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I totally agree...
Somehow, we will not Gortat to score, just rebound and block shots blah, blah, blah. And Gortat these Gortat lovers want Sheed in Orlando and then we can sign Gortat. We get the leftovers, because he is better... hahahaha
I totally agree...
Give me the HOT HEAD, I am not scared. It a better option than this mediocure journeyman center, Gortat. Pop will keep Sheed in check. Sheed will take the soft label off of our team... Sheed will be signed by Thursday morning... Go Spurs Go!!!!
moronGive me the HOT HEAD, I am not scared. It a better option than this mediocure journeyman center, Gortat. Pop will keep Sheed in check. Sheed will take the soft label off of our team... Sheed will be signed by Thursday morning... Go Spurs Go!!!!
players can't be signed yet
The moratorium on signing FA ends on July 1st. Thursday would be July 2nd. Next time know what you're talking about before calling someone a name.
Did some of you even watch Rasheed play this last year?
Contracts can not be signed yet then.
The moratorium begins on July 1st and ends on July 8th. Players may not be signed before July 8th.
hmmm. Yeah, looks like I'm the moron.
Yeah, they can agree in principle starting on the 1st. It's what 4RINGS meant. The_Game is just an insecure Lakers fan.
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Some of you who are posting in this thread need to either come with some sort of real argument...you know, like ones that come from actually watching a player...or GTFO. Saying things like "Gortat is not athletic" or "What if Tim is hurting" doesn't even require a response because you have already owned yourself completely.
I have seen gortat play and I simply do not believe he is worth a starting center's salary (mle or more). I do believe he is an adequete back up center and worth having for his 10-12 minutes a game. The le of this thread is gortat or sheed and I choose sheed and believe he is still a bald head and shoulders above Gortat. I believe sheed is still better defensivly and can still stretch a defense with his outside shooting.
neither appeals to me all that much, but if forced, I'd go with sheed because of his apparent connections with Pop and TD.
If Finley re-signs, what are the chances we could package him and something/someone for a guy like Kaman from the clips? just a random thought, but I like Kaman, and the clips are known to make stupid moves to save money.
The Spurs don't have enough scorers on the floor for you? How many basketballs are they going to have on the floor at once? The center's job is to rebound and block shots.
The reason Gortat's a reserve is because he happens to play on a team with the best center in the league. He's gotten double coubles virtually every time he's started for Orlando. He'd probably start for at least 20 other teams.
Wow looks like a 50-50 slice through this forum. I think I'd have to go Sheed. He's a talented, vet big and Gortat doesn't really do it for me. I saw all the Finals games and really he wasn't a huge factor. Infact, my biggest memory of him in the Finals was when he missed 2 freethrows...so take whatever you want from that.
Gortat was a bigger factor in the finals than Rasheed was.
He shoots < 60% from the Free Throw line. Brick city.
So you are telling me that gortat will increase the chances of a championship over Wallace? Thats what this thread is all about not if gortat can start for 20 other teams cause if that is your arguement then wallace could start for just about 21 nba teams..top that
Rasheed's mailed it in during the playoffs more than once in the past few years, so don't act like he's somehow this big game player. Some of the biggest playoff highlights of his career involve Spur players shooting threes over him.So you are telling me that gortat will increase the chances of a championship over Wallace? Thats what this thread is all about not if gortat can start for 20 other teams cause if that is your arguement then wallace could start for just about 21 nba teams..top that
People keep using Gortat's status as a backup in attempts to diminish his play. I was simply pointing out that he backs up the best player at his position in the league. It's really great that Rasheed has the capability to play inside and outside at two positions, otherwise he wouldn't even be in this discussion.
still didn't answer the post. Both players are offered mle, gortat or wallace?
That wasn't what you asked, but I'll answer, even though you can't offer the MLE to two players.
Rasheed is clearly the first choice, but there's no guarantee you're going to get him for the MLE, and he does have flaws, not limited to his age, his commitment level and conditioning lately, as well as his history of on and off the court issues. He's failed to show up in big moments of playoff games the last couple of years and he's had an on-court meltdown on the officials in crunch time at least once that I remember. There's also the issue that shots are going to be at a premium during the upcoming year, and the Spurs have never had this many guys on the floor at once who will be needing the ball. That's historically been a problem for NBA teams with lots of stars. If the Spurs decide to go with a traditional big-body true center, Gortat could be poised to step in and provide big production and take a lot of pressure off Timmy without needing the ball. That could very well be the better choice, particularly in the long run if you think Gortat's going to be a better NBA center than Splitter.
Dude, don't test my intelligence. I asked a RELEVANT question. IF Tim was hurting, could Pop run his offense almost as effectively with the relatively inexpereinced Gortat vs. an experienced Wallace. Again, a relevant question.
So just answer the damn question with some worthy insight.
Let's say Tim isn't hurt but he just need his rest during the game and Pop still wanted to run 4-down. Couldn't do it with Bonner or Oberto, had very limited success with Rasho, but Gortat do that? IMO right now, that's a no and if you can't see that...well, then you can't be helped. I wonder how many guys thinking Gortat are like the ones who championed SUCKMYWOKANDI all those years ago. so how did that turn out?
I called that just like I'm calling this one. Gortat, while tantalizing, is never going to be more than a JOURNEYMAN.
Hhhmmmmm......Orlando is trying to mimic the spurs in a sense they want to have a center who can shoot the 3 ball, now that they lost turk who was what, 6'10 and got a more traditional 6'6 Vince Carter they lost some edge they had when playing teams like the Cavs. Gortat plays a lot like Howard which is good but you cant play him and Howard at the same time b/c they would clog the lane, but suddenly if they get Sheed, he stays on the 3 point like and occasionally grabs a few rebounds while Dwight BANGS up everybody on the inside, while i'm glad all of you think Tim can still Destroy people in the paint by himself but thats not going to be the case when we go against the tall line up that the Lakers have! Gortat has been limited this season by being in the shadow of Howard and since he is still young he can take 82 games playing heavy minutes and being banged up here and there!Somehow, we will not Gortat to score, just rebound and block shots blah, blah, blah. And Gortat these Gortat lovers want Sheed in Orlando and then we can sign Gortat. We get the leftovers, because he is better... hahahaha
Hey Eman, Gortat is a Restricted FA, do you still think we will make a run at him?
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