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Ok, you're right. GTFO Finley, Pop wouldn't be able to help himself.
I'll just pink him.
Ok, you're right. GTFO Finley, Pop wouldn't be able to help himself.
finley will be possibly traded!
my friends mom does eva longoria's hair and supposedly she told one of her friends that the spurs were going to trade finley if he picks up his option i dont know for who or what and my friend never bull s so maybe give some positive in this
man, you have me convinced.
Something nobody even brings up in this thread with Finley is the $$$ issue.
They are in tax territory no matter what. Finley will cost the Spurs in real world dollars $5 million. That could affect their MLE offerings.
I hear what LJ is saying but the Spurs last year didn't have Richard Jefferson. I think that pretty much forces Pops hand.
We're all going to feel like heels when they announce that Fin didn't take his player option, so that he could sign for the league minimum to give the Spurs some lux tax relief. And in his press conference he says that he is happy to come back and play limited minutes for a team that has given him so much - especially his opportunity to finally get a championship ring. Then he'll thank the San Antonio fans for always being there for him.
James Gist.
McClinton
McClinton who RC has already said he's gonna play in the backcourt at times with George Hill.
Theres two things that you might be able to take some solace from - both have probably been mentioned already anyway but....
1. A possible pre arranged trade tha Spurs have made involving Fin. That might be the reason for the delay in a decision, perhaps the Spurs have told Fin they want to go in a different direction, but that they would facilitate a trade that would benefit both parties - and Fin was willing to wait for them do to so. Or...
2. Its a different situation to last year. As bad as Fin was at times last season, there wasnt much else available, especially with Manu injured for part of the season too. This season, you add a relatively young All-Star caliber swingman in Jefferson, who plays the exact same position as Fin, and will likely see 35 minutes or there abouts. Plus, potentially a healthy Manu, who will see 30 minutes a night.
Theres still the small ball fascination thats been mentioned, but im confident a quality big can be found for the MLE, if we dont the team is pretty much screwed whether Fin stays or not because it means having Matt Bonner matched up with the premier big men in the West. So Finley or not, the Spurs season pretty much hinges on the bigman Free Agent signings.
He's been a class guy from day 1. Been nothing but a team player. Done what was asked of him and the people still cuss the guy, call him herpes, hope that he dies, say if he comes back the team is doomed.
Its a shame. He took the Spurs over the Heat. Was a huge help in 2007 to win the championship and has never once whined about .
Yet the fans on him like he was Ron Mercer mixed with Ron Artest.
I'm hoping he does decline his option, retires and lives out his life in beautifull Plano Texas. If he comes back, its not the end of the world, but I do think he doesn't have anything left to give to the team, his legs are shot and hes reached the end of the line.
I can't believe so many people are freaking out about Finley. If he goes great, I wish him the best. If he stays he gives us another expiring contract. Since we've ditched the 2010 plan we could use some of the expiring contracts to pick up someone from a team who does have a 2010 plan. Since it sounds like Holt is willing to pay the tax the possibilities are endless. And if finley is on the Roster he wasn't that bad last season so I wouldn't mind him as a reserve.
we would have about 9.4 mil in expiring contracts:
Finley: 2.5 mil
Bonner: 3.2 mil
Mason 3.7 mil
Manu too but were not trading him unless he gets hurt again and we can rent a championship with someone like Cris Bosh.
With 9.4+(if you trade some cheap Rookie contracts as well) million in trade assets we could get a good player from a team trying to unload a contract that goes beyond 2010. The rights to Tiago Splitter could aslo sweeten a possible deal
Example of possible players that fit this scenario are:
Nick Collison 6.2 mil
Tyson Chandler 11.8 mil
Marcus Camby 7.6 mil
Chris Kaman 10.4 mil
Josh Smith 10.8 mil
Boris Diaw 9.0
Gerald Wallace 9.0 mil
Luol Deng 10.3 mil
Stephen Jackson 7.6 mil
Andrew Bogut 10.0 mil
Samuel Dalembert 11.3 mil
Joel Przybilla 6.8 mil
Andres Nocioni 7.5 mil
Caron Butler 9.7 mil
David West 9.0 mil
Cory Maggette 9.0 mil
Shane Battier 6.8 mil
Andrea Bargnani 6.5 mil
John Salmons 5.4 mil
Troy Murphy 11.0 mil
I know most of these names sound unrealistic, but a team may want to get rid of one of these contracts if the team is not performing well, are having money troubles or if they want to jump in the Lebron, Wade, Bosh, Kobe, Joe Johnson, Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, Raymond Felton, Shaq, Dirk, McGrady, Michael Redd, Ginobili, Bobby Simmons, Amare Stoudemire, Steve Nash, Mike Miller, Brendan Haywood, and Mark Madsen Sweepstakes.
This would most likely not happen, but if it did, it would probably go down during the All-star break or the trade deadline in Feb. To fill up the roster spots that this trade made we could use a combination of Vets and bring in some young players that will spend most of the season with the Austin Toros.
