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Mason was playing out of his mind before he got moved to backup point, if Pop leaves him at the 2 and let's him shoot the ball then i'm not worried.
I think the arrive of Jefferson will help Mason Jr a lot.
Last season he needed to be the 3rd scorer and during some games he was the 1st option, when TD and TP were on the bench.
Now he'll only have to do what he knows to do very well: shot the ball.
We won't need him to slash to the basket, be a backup PG or guard the other team best perimeter player.
He'll score less but I think he'll be more effective
Mason was playing out of his mind before he got moved to backup point, if Pop leaves him at the 2 and let's him shoot the ball then i'm not worried.
Yeah, I agree. Mason is in his prime right now, completely familiar with the system, and if defenders have to worry about RJ and Mason doesn't have to worry about being the PG, it should all add up to greater comfort and freedom for him, and most importantly to more wide open looks.
Agree with this. Mason is a spot player and has trouble outside of a certain zone or level. He's a rotation guy called to do too much last year.
Oh, and I don't want him traded.
Mason is a solid player..he isn't just a spot-up shooter..he can effectively shoot off the dribble as well..
the problem with Mase last year was that he was put into horrible situations following Manu's season-ending injury..he was put in positions where he was the backup PG, where he was forced to penetrate and pass, 2 horrible aspects of his game..
he was also playing average defense before he had to put in so much energy at the PG position, sometimes even above average..his defense took a huge hit when he was placed at PG..
he'll get more open shots this year, which can only make him better..
Mason should be more efficient if he stays. He will be put in the Michael Finley role. Mainly spot up shooting due to RJ, Manu, Tony, Tim sucking the defense inside.
Although, for the right scenario and price I'd trade him:
i.e - if Sheed chooses to go to Orlando and Finley opts to remain a Spur, I'd then turn my focus on Marcus Camby and package Mason/ Bonner+ Marcus Williams contract for Camby. Then I'd use some of the MLE to go after a wing to compete for minutes with Bowen or Finley (or both), such as Dahntay Jones, Rashad McCants, Matt Barnes, Rodney Carney.
Another would be if Rasheed did sign with San Antonio and if Blair/ Gist and Mahimni( or two of those three) performed above and beyond their expectations during summer league/training camp/ preseason. If that would be the case that would make Bonner expendable ( depending on the resigning on Oberto/ Kurt Thomas if they get bought out too). If Bonner does become expendable, I'd test the trade waters by offering Mason and Bonner for an improvement at the third wing position behind Manu and RJ. Players that I think on the top of my head are Stephen Jackson and Raja Bell.
Those are just thoughts on the only scenarios where I'd consider trading Mason.
Last edited by MaNu4Tres; 06-27-2009 at 08:07 PM.
Mason is a great 3 point shooter; if you have him outside the line that will keep a defender out there guarding him, and open up the paint even more since they can't cheat off of him much. Though he may start, he's our backup 2 guard -who would you want replacing him if he were shipped out? I'd rather maintain quality depth.
Assuming everyone is healthy, it will be awesome to see what 5 great and really good players can do together on the court at the same time as opposed to 2 or 3 great players and scrubs.
Mason = 03 Bowen offensively.
Leave the primary scoring to the core, park yourself at the 3, let them find you, and let 'em fly.
Finally some love for Mason. I believe we really need his shooting. Great thread
Barring any kind of trade that we just cannot pass up, I expect RMJ to be starting 2 guard on opening day. As the OP stated, he will have much less pressure on him with RJ along side him. He will be able to concentrate on the things he does well...coming off screens for jumpers and hitting open 3's.
If McClinton lives up to the hype, then Mason becomes just a tad more expendable. But Mason is a proven shooter and Mc Clinton still must prove himself.. on the pkus side, Jack is probably a better defender than Roger. Still, I don't see Mason going anywhere unless its part of a really good trade.
I would love to see a Lakers/Spurs WCF next season...that would be one heavyweight battle for the ages.
Please oh please no more pg experiments, let him do what he does best shoot 3's!
Mason needs to hit the weight room and freakin learn how to finish at the rim. I don't know how many times last year his shot got rejected when he tried to go to the whole.
This should be an excellent year for Roger. No more taking him out of his element with the PG experiment. He will be much more comfortable with the Spurs system and he like Manu won't have an ego problem coming off the bench. This is shaping up to be a great season for the Spurs. Now I'm actually glad we got knocked out of the playoffs the way we did. It is obvious that Peter Holt doesn't like losing and as a result has given Pop & R.C. the green light to do what it takes to win #5. Once we get a legit 6'11" - 7'2" center who can defend, rebound and block shots it'll just be a matter of the first part of the season getting the chemistry right so we can go for the Championship.
I see no reason why Mason wouldn't be the starting 2. The pressure will be off him and he just needs to find the spots where Duncan, Parker, or Jefferson can find him for the open shot.
MLE, Duncan, Jefferson, Mason, Parker is a pretty sick lineup.
Blair, Bonner/Mahinmi, Finley, Ginobli, Hill as the 2nd unit isn't too bad either.
Mason being more effective has nothing to do with the arrival of RJ.
It comes down to stop playing him as a backup PG.
Right, Pop ?
Actually in the NBA starting is not all it is made out to be. After the first few minutes coaches start subs uting. So whether Mason starts or not, he should see lots of playing time. I have a feeling Pop is going to go real slow with Manu the first part of the season and Jefferson and Mason will get several more minutes per game and then get the rotation down come the All Star break.
Also a lot will depend on how well Mason is playing 'D'. I think Pop wants to see more of that from Mason this coming season.
mason will get his shots from the extra pass
dude is a spot up shooter, what we dont need is him playing like last season with a huge role, thats not his ideal type of game and it really affects our team cause his a poor handler....
Hmm I like the Stephen Jackson trade. You think the Warriors would be interested in salary dumping Sjax?
That trade actually works - Bonner and Mason Jr. for Sjax. I wonder if the Warriors would be interested in freeing up some more cash for next off season and if they also want to pay an older Sjax for 5 more seasons?
Jackson wouldn't fit here at all anymore..he needs shots..he would have been a pretty good option without RJ, but now that Jefferson is here, Jackson is pointless..Mason is a better shooter with less of an ego, so he's a better role player..
I think he will play real well next year considering its a contract year. Look at the lakers had a bunch of players what I call "contract es" guys who never played big until they were playing for money. Last year Mase was very good up until he was forced to play PG and you can bet he will be motivated to play better next year so he can get some money.
what roger mason jr. needs to do is become a defensive player and have some f****** pride in it as opposed to being "the guy that shoots 3s"
in san antonio, defense comes first. get outta here bonner
I echo many of your guys' statements. Mason just sinks shots, especialy 3's and pull up j's. I think he can thrive when he's not forced into the PG position.
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