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Wow. That's messed up.
pretty ed up if this is true.
Wow. That's messed up.
Not really all that surprising. It was obvious from the get go that the family was after money.
Even without the whole "child molester" cloud hanging over him... he was still doing things that were really weird. I'm not sure if that had never happened things would have been all that different.
I hate those s looking for the quick pay. I never believed MJ was guilty. Even though it's a couple years late, this is still vindication for the Jackson family.
Yeah like doing things like this:
I wonder what the conditions of his brain were. I wonder if he had some kind of mental problems.
It's from someones blog probably an MJ sympathizer, it has not hit any mainstream media outlet so until its confirmed with several its just bull in my book.
Heres another story about a guy from the UK who never demanded hush money. Apparently he was believed to be the first young boy whom Michael had strange dealings with.
Terry George leapt up excitedly as the phone rang. It was 9pm and he knew exactly who it would be… the most unlikely best friend a 13-year-old boy could have.
It was none other than his pop idol Michael Jackson, who had been calling his Leeds home like clockwork for the past five months after striking up a bizarre relationship.
But this time the besotted young fan’s excitement soon turned to shock and embarrassment as Jacko’s voice crackled down the line.
“He’d ring at 9pm on the dot three times a week and we became like best friends,” Terry recalled. “But on this night he sounded different. The line went quiet and I asked if he was still there.
“Then, suddenly out of nowhere, he asked me if I masturbated and that if I did, did I use cream? I was puzzled
and said no. I said I didn’t know what he meant.
“When I paused he said, ‘Would you believe that I am doing it right now?’ and I could hear down the line he was making strange noises. It made me feel confused and uncomfortable.”
Yesterday Terry – now 42 and a multi-millionaire businessman – said: “Michael was a musical legend and genius. But what he did when I was a teenager was wrong.”
He was the first victim of the star’s obsession with children which would ultimately cripple his career.
Jacko, accused of abusing several young boys, was never convicted of any crime. But multi-million-dollar pay-offs to families and a warped insistence that it was OK to share his bed with boys has left a permanent stain on his legacy.
It was in 1993 that young Jordan Chandler claimed in a police statement he was abused at the singer’s Neverland ranch.
Yet more disturbing allegations followed. Jacko’s obsession with children started when he befriended Terry in 1979.
They met when the youngster turned up at his hotel and asked his idol, then 21, for an interview.
“He invited me into his hotel room and we got on brilliantly,” Terry said. “As I went to leave he invited me to hang out with him the next day at the hotel.
“We would sit and giggle and laugh together. It was clear he was happier to be around children than adults and enjoyed their company.”
Before Jacko flew out he asked Terry for his telephone number so they could keep in touch.
“It made me feel special. I got a buzz knowing I had a direct line to a celebrity so I agreed and he promised he would ring me.”
Just a week later came the first of Jacko’s regular calls from America. Terry recalled: “He’d often ask if my parents were in. And when I explained that they had gone out to play bingo he would relax.
“We would chat for hours about silly stuff.He’d sing songs to me down the phone and we’d talk nonsense. We became like best friends.”
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Then, only months into their friendship, Jacko abused his trust with the call encouraging Terry to pleasure himself.
“He knew that I wasn’t happy with what he had done and that I felt uncomfortable about it.”
However, they stayed in touch, taking turns to call. That ended when Terry rang up a massive bill and his parents’ line got cut off. In 1981 they met face-to-face again in the UK – but this time Jacko was frosty. “I’ve no idea why his at ude towards me had changed,” Terry said.
They lost contact soon after. Then, suddenly in 1993, Terry got a call from LA detectives on the Chandler case.
Terry said: “The police told me that they felt Michael’s behaviour started with his friendship with me.
“Although I knew what he did was wrong I believed him to be a very confused person rather than a paedophile.”
Yet the investigation which followed suggested a very different story. Dozens of children and former staff, including cancer survivor Gavin Arvizo, came forward claiming he’d abused kids.
He was accused of forcing kids to drink “Jesus Juice” – wine in Coke cans – and watch porn in a hidden room off his bedroom.
