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    Stuart Scott sounded so sad when Vitale said he thinks the Spurs will be in the Finals..I'm not playing btw, he actually sounded sad..I can't imagine their reactions if we add Wallace to the mix..

    I'm hoping for a San Antonio vs. Orlando or Boston Finals..I can't even imagine how hyped a Lebron/Shaq vs. Kobe Finals would be..

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    I can't even imagine how hyped a Lebron/Shaq vs. Kobe Finals would be..
    ugh, I bet the hype starts during the pre-season...

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    One of my wife's best friends works for ESPN the Magazine. She's a good girl, but I fight the urge to tell her straight out how much her company sucks for sports.

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    ^^Stop fighting it...

    YOU CAN DO IT!

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    I think San Antonio needs him the most, but it's his decision and it will boil down to money. If the Magic can sign him that would be a good signing for them, but the Spurs really need a big like Sheed.

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    MarHill, I think you just convinced me on Gortat. What are our chances?

    I will say this about Sheed - much like Shaq, when he's properly motivated, he can be a difference-maker. With his chummy relationship with Tim and the respect he has for Pop, I wouldn't worry much about his loose temper.

    Speaking of his temper, it overshadows one of the most underrated things about Sheed - his basketball intelligence. This guy is one smart player.

    Example #1:
    One of his previous coaches, Jim Lyman, commented once before how he believed Sheed would make an excellent coach someday. Why? Because it was common place, in practice, for Sheed to know not only where he was supposed to be at all times, but he also knew where all 4 of his teammates were supposed to be on every play.

    Example #2:
    Zach Randolph credits Sheed to this day for making him into an NBA player. Wonder why Randolph is a walking double-double? Because Sheed "kicked his ass" every day in practice and after practice. When Randolph was exhausted after practice, it was commonplace for Sheed to grab him and say, "No rookie, you're not done yet." Sheed would force him into one-on-one games, literally everyday after practice. During which time, he'd show Randolph the art of rebounding, timing, positioning, how to score in the low post, etc. It was during those sessions, where Randolph learned those tricks of the NBA trade and soon his game began to take off.

    You have to admit that that is the kind of unselfish, willing, mentor you'd like to have on the roster for young players like Ian, Blair, Gist and others. For what it's worth, he's done some dumb things back in his younger JailBlazer days. Yet, every Blazer and Pistons player that ever played with Sheed absolutely loves the guy. Just ask Ben Wallace and Chauncey Billups.

    All that said, now that the Spurs have a true low-post replacement for KT, in Blair, Sheed makes a lot of sense now. He can spread the floor for TD on offense, and he's still one of the better low-post defenders in the NBA - even at his advance age. A 2-yr deal, at a reasonable price, is very doable.

    BTW, I don't favor Sheed over Gortat because he makes a lot of sense too. I just wouldn't be mad if Sheed was the choice. Plus, I can see Pop and RC holding Sheed's experience in very high esteem. I can't see Pop going with TD and 3 inexperienced bigs.
    SenorSpur,

    Those were very good examples about Rasheed being a good teammate. I have heard that he has been an excellent teammate with Detroit and Portland.

    I knew you would give me some good examples to convince me about Rasheed.

    I just don't want him to lose it emotionally in the playoffs...for example in a game in vs. the Lakers in the WCF.

    He needs to be focused and all in for the Spurs to win a championship.

    If Lamar Odom could do this past year....Sheed can too! He's still an enigma...though!!

    Also, I just like Gortat's ability to protect the rim more than Sheed at this point in his career. I don't think there is another big in FA like that.

    So if the Spurs get one of these two......they will be okay.

    SenorSpur...I'm still trying to convince myself about Rasheed. LOL!!


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    If Gortat was so great, the Magic would have won more games in the Finals. Give me Sheed at ude and all. We do not always have to be the choir boys of the NBA to win it all.

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    I don't know if Wallace will go to Orlando. Wallace style is completely different than Hedo. If he sign there Orlando will change the way they played in the last 2 seasons

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    One of my wife's best friends works for ESPN the Magazine. She's a good girl, but I fight the urge to tell her straight out how much her company sucks for sports.
    Make a list and show her your complaints. Who knows, maybe she shows them to the higher-ups and some of them are corrected. Maybe no one has pointed out their flaws to them.

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    ugh, I bet the hype starts during the pre-season...
    ..it started as soon as rumors of Shaq to Cleveland started

    http://www.post-trib.com/sports/1623...t-0616.article

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    Make a list and show her your complaints. Who knows, maybe she shows them to the higher-ups and some of them are corrected. Maybe no one has pointed out their flaws to them.
    Man, it'd be a full-time job to chronicle how bad ESPN is.

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    If Gortat was so great, the Magic would have won more games in the Finals. Give me Sheed at ude and all. We do not always have to be the choir boys of the NBA to win it all.
    It has nothing to do with being the choir boys of the NBA.

    Gortat was a backup and he showed he could defend and protect the rim. That's we the Spurs need behind Timmy.

    The closest person they have had like that since Robinson left was Rasho. And they won a le with him in '05.

    The Spurs' big needs to fill that need and Gortat has shown in a backup role...he can do that.

    I like Sheed and he's very talented even at this late stage of his career. I'm still a little worry because of his enigmatic personality.

    But if he's focused.....then the Spurs will have a strong shot to win it all.

    Gortat does fill a need too!!

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    One of my wife's best friends works for ESPN the Magazine. She's a good girl, but I fight the urge to tell her straight out how much her company sucks for sports.
    Is she hot?