I believe Blair will already be on the team so youngsters who could develop in austin and be brought up once this happened would be:
James Gist-replace Bonner/Finley
Jack McClinton-replace Mason
Marcus Williams-replace Finley
Malik Hairston-replace Bonner/Finley
Nando De Colo-replace Mason
Just one of the Benefits of having the Toros is having more bullets in our gun.
After a trade like this we could also fill up some roster spots with capable and hungry vets that will be cut during the season and available for the minimum being players like:
Bruce Bowen
Robert Horry(Probably not)
Raja Bell
Tim Thomas
Fabricio Oberto
Kurt Thomas
Speedy Claxton
Brian Cook
Brent Berry
Marcus Camby
Udonis Haslem
Mark Blount
Francisco Elson
Brian Cardinal
Etan Thomas
Antonio Daniels
Rasual Butler
Cuttino Mobley
Earl Watson
Chucky Atkins
Damien Wilkins
Anthony Johnson
Ben Wallace
Travis Outlaw
Steve Blake
Shareef Abdur-Raheem
Mikki Moore
Kyle Korver
All these players could be available and possibly cut during this offseason or during the season itself. Alot of these players would already know our system.
I'm just saying, an extra 2.5 million in trade asset is not such a bad thing.
And like I said if he is on the roster I believe he has enough left in him to contribute.
So please don't freak out.
GO SPURS GO
He said he can, not that he will. Guy still needs to make the team and see if his game translates to the NBA. Not a given, for either of the two.
Why everybody hates on Finley? He's a proven vet, who's 24/7 better than Gist, Hairston or the Spurstalk fan favourite Sanikidze. He can give us solid 10-15 mins off the bench + he's clutch. Can be argued, whether 2,5 MIL is too much for his services, but I don't believe we could get someone better for this money, though I'd welcome Anthony Parker for example.
A deadeye shooter who Pop and RC said was "the best defender we worked out" ? I'd say he's made the team.
Gist if he doesn't make the regular roster will be in Austin.
Either way, they are on the team.
Mark Madsen!!
Everbody is ready to dump all of their salary to get Mark Madsen in the Summer of 2010 didn't you hear?
Don't you watch Basketball?
They're ready to go after Tyler Hansbourough?
That's the first thing that I noticed...
This guy truly recognizes greatness.
As for the OP, I generally agree and have said as much in another thread.
My only problem with Finley is his ability to manipulate Pop with whatever the he does behind the scenes.
I'm not sure if Finley being the first, and really only, real big name free-agent the Spurs have been able to land has left Pop feeling completely indebted and/or trying to show the next vet. just how good they could have it if they were to follow in Fin's footsteps, but whatever the case... Pop can't quit Fin.
If Fin is a trusted reserve and designated shooter off the bench, than he's worth having around. The contract, as you mention, is another quality asset to have at the trade deadline if an opportunity arises.
Again, I've got no problem if Fin is used/viewed by Pop as a true reserve, that truly plays reserve minutes. I'm just not sure how you ask a drug-addict or alcoholic to take one puff and pass, or one or two drinks, and call it a night...
Trade him and Bonner for Collison.
What's Oklahoma's motivation?
After reading the first page of this thread I decided there's no way in I'm reading the rest. I know a lot of you guys don't like finley cuz he's pops little pet, old, breaks down on D, goes on nasty cold streaks---but damn you guys act like this ruins a great off-season so far. Settle down Debbie Downers.
Finley has always been a nice, respectable guy on the Spurs. He still has moments where he can come in and hit some big shots. With a limited role I have absolutely no problem with finley staying another year. Plus I'm obviously in the minority, but I always have liked Finley-he's a class act, brings veteran experience, again can hit nice j's/3's now and then. This will not make or break the team next year, but I don't see it as a negative in anyway. If this is true welcome back for one more year Fin, get ready to fill in like 10-15 a game and hit a few 3's.
Last edited by holcs50; 06-30-2009 at 03:41 AM.
Like I said its unlikely, it would take a team wanting to free up space for a player they like more than their own guy in 2010. Unrealistic yes, impossible no. We did just get Jefferson for spare parts so the Bucks could free up some cap space. So it can happen.
ExactlyAfter reading the first page of this thread I decided there's no way in I'm reading the rest. I know a lot of you guys don't like finley cuz he's pops little pet, old, breaks down on D, goes on nasty cold streaks---but damn you guys act like this ruins a great off-season so far. Settle down Debbie Dowers.
Finley has always been a nice, respectable guy on the Spurs. He still has moments where he can come in and hit some big shots. With a limited role I have absolutely no problem with finley staying another year. Plus I obviously in the minority like Finley-he's a class act, brings veteran experience, again can hit nice j's/3's now and then. This will not make or break the team next year, but I don't see it as a negative in anyway. If this is true welcome back for one more year Fin, get ready to fill in like 10-15 a game and hit a few 3's.
Well...like I said before..if he came back, fine...and if he didnt come back...fine. I think having him as a spot backup for RJ for 10-15 mins a game would be fine with me. But if I had a choice, I would take Bowen over Fin. Fin can still hit a clutch 3 in a game, so why not. Just please please Pop stop with the man-crush!
i do enjoy the fact that this garnered 8 pages worth of hate from spurs fans.
meh, you really can't blame Fin but we gotta get rasheed now.
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