His alleged victims claimed the King of Pop pleasured himself in front of them – and insisted on “teaching” them how to do it.
At a trial that followed, Jacko was found not guilty of all the charges.
Yet friends say the claims sent him retreating into his own secluded world.
Earlier this year in a shock call to Terry, Jacko laid bare his misery.
Terry said: “He phoned me out of the blue and we both made our peace about what had happened in the past. I’ve forgiven him for what happened.
“He told me he had been under a lot of pressure recently. I think he was a very confused man who never grew up and lived a tormented life.”
He went on: “He said that people were forced to say things that they later regret.
“But he insisted his love for children was entirely innocent.”
Terry also revealed that Jacko had taken a strong interest in the website he’d founded, Gonetoo soon.org – where users post tributes to people who die young.
“He had been on the site and said he was touched to see some of the messages,” he said. “It had left him very sad and emotional.
“It’s unbelievable that three months on he is dead. After all the strain and torment he has lived through I thought he would live forever. And I am sad that he is gone.”
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I think the reason he became weird is because the only people he interacted with were greedy klingon or obsessive fan types. When that is all you see of humanity, of course you are going to ing withdraw from it. Especially if you are pretty much shy in the first place.
He isn't the first, Elvis Presley became that way, Michael Jordan became that way.
Add in the fact that not only he, but all his brothers were always saying they didn't have normal childhoods, that they were working while watching all the other kids playing..
And what does the man who has everthing he can possibly have want? He wants what he thinks he never got.
I mean the dudes best friends were Elizabeth Taylor, who also never had a typical childhood due to s om, and Macauley Caulkin who also had a drieven parent and really didn't have a childhood.
I think he wanted to hangout with what he percieved to be normal kids and be a kid himself, and with others who also missed out on that choldhood, because it was what he didn't have...
Unfortunately, once you reach a certain level fame and wealth, you can never have anything normal again because of greedy klingon types or obsessive fan types. Truly normal people don't want any part of that circus.
Truly normal people also aren't going to loan their kids out, or be bought off when they think they have been molested.
I look at it, and truly, the last thing I would ever want to be is some ultra famous celebrity. Because the only people you will ever meet are greedy or obsessed, and you spend your life surrounded by a bunch of weirder asshat kilngon leech types that want to prove they know you, as if it somehow makes them more important or something...or greedy people trying to claim your material wealth for themselves.
The biggest of the big stars, are always ridiculed.
Jackson got ripped because his face got so ed up...Elvis because he got fat.
It's happened to Britney Spears as well...
Every single move you make, is caught on camera...and it's those same obsessed fan types that claim to love you out of one side of your face, judging you afterwards...and even the fans that are in love play a part in driving the media frenzy...the media goes after what people tune into to, and obsessed fan types tune into bad news just as fast as they do good news.
What's weird to me...is idolizing another human being and thinking somehow you will become more important by proving you know them.
I do not get the obsessed fan mindset.
I do not understand wanting the autograph of someone...lol, either the ones that keep it, or the ones that sell it.
Whether it be waiting hours in a sea of humanity to get an autograph or some other proof of knowing, as if it will somehow change your life....or simply following every single freaking aspect of the life of a celebrity.
That is what's ing weird to me.
I doubt this is true. I pretty sure the MJ estate could sue them for this.
Im sure it was some sort of publicity stunt to drive traffic to the blog.
wasnt mj also a humanitarian vocalists at the peak of his career?
He wasnt a pedophile! He just liked kids. There is still no proof that he did anything wrong, just speculation from sick minded individuals such as ourselves. Because the world covets vulgarity, it is so easy to believe that a person who seems so completelly different can be something people will hate. He was the biggest money maker in the past four decades, so of course the rats will come out to get a piece. Money was always the issue and that was it. People who hate him, hate him soley because the media told them to hate him. He was the biggest star in the history of music entertainment so of course the media is going to attack him, its what they do. And we are dumb enough to listen, and we are gullible enough to believe blatent lies told about him. Anything that he did wrong (in which if it happened to typical person it would just be a human mistake)would be blown way out of proportion by the media. Hes done more for the world then the media will ever give him credit for. He may have not been a war hero, he may have not been a saint and he may have not been perfect (I mean who the is?) but you cannot deny that if you were to meet him that you wouldnt lose your breath in wonderment and awe. Meeting him would be like meeting martin luther king or John f Kennedy to even President Obama. His celebrity was out of this world, far beyond anyone has ever been and will ever be. It is just sad that that became his down fall.