    Is she also a "bad" girl?

    Do you fight other urges around her?

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    AOL FAN HOUSE --Where is Rasheed? Are the Spurs still in the mix? Nothing about the Spurs----

    Link-----
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    Magic to Pursue Rasheed Wallace and Brandon Bass


    Posted Jun 26, 2009 7:10PM By Tim Povtak

    Now that they have landed All-Star Vince Carter and all but said goodbye to Hedo Turkoglu, the Orlando Magic will try to rebuild their supporting cast by targeting a pair of vastly different free-agent frontcourt players.

    After losing to the Lakers and their big front line in the NBA Finals, the Magic are expected to make offers next week in free agency to both veteran Rasheed Wallace of Detroit and young Brandon Bass of Dallas, according to two NBA sources.

    Wallace, 34, is expected to be pursued by both the Magic and the Boston Celtics, who are competing with the Cleveland Cavaliers for the top spot in the Eastern Conference. Wallace has played 14 seasons in the NBA, earning a reputation as an often enigmatic, but unselfish player with championship experience.

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    AOL FAN HOUSE --Where is Rasheed? Are the Spurs still in the mix? Nothing about the Spurs----

    Link-----http://nba.fanhouse.com/2009/06/26/m...-brandon-bass/

    Magic to Pursue Rasheed Wallace and Brandon Bass

    Posted Jun 26, 2009 7:10PM By Tim Povtak

    Now that they have landed All-Star Vince Carter and all but said goodbye to Hedo Turkoglu, the Orlando Magic will try to rebuild their supporting cast by targeting a pair of vastly different free-agent frontcourt players.

    After losing to the Lakers and their big front line in the NBA Finals, the Magic are expected to make offers next week in free agency to both veteran Rasheed Wallace of Detroit and young Brandon Bass of Dallas, according to two NBA sources.

    Wallace, 34, is expected to be pursued by both the Magic and the Boston Celtics, who are competing with the Cleveland Cavaliers for the top spot in the Eastern Conference. Wallace has played 14 seasons in the NBA, earning a reputation as an often enigmatic, but unselfish player with championship experience.
    Screw Orlando, let's snatch sheed in a heart beat

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    AOL FAN HOUSE --Where is Rasheed? Are the Spurs still in the mix? Nothing about the Spurs----
    The Fan House piece is linked in Alexander's article in the first post. Alexander says that Rasheed "appears to be a player in demand by some of the powers in the East," he links Orlando and Boston. I think the Spurs are in the mix if they want to be, they just don't go public about this stuff.

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    maybe i am a little biased, but i think Bass is actually a better fit in Orlando than sheed.

    hes gonna be a lot harder to sign.

    But Bass likes to run and would fit their uptempo style well but I guess the Magic like Sheed's 3 pt shooting as well.

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    its pretty much just going to come down to Sheed's decision.

    both teams are going to offer the same amount of money and a promise of contending for the championship.

    i just think the spurs have too many incentives in their favor that might sway Sheed.
    And what are those incentives? The Magic are also
    loaded with talent and made it to the finals this year.

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    And what are those incentives? The Magic are also
    loaded with talent and made it to the finals this year.
    Hall of Fame Coach
    Hall of Fame Player
    Championship Pedigree
    A chance to stick it to the lakers
    Style of Play more suited to his game


    (Dwight is not a HOF player just yet)

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    And what are those incentives? The Magic are also
    loaded with talent and made it to the finals this year.
    I agree. Magic got past that Cavs team with little trouble, tore through them.

    Shaq helps, but one year from now he'll be like 38 yrs old and aging fast. Howard... one year even closer to hitting his prime. Shaq will put up a better fight than Carrott-Top and IllGotSick, but Howard still has the advantage there.

    And they added VC to boot?

    Wallace will think long and hard about playing next to a beast like Howard and not have to guard those big guys and watch VC drop 20+ a night.

    A trip to the Finals might look easier to him in the East. The West is pretty deep and he'd be asked to guard and bang with those bigs (Lakers, Denver, Houston, Portland just to name a few). The East might be a two horse race with the Magic whipping that other horse already this year.

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    I think the Magic will regret not signing Hedo

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    I think the Magic will regret not signing Hedo
    Where will Hedo end up???

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    I agree. Magic got past that Cavs team with little trouble, tore through them.

    Your forgetting that Hedo is opting out and not resigning. I think that without Hedo, the Orlando Magic will not see the Eastern Conf Finals next season. He does so much for them. He was their go to guy for sure. Now I know you are going to say "well they just signed VC." But I just see the signing of VC bringing chemistry issues to their team. I don't know why, but I feel that he will.

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    Where will Hedo end up???
    Early favorites would be Portland and Detroit. The only other teams that can offer more than the MLE are OKC, Memphis and Sacramento. Toronto and Atlanta may be able to as well depending on what they do with their own FAs.

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    On Ticket 760 tonight the two hosts were saying the word is Sheed really wants to play with Orlando this coming season. They also said the Spurs had the best week of all the NBA teams this past week and the Spurs were the class of the NBA. Not knowing what Orlando's salary situation is Sheed's wish (if true) may not happen. Then again based on the call-in yesterday on the Chris and Jason Show on ESPN 1250 Sheed may be playing coy with the media. Weds. is July 1st so we may know something real soon. Not sure if Sheed is ready to sign with anyone for just the MLE but, for a real chance at another ring he may be willing to roll the dice for a season or two. His chances are much better with the Spurs than with Orlando.

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