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    Thanks for being such great ass kissers
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    My point proven. You're making up your own diagnosis.

    The article regarding Blair's NO ACL's and why he has no ACL's in the Spurs forum is correct. His tissue was reabsorbed and he has no ACL's. This is not unusual or impossible. This, in fact, happens. It's apparent you'd rather make up what you believe makes sense rather than comprehend the actual explanation. You're comment in bold above about the MRI is truly laughable.
    Please explain how his tissue was reabsorbed into his body. I've looked all over medical websites for an explanation and other posters have said they've spoken to friends and family members who are doctors and the explanation doesn't make sense. So, without being a condescending prick who gets annoyed because other people are curious, please explain it.

    Remember, you are one of the posters who spread the Hines Ward/Sean Elliott "don't have ACLs" myth originally and that has already been totally shot down as factually untrue.

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    Please explain how his tissue was reabsorbed into his body. I've looked all over medical websites for an explanation and other posters have said they've spoken to friends and family members who are doctors and the explanation doesn't make sense. So, without being a condescending prick who gets annoyed because other people are curious, please explain it.

    Remember, you are one of the posters who spread the Hines Ward/Sean Elliott "don't have ACLs" myth originally and that has already been totally shot down as factually untrue.
    As usual you are once again wrong. First, I have never ever posted one word about Hines Ward. Second, RC Buford's post draft video (see spurs forum) talks about Blair, and in it, he specifically states Elliott played with no acl in one leg. I assume he knows what he's talking about. But perhaps you know more than he does.

    Lastly, it's not that difficult to understand that in Blair's case tissue was reabsorbed by his body. After surgery, Blair's tissue was reabsorbed into his body-thus he has no ACL's. It really can't get any more simple than that. Point is, he really has no ACL's, so hopefully, he still has a few great years to give us.

    Why don't you e-mail Dr. Schmidt, one of the Spurs MD, so he can explain to you how tissue gets absorbed into the body. I don't now how or why it happens, but it did in Blair's case. Reading your post about how it is impossible is laughable and just plain wrong. I doubt orthorpoedic MD's have less knowledge than you and the posters you talk about. Besides, I really have no interest in pursuing this dialogue with you, it's getting old. And, in your case, a little knowledge is scary.

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    Sean Elliott played on an unrepaired torn ACL. When someone says he "doesn't have an ACL", they're speaking in loose, non-medical terms, meaning it's torn and hasn't been repaired. It doesn't mean that there is literally no ACL. When you were 6 years old, or in your case probably 15, and your mommy, with a spoonful of applesauce, said "open up Spursmania, here comes the airplane," did you yourself because you literally thought a 747 was going to fly into your mouth? Look it up yourself, dimwit.

    You obviously have no knowledge or interest in attaining any, and for some strange reason get annoyed when other people ask simple questions about an explanation that has struck many people --including doctors-- as just a bit odd.

    Nice way to end your post with lame mangling of an over-rated quote by Alexander Pope.

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    Sean Elliott played on an unrepaired torn ACL. When someone says he "doesn't have an ACL", they're speaking in loose, non-medical terms, meaning it's torn and hasn't been repaired. It doesn't mean that there is literally no ACL. When you were 6 years old, or in your case probably 15, and your mommy, with a spoonful of applesauce, said "open up Spursmania, here comes the airplane," did you yourself because you literally thought a 747 was going to fly into your mouth? Look it up yourself, dimwit.

    You obviously have no knowledge or interest in attaining any, and for some strange reason get annoyed when other people ask simple questions about an explanation that has struck many people --including doctors-- as just a bit odd.

    Nice way to end your post with lame mangling of an over-rated quote by Alexander Pope.
    you mad

    FYI: I guess, I'll just tell my spouse, who happens to be an M.D. here in SA with a musckuloskeletal specialty and who is a colleague of Dr. Schmidt's here in SA, that you're butt hurt because you can't understand how a person's tissue can be absorbed thus leaving them with no ACL. I'll make sure and add that they must be wrong because you can't google a medical explanation for it.