His nanny "said", fwiw, that she pumped his stomach out several times over the years.
BigPharma has lost one of its best customers, but there 10s of Ms of BigPharma suckers around.
I see where he had lupus and vitiligo, both auto-immune diseases.
Lupus is systemic inflammation, attacking arteries and heart, kidneys, lungs, brain.
CVD caused by lupus kills many in their 40s and 50s.
I wonder if the full autopsy will ever be published.
He did a lot of good things with his money and he tried to set a good example...
At the same time, he was totally self centered, superficial, and governed almost totally by his ego. And he definitely had plastic surgery to alter his appearance, and not all of it because of the diseases or injuries he claimed he had.
I don't think he was as bad or whacked out as his critics say, at the same time, he was far from the innocent victim Saint his fans claim he was as well.
He screwed a lot of people over in the business world on the way to getting all that money he gave to charity and he hungered to be the biggest star in the world, there never anyone he was on the stage with that he didn't do something to ensure in some small way that he was the major star, and it worked for him. He definitely wanted to be the biggest most successsful star in the world, and most of the misforutunes that happened to him are because he got just that, and the good and the bad that went with it.
BTW, I do think Michael Jackson is capable of faking his death, in fact that was one of the first things I thought when it was first announced...if any celebrity was truly going to fake their death, it would be Michael Jackson.
He had financial and PR troubles, not to mention an overbearing burden of fame...
But not only that he knows exactly how iconic stars become when they die before their time, and Michael Jackson wanted to be iconic perhpas more than any other performer in history.
How exactly would he hide? That face is so distinguishable, he could hide out in the remote hillside of Butt istan and the media would still be all over that.
Which face is that? Michael Jackson doesn't have a distinguishable face. Show me what his face looks like currently. Then show me what it looked like 3 years ago.
Not really.he could hide out in the remote hillside of Butt istan and the media would still be all over that.
His face is so ed up from plastic surgery no one knows exactly what he looks like....
Not only that but just spent a couple of years in the ME...every ruler over there has a body double.
You never read the story about the guy who escaped from Iraq that had been made to look like one of Saddam's sons?
Those guys do that all the time over there.
Michael Jackson would be the easiest person in the world to disguise, because even Michael Jackson doesn't look like Michael Jackson.
And it'd also be easy to slap a ed up pale face on a cadaver.
I hope Whott doesn't think MJ faked his death. That would be a new level of absurdity that I haven't seen here before.
I don't know that he did of course, I just think it's definitely something he was capable of doing. I do think he wanted to be a star that badly.
I have NO doubts MJ is deader than Creed's come back attempt.
I stand by my rationale for speculating. I definitely think it's something Michael Jackson is capable of doing, and he had plenty of reasons to want to do it.
Whether he actually did it or not, well, we'll never know, unless he actually did do it, and if he did I think we'll find out eventually.
One thing I do know, if they show Jackson in his coffin, not a person in this thread will be able to claim with 100% certainty that the person they show is definitely Michael Jackson based on the appearance of the corpse. Because you don't know what he's supposed to look like, it changes.
Would it be easier or harder to diddle little boys when everyone thinks you're dead? If Michael is still alive he must think it will be easier.
It just has not sunk in yet that Jacko is dead. Just goes to show you how larger than life he is...especially the way 99% of america probably thought at one point it was a faked death.
He's going to live forever as a legend though.
I think it's possible. Most artists' album sales increase after they die. He can make a lot more money now that he's "dead." Who knows. The guy was truly messed up in the head, and could pull it off. I don't know if it's true or not, but I could speculate. He just got his name back in the spotlight again. Yes, it's mere speculation, but I'd probably believe it more once he starts releasing new music like 2pac.
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