his name is.
He's under contract for next year.
The only bigs we have are Timmy, Matty and Ian(ny).
I guess what we're not getting from you is an alternative to Sheed. If not Sheed, then who out there fits your description (besides Gortat)? We need a vet, not another unknown (Ian, DeJuan, random dude with 1-2 years, etc)
Enigma only in at ude, not is his game. There really isn't an argument to how well he has played. If you're talking about his last 3 playoff experiences, he has 2 ECF's and 1 first round exit.In his prime, I always thought Sheed could have been one of the best PF's in the league. However, he has been an enigma. And the fact...that he has gotten out-of-control with his behavior in Detroit's last two or three playoff series.....just worries me.
If you take the at ude out of the equation, you have here a game changing player on BOTH sides of the ball, who understands a TEAM philosophy, grew up in and played in respected systems that Pop loves(UNC and Larry Brown) and has shown that he is willing to push the envelope to inspire his team. I love the Low-key Spurs but sometimes, you have to be willing to body-check someone to let them know that you're here to play HARD.
I seem to remember Rasheed & Tim joking around when they play each other. They seem to be friendly.
MarHill, I think you just convinced me on Gortat. What are our chances?I must admit I'm still ambivalent about Rasheed coming to the Spurs. I know they are a lot of supporters in this forum for him coming to SA. I can see why.
In his prime, I always thought Sheed could have been one of the best PF's in the league. However, he has been an enigma. And the fact...that he has gotten out-of-control with his behavior in Detroit's last two or three playoff series.....just worries me.
I know that if he comes to the Spurs....Pop and TD will be able to mitigate his act somewhat. But he's 35 and set in his ways.
I prefer the Spurs go after Gortat instead. He's 6'11, a good defender, and can block shots. He played good defense in ECF vs the Cavs and block a few of Lebron's shots as he drove to the lane. Also, he was decent against Bynum in the Finals.
I believe that is someone that Spurs need more than Rasheed. I know I'm in the minority with this.....but getting a big that can protect the rim is more important to me than getting a talented engima who is a little beyond his prime.
Hmmmm....maybe my buddy SenorSpur could convince me why the Spurs should take Sheed!!
I will say this about Sheed - much like Shaq, when he's properly motivated, he can be a difference-maker. With his chummy relationship with Tim and the respect he has for Pop, I wouldn't worry much about his loose temper.
Speaking of his temper, it overshadows one of the most underrated things about Sheed - his basketball intelligence. This guy is one smart player.
Example #1:
One of his previous coaches, Jim Lyman, commented once before how he believed Sheed would make an excellent coach someday. Why? Because it was common place, in practice, for Sheed to know not only where he was supposed to be at all times, but he also knew where all 4 of his teammates were supposed to be on every play.
Example #2:
Zach Randolph credits Sheed to this day for making him into an NBA player. Wonder why Randolph is a walking double-double? Because Sheed "kicked his ass" every day in practice and after practice. When Randolph was exhausted after practice, it was commonplace for Sheed to grab him and say, "No rookie, you're not done yet." Sheed would force him into one-on-one games, literally everyday after practice. During which time, he'd show Randolph the art of rebounding, timing, positioning, how to score in the low post, etc. It was during those sessions, where Randolph learned those tricks of the NBA trade and soon his game began to take off.
You have to admit that that is the kind of unselfish, willing, mentor you'd like to have on the roster for young players like Ian, Blair, Gist and others. For what it's worth, he's done some dumb things back in his younger JailBlazer days. Yet, every Blazer and Pistons player that ever played with Sheed absolutely loves the guy. Just ask Ben Wallace and Chauncey Billups.
All that said, now that the Spurs have a true low-post replacement for KT, in Blair, Sheed makes a lot of sense now. He can spread the floor for TD on offense, and he's still one of the better low-post defenders in the NBA - even at his advance age. A 2-yr deal, at a reasonable price, is very doable.
BTW, I don't favor Sheed over Gortat because he makes a lot of sense too. I just wouldn't be mad if Sheed was the choice. Plus, I can see Pop and RC holding Sheed's experience in very high esteem. I can't see Pop going with TD and 3 inexperienced bigs.
Last edited by SenorSpur; 06-27-2009 at 01:32 PM.
ESPN has speculated that 'Sheed will end up in Orlando... any thoughts?
a threat? i'd say a lock to win the 2010 le.
I think they just dread the idea of this stacked Spurs team also adding Sheed. They hate the thought of another Spurs finals appearance and are hoping against hope that it doesnt happen.
Where have you seen this? I havent seen this anywhere.
Yeah, I haven't seen this either. Was this today?
Sheed would take away our SOFT label...
Sheed is a good defender and would do a nice job against Gasol, Dirk, etc. Plus he could hit 3's.
I heard it on espn radio this morning.
Gortat, Bonner can not cover Dirk and Bowen is gone.
The magic are expected to make offers next week to Wallace and Bass.
http://hoopshype.com/
Gortat Playoff Stats
PPG 3.3
RPG 3.2
APG 0.1
We could have kept Fab and/or K. Thomas for these types of numbers... NO THANKS!! We deserve better.
Of course, everyone will make a run at Sheed, he is a proven player. RC, POP work your magic.
Yes, but Gortat was playing behind Dwight Howard, who probably played close to 40 minutes a game. How many minutes did it take Gortat to get those numbers? All I know is that he looked pretty good in the limited amount of time I saw him on the court. That said, I would like to see Rasheed here. It is a risk, but I think Pop and Tim, plus the chance to win another le or two will keep him (mostly) in check.
12 min per game.
Fab
PPG 6.0
RPG 2.0
APG 0.0
K.Thomas
PPG 2.6
RPG 4.6
APG 0.4
I think we want a STARTER not another bench guy. Bonner needs to come off the bench, that is when he is effective.
Why would the Magic be any less likely than the Spurs to make a 5M+ offer to Sheed?
its pretty much just going to come down to Sheed's decision.
both teams are going to offer the same amount of money and a promise of contending for the championship.
i just think the spurs have too many incentives in their favor that might sway Sheed.
If Sheed really is close to Duncan and he has been sighted in SA, then i'm confident he could be signed, but i'll wait until Wednesday to get excited.
Undoubtedly Sheed will visit SA and Orlando, maybe other cities as well, and let the teams make their case before deciding.
ESPN is hoping Sheed signs with the Magic...they do not want the SPURS to de-throne their precious Lakers... boo whooo
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