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    you mad

    FYI: I guess, I'll just tell my spouse, who happens to be an M.D. here in SA with a musckuloskeletal specialty and who is a colleague of Dr. Schmidt's here in SA, that you're butt hurt because you can't understand how a person's tissue can be absorbed thus leaving them with no ACL. I'll make sure and add that they must be wrong because you can't google a medical explanation for it.
    Cute use of smilies. I bet your spouse is very proud of you going on the internet and using phrases like butt hurt.

    Explain this to me: why in the initial report did it say reabsorbed? If what you are proposing is correct it should have said absorbed, not reabsorbed. At the very least, the explanation was poorly worded in the article, which is why thousands of people are asking the very reasonable question about the situation. I've looked at Pittsburgh sites and other draft sites and lots of people have the same question.

    Answer me this too: does Sean Elliott have a torn unrepaired ACL, or does he just have no ACL at all?

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    Originally Posted by GSH
    The guy I called is an orthopedic surgeon. He e-mailed me a couple of links this evening - one from the Orthopaedic Journal at Harvard Medical School, and the other from the American Academy of Orthopedic Surgeons. But what the , they're probably all quacks.

    He said that it is possible that the comment about scar tissue being re-absorbed, etc. was because Blair had an allograft done on his knees, where they take tendon from a cadaver to repair the torn ACL. And that it is fairly common for them to "not take", leaving the person ACL deficient. He said that he can't imagine any surgeon simply removing the torn ACL and then recommending that he continue to play compe ive basketball.

    And, for the record, he mentioned Hines Ward. He said that Ward is a very unusual exception for being able to compete like he has. But he has played through tremendous pain, and has gone through stretches where he was on the field but not really able to perform. AND he has had surgery for a torn meniscus. The reason he brought Ward up to begin with is because the doctor said that he "had no ACL", when what he meant was that he had torn his ACL. And that statement has led people to spread the myth that Ward was born without an ACL in one knee.

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    It's kinda funny that all this time spur fans have been giving Laker fans for massively overrated Bynum, and they're doing the same thing with Blair.
    You're an absolute idiot. No one's overrating Blair..we're just saying he can rebound for us for a little while...we don't need an All Star at the big when we have Tony, Manu, RJ, and Timmy playing. We just need a guy who can play the game...Don't hate just because your Mavs drafted BugaBuga and now they're going to lose Kidd as well...your team is falling apart in front of your very eyes, dirk...how do you feel?


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    It's kinda funny that all this time spur fans have been giving Laker fans for massively overrated Bynum, and they're doing the same thing with Blair.
    It's kinda funny cuban hasn't done to improve his team

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    You're an absolute idiot. No one's overrating Blair..we're just saying he can rebound for us for a little while...we don't need an All Star at the big when we have Tony, Manu, RJ, and Timmy playing. We just need a guy who can play the game...Don't hate just because your Mavs drafted BugaBuga and now they're going to lose Kidd as well...your team is falling apart in front of your very eyes, dirk...how do you feel?

    Spur fan has gone so far as to claim him the 2nd best player in this draft. That's overrating him. You don't know what the you're talking about.
    Last edited by dirk4mvp; 06-27-2009 at 10:51 PM.

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    Spur fan has gone so far as to claim him the 2nd best player in this draft. That's overrating him. You don't know what the you're talking about.
    He watches wrestling lol.

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    Spur fan has gone so far as to claim him the 2nd best player in this draft. That's overrating him. You don't know what the you're talking about.
    Considering he was the 2nd or 3rd best big man, and the BEST rebounder by ing far, in the NCAA I dont know if thats considered totally overrating him. I agree though, some people are overrating him quite a bit, still, its a FAR ing cry compared to the Laker fans at one point comparing Bynum to Duncan, except more athletic.

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    You're not winning a championship unless you get serious PROVEN talent on the frontline alongside Duncan.

    The Spurs backcourt has never really been an issue. Parker and Ginobili is enough. You will not get past the Lakers until you are capable of at least slowing down Odom, Gasol, and Bynum.

    I think the Spurs will improve next season but they still aren't on the Laker's level yet.
    I agree that he does have to prove himself. That is what the regular season is for.

    The Spurs have alot of potential to retool this season to become a very dynamic team capable of playing alot of different styles. If that potential is realized, the Lakers will be in serious trouble if they stand pat.

