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    "He's Manu Ginobili." senorglory's Avatar
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    As brilliant of a coach as Pop is, his mind-numbing, man-crush on Finley is hard to explain. And has been detrimental to team success.
    But what do you think of this: Finley's season numbers look pretty similar to his numbers every year with the Spurs, and his '09 Playoff numbers look similar to his '09 season numbers.

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    I don't see Finley as being the type of guy who just wants to sit on a contender's bench hoping to just luck his way in to a ring. He wants to play. He probably wants to play here. But if he didn't think he would get decent minutes I wouldn't be shocked at all for him to not pick up his option so that he could go to a team that would use him.
    I think Finley has had a great career. But, I really hope he opts out.

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    You said it would be a shame if he picked up the contract.
    It would be. He doesn't help the Spurs anymore. The Spurs never should have re-signed him.

    So I see he's a choker now
    He's always had choker qualities. Check out last year in the playoffs after Game 1.

    The SPeedy Claxton recollection of Michael Finley is being enforced I see.
    Finley has been here four years and, while he's had his moments, he's been far from spectacular. Add in Pop's over the top love for him and the Finley Era has had more downs than ups.

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    The saving grace in Finley picking up his option is that the Spurs could deal him and Bonner to take back a player making around $6 mil instead of using Mason.

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    But what do you think of this: Finley's season numbers look pretty similar to his numbers every year with the Spurs, and his '09 Playoff numbers look similar to his '09 season numbers.
    Take a closer look at his stats. After Game 1, he shot 33.3% from the field and 20% from three-point land. If that's not choking, I'm not sure what is.

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    The saving grace in Finley picking up his option is that the Spurs could deal him and Bonner to take back a player making around $6 mil instead of using Mason.
    Even though RC said that he didn't expect the Spurs to make any more trades, Finley's contract should be the first one dealt - if he elects to exercise that option.

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    Take a closer look at his stats. After Game 1, he shot 33.3% from the field and 20% from three-point land. If that's not choking, I'm not sure what is.
    eh. I've always thought his choking tendencies have been exaggerated. While he's a choker to some extent, I don't think being physically inferior and unable to do what you want to do at any position on the court counts as choking...

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    Take a closer look at his stats. After Game 1, he shot 33.3% from the field and 20% from three-point land. If that's not choking, I'm not sure what is.
    the biggest choker on our team wasn't M. Finley, it was your beloved R. Mason.

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    This probably won't make me popular, but I'll go to bat for Fin.

    I think it's easy to get caught up in individual stats, etc. and forget that Fin (and Mason) where asked to be creators in the absence of Manu. Looking at the big picture, role players were asked to step outside their normal roles and play like stars (which they clearly aren't). Pop did the best he could with what he had: Who else could have picked up the slack on last year's roster?

    I'd welcome him back, if for his professionalism and mentoring of the young talent alone. I have no problem with 10-12 minutes a game.

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    the biggest choker on our team wasn't M. Finley, it was your beloved R. Mason.
    ?

    I've admitted Mason choked, too. It's possible for more than one player to choke.

    And I'm not sure where you get "beloved". I'm not even sure I want him on the team, either.

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    I've admitted Mason choked, too. It's possible for more than one player to choke.

    And I'm not sure where you get "beloved". I'm not even sure I want him on the team, either.
    Well you need to have somebody on the roster who will be a bench player

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    The Spurs don't get out of the first round in 2007 if Michael Finley chooses to go play in Miami.


    But whatever, he was a horrible signing, Devin Brown would've averaged 30 a game in his steed.


    The guy has been nothing but class in his time in SA, I can't say the fans returned the favor.

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    The Spurs don't get out of the first round in 2007 if Michael Finley chooses to go play in Miami.


    But whatever, he was a horrible signing, Devin Brown would've averaged 30 a game in his steed.


    The guy has been nothing but class in his time in SA, I can't say the fans returned the favor.
    I agree with everything you just said.

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    The Spurs don't get out of the first round in 2007 if Michael Finley chooses to go play in Miami.
    Finley was the difference between winning in five and losing the series?

    The guy has been nothing but class in his time in SA, I can't say the fans returned the favor.
    I've given him countless props for his intangibles. But there comes a time when he's not going to help anymore. And that was about two years ago.

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    What is that Einstein axiom about repeatedly trying the same thing, yet expecting different results? I realize the decision rests solely with Finley, but another year of him would be idiotic. I'd rather see that roster spot go to someone else.
    Albert Einstein Quotes. Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

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    Albert Einstein Quotes. Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
    That's the one.

    Thanks


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    That's the one.

    Thanks

    Ditto SenorSpur

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    That's the one.

    Thanks

    no problem. i live by that quote. watching finely do nothing for for years has drove everyone here just a bit crazy.

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    there comes a time when he's not going to help anymore. And that was about two years ago.
    That's the real point to all this. This Finley experiement HAS indeed been over for about 2 years. The amazing thing is that we're having to debate to some what should be obvious to all - that he's no longer a consistently productive player.

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    the only way this guy opts out is too retire...who would want a washed up 36 year old with an erratic jump shot and plays no defense????

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    It's funny how the Spurs dumped Hedo after one up and down season, during which he proved that he wasn't ready for primetime and became unglued during playoff pressure. Yet Finley gets 4 seasons, with virtually the same inconsistent, unproductive results.

    The difference? Hedo's career was arrowing up, while Finley's skills and career has been in decline since the day he arrived. , he was in decline during his final couple of seasons with the Mavs.

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    I would like to see Finley go as well, but when you look at the roster, we need to be able to keep some of the same core players/chemistry even as we transition to a younger team. Ideally I'd like to see Bowen back and Finley gone, but it seems unlikely that Bowen will be back.

    There's got to be a mixture of fresh blood along with our experienced nucleus, and while Finley isn't the main vet I want to see returning to the Spurs roster, he seems the most likely choice. As long as we are still able to add some younger players...Gist, Hairston, etc and develop them, I don't have a problem with keeping Finley one more year.

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    someone asked if Finley was still making money from the mavs.

    I thought I read somewhere that the payout for that amnesty thing became spread out over like 10 years.

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    someone asked if Finley was still making money from the mavs.

    I thought I read somewhere that the payout for that amnesty thing became spread out over like 10 years.
    You're correct. It's $5 million per year and I think runs until he will be 44 years old. Dirk and Damp have the same clause in there contracts but I doubt either will be waived by Cuban.

    I'm suprised Fin hasn't spoked with RC by now. Wish we knew whether he's been in contact with Pop at least. I wonder if they even spelled things out to him? Whether they plan on keeping him or not.

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