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no thanks to gorat or zaza
i would rank them
wallace
mcdyess
villanueva
anderson
glen davis
sheldon williams
frye
american style please
Yeah, I'm far from sold on Gortat. He looked good in his limited minutes but a lot of fans fail to understand the fact that he had four perimeter players around him at almost all times and how much that made life easier for him. Not to mention how much that inflated his states.
On the Spurs, it'll be the opposite. Suddenly he'll have to learn about spacing and playing with others instead of having the entire paint to roam solo.
There's a reason why SVG never played Howard and Gortat together. And when he did, it was usually a disaster.
Another reason he's risky is that he's definitely a buy-high. If the Magic had been bounced by the Sixers, he probably would have gotten a $4-6 million contract. Now he could get $20 million plus.
That said, I have to admit he's really intriguing . . .
no thanks to gorat or zaza
i would rank them
wallace
mcdyess
villanueva
anderson
glen davis
sheldon williams
frye
american style please
So if we did get Sheed, who would be the official C? If i'm not mistaken Sheed plays C in Detroit.
The Spurs need 2 bigs-
1- a starting C who can guard legit 7 ftrs when needed ala- Shaq, Yao
2- a backup PF who can score some points when Duncan rests
Marcus Camby is also 35, and has been overrated his whole career. Denver got better when he left, or was that Iverson?Which are restricted? That would seem to be a critical factor.
Excellent analysis although I might disagree with the top 2. Both are old and don't play as big on D as the Spurs need. The Spurs will need to guard Pao Gasol and, perhaps, Bynum to advance. I don't see Rasheed doing that.
Varejao would be nice and, maybe with Shaq's arrival, could be attainable. Then maybe Pachulia and Villanueva.
Camby is also possible via trade -- he plays good D, runs and can score.anyways Camby is a paper tiger.
there was an NBA draft on thursday
also duncan is pretty much a C now
marcus camby was overrated early in his career when he was always hurt and scoffed by everyone?
11?nice list.
to me, there is quite a big drop in quality between sheed and dice and the rest of the list.
I'm also not sure that players after diogu are even worth being signed.
Question: If bonner was a fa, where would you put him in that list ?
there was an NBA draft on thursday
also duncan is pretty much a C now
So Blair is player #2 ?
Great writeup as usual
Who they go after first is the big question. How likely is it that the Spurs can actually get the player they target? When you look at the top eleven names on the list, three names go to the top of the list of most obtainable.
First, the 4 RFAs (Gortat, CV, Davis, and Kleiza) can't be the number one target. The Spurs can't risk tying up their money for seven days and come up empty while other players are signing elsewhere.
I would also argue that Birdman, Varejao, Zaza, and Bass will be difficult to pry away from their current teams who hold their Bird Rights.
That leaves three names. Most indications are that Detroit will not be interested in keeping either Sheed or Dice, so both will have to find new homes. And no team holds Gooden's Bird Rights, so he will likely be looking for the best situation that offers the full MLE.
So, IMO, Sheed and Dice are 1a and 1b with Gooden in third. The talent level drops off quite a bit after that. I favor Dice by a very small margin over Sheed, but the Spurs would be quite formidable with either one. Gooden would be a decent consolation prize if the Spurs can't get Sheed or Dice.
He helped the Knicks to the Finals in '99 after Ewing went down.Marcus Camby is also 35, and has been overrated his whole career. Denver got better when he left, or was that Iverson?
As far as age goes, look at Camby's stats from last year, they are better than anyone on the above list.
Camby also commands more $$$
No Odom on this list? I will admit he's quite the longshot to sign, but purely from a basketball perspective I would rather have Odom than Sheed or anyone else on this list. Also, would you consider making a similar assessment of possible trade targets? We will likely (IMO) have the expiring contracts of Finley, Bonner, and Mason as ammunition. That would work by CBA for Troy Murphy, for example.
Would you, could you package the expirings of Bonner, Finley (if he didn't opt out) and Mason for Tyson Chandler. Salaries are off by about $1 million. Hornet's seem to want to dump him.
Just pipe no doubt.
It is hard not to get intrigued by someone with his combination of size, age and athleticism. Personally I'd prefer someone with the ability to pull a defending big out of the paint especially now with Blair on board.
we love you timvp!Great writeup as usual
Neither of them can score from more than three feet from the basket.
You'll have to refresh my memory. Those white guys from Europe all look the same to me.
Seriously, I spent an entire season preparing myself for his return to Europe, so I won't even let my mind go there.
Wasn't he like the sixth or seventh best player on that team, though? Not all that impressive for a number one pick.
do we need to have proven all stars all the way down to 10 on the depth chart? have a little faith in the guy, rookies and unproven players in general are almost always an important part of successful teams, what was Ariza before this year? If you wait until after a guy proves himself to get him and play him then you become the Yankees or the Knicks.
TimVP - where would you have Javtokas?
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Between Wallace and McDyess, I would factor in the "Would he be willing to come off the bench?"-factor.
IF, and yes, it's a huge, unlikely if, Ian Mahinmi or Dejuan Blair play so well that one of them is trusted to start . . . would the FA big be okay with that?
McDyess I'm sure could handle it no problem. He'd still be in great shape and come to play no matter what the situation, he's still hungry for the ring.
Wallace I have my doubts. Say he has a minor injury, misses two weeks, and Mahinmi has been tearing it up in his absence and Pop keeps him as starter. Here comes the pout-express. Wallace would go from typically fat and out of shape to even worse shape.
Timvp great write-up. Thanks for the FA fodder.
I'd go after Sheed or Dice in that order.
Then Villanueva or Varejao (hate the hair and flopping but like his energy)
Davis, Anderson.
The Spurs have no shot at Odom. The lakers aren't going to let him get away for just the MLE, and they're sure as not going to sign and trade him to us.
that was a long time ago, you have to do something to become overrated and overpaid, his inflated stats also help.
24 year old camby for the MLE would be better than anyone on this list, 35 year old camby for 7.7 will be less help to this team than Bonner, by a large margin.
I don't know what the FA list looks like at the 3, but I can see why the Spurs FO was excited to get RJ into the mix and take their chances in a FA at the 4. There are some quality names on that list.
I like Gortat and Pachulia, but as someone said in another thread, there is a fear of the Spurs going TOO young and inexperienced. As is, we're already penciling in Hill and Blair (or Mahinmi/Gist) into significant roles. Add in RJ and FA Big into the list, and we're talking at least 4 players with very little experience in the Spurs system (include Mason if you'd like as he barely got to play with Manu last year)
The more I think about it, the more bringing Oberto back makes sense. Not to pick up significant minutes mind you, but to act as a coach/tutor/practice player to help the new bigs out.
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