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    Have fun watching Blair fade into obscurity over the next few years . . .


    lmao spurs fans clinging onto a youtube clip thinking that's how it's gonna be 5 years from now.
    5 years from now it won't matter because Duncan and Manu will be gone and it's gonna take a lot more than Blair to make them contenders. We got Blair for the now.

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    I agree that he does have to prove himself. That is what the regular season is for.

    The Spurs have alot of potential to retool this season to become a very dynamic team capable of playing alot of different styles. If that potential is realized, the Lakers will be in serious trouble if they stand pat.
    No they won't. Even if all the new additions pan out for the Spurs they are still a notch below a fully healthy Laker team with Andrew Bynum playing to his potential.

    And the reason for that is this simple fact:

    Kobe+Gasol+Odom+Bynum > Duncan+Ginobili+Parker+RJ

    Our core is better than your core. They are defending NBA champions and in the prime of their careers. Half of yours is on its last legs and in the decline of its career.

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    Cause I don't think SA will be a Championship contender next year, I am an elitist.

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    No they won't. Even if all the new additions pan out for the Spurs they are still a notch below a fully healthy Laker team with Andrew Bynum playing to his potential.

    And the reason for that is this simple fact:

    Kobe+Gasol+Odom+Bynum > Duncan+Ginobili+Parker+RJ

    Our core is better than your core. They are defending NBA champions and in the prime of their careers. Half of yours is on its last legs and in the decline of its career.
    Thats debatable. So you have an inconsistent Odom and young and talented Bynum. Parker and Jefferson are in their prime and have the ability to play a full season healthy. Odom is not even a guarantee to be back.

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    Let's not forget about SA's bench that shot 20% in the playoffs. I'm gonna enjoy watching bonner airball threes next year, too.

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    The majority of you Lakers fans are so negative, you have twisted this thread into something it was not created in the slightest to be. Can you just be gracious for once like your fellow Lakers fan Deadly Dynasty was intending? Blair will suit the purpose that we brought him in for (if his health maintains), that is all, he is not our savior. But give the guy a chance to play one f*cking game in the NBA for chrissakes, before you delegitimize him to Spurs fans. Otherwise you look petty, insecure, gloating or intimidated, which is not becoming at all for champions (or even fans of champions).

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    Spur fan has gone so far as to claim him the 2nd best player in this draft. That's overrating him. You don't know what the you're talking about.
    No idiot...Spurfan didn't claim that....stats did. ESPN mentioned it. If you go by PER, the numbers are right there in black and white that he is the second best in that situation..that's all we said. Don't try to put words in people's mouth...idiot...You're a horrible poster when you're hating, dirk...you should stop that...then maybe you'll be a somewhat decent poster again.

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    He watches wrestling lol.
    yeah...I do...your point?

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    lol spur fans double standard

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    No they won't. Even if all the new additions pan out for the Spurs they are still a notch below a fully healthy Laker team with Andrew Bynum playing to his potential.

    And the reason for that is this simple fact:

    Kobe+Gasol+Odom+Bynum > Duncan+Ginobili+Parker+RJ

    Our core is better than your core. They are defending NBA champions and in the prime of their careers. Half of yours is on its last legs and in the decline of its career.
    Here's my question...do you even know what Bynum's potential is? If he's played below his potential this whole time, how they do you even know that he has potential? Because he's in purple and gold? And if you think Kobe, Gasol, Odom, and Bynum are better than Duncan, Ginobili, Parker, and RJ, you are the worst homer in the history of homers. But we all knew that already...

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    No they won't. Even if all the new additions pan out for the Spurs they are still a notch below a fully healthy Laker team with Andrew Bynum playing to his potential.

    And the reason for that is this simple fact:

    Kobe+Gasol+Odom+Bynum > Duncan+Ginobili+Parker+RJ

    Our core is better than your core. They are defending NBA champions and in the prime of their careers. Half of yours is on its last legs and in the decline of its career.
    Odom and Bynum are too inconsistent to be called a "core". You are relying on the "potential of Bynum" to give the Lakers the advantage? That is the same thing alot of Spurs fans are hoping for in Blair.

    Sure Duncan is older, however, he still put up 19pts and 10 rebounds last season.

    In order to really debate teams, we will have to wait and see what will happen in the FA market. Then this will be continued. After all, someone could lure away Lamar Odom or Ariza from the Lakers.

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