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    Wow, I know almost nothing about NBA salary stuff but I know how to add.

    There is no $10M here. Except that MLE, which we'd be paying $10M because of the lux tax.

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    i wouldnt mind it but its not exactly what we need

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    Bad reporting/speculation by the Times. No surprise.

    With Kevin Ding on vaca - nothing good is coming out of the LA papers.

    LO and Ariza will be back in LA for about 6-7 mil a piece.

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    LO and Ariza will be back in LA for about 6-7 mil a piece.
    you were doing gr8 with your post until you wrote that...

    they will both require 10 mill a year... Maybe Ariza will take less...

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    Spurs could sign lamar Odom with the MLE and at the same time give him a 5 million dollar signing bonus, signing bonus dont count against the cap. Just a thought i dont know if spurs have that kind of money lying around in holts pocket book buts its possible.

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    Spurs could sign lamar Odom with the MLE and at the same time give him a 5 million dollar signing bonus, signing bonus dont count against the cap. Just a thought i dont know if spurs have that kind of money lying around in holts pocket book buts its possible.
    Incorrect. Signing bonuses do count against the cap.

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    A couple thoughts.

    If anyone pays Ariza over $7 million they are ing re ed. He is not worth that by any stretch of the imagination.

    And Odom I believe will settle for around $9-10 million for 4 years. Which is extremely reasonable.

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    you were doing gr8 with your post until you wrote that...

    they will both require 10 mill a year... Maybe Ariza will take less...
    Who is going to offer them $10 mil?

    Portland is blowing their wad on Hedo.

    Detroit is close to getting Gordon and want Charlie V.

    Memphis and OKC have no interest - and are going for Lee/Millsap.

    Name a team that's going to give them a $10 mil an offer and you may have an argument. LA isn't going to do it just because. Ludden has it right - they are valued but it would be for MLE money - something LA easily outbids.

    Think, research, and get back at me.


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    A couple thoughts.

    If anyone pays Ariza over $7 million they are ing re ed. He is not worth that by any stretch of the imagination.

    And Odom I believe will settle for around $9-10 million for 4 years. Which is extremely reasonable.
    Why would LA offer LO $9-10? That's outbidding themselves. He made $14 last year because of a trade kicker but his base was only $10.5 iirc.

    They will bring both players back for more than the MLE out of respect but no way either's deal is more than 8 per on avg.

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    I say go for it for the next 2 seasons you pay the prize, but i would think you would make up the money in other areas like going deep into the playoffs selling tickets publicity, merchandise thinngs like that.

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    But more than likely i would say odom would resign with the Lakers.... Ariza might be on the way.......

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    giving Ariza only MLE money is disrespectful for his contribution. When Kuptchak brings it up he'll lol saying:

    lol Sasha
    lol Walton

    He has to earn more than that.... if there's no money out there... he'll sign for a year and then cash in 2010...

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    As I mentioned in my other thread, he would be the absolute perfect fit, but it would have to be for the MLE which seems highly unlikely.

    I don't think LA can afford to pay him $10M a yeare though unless they definitely let Ariza walk.

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    Ariza and Odom are not coming to the spurs, just another article saying San Antonio is interested when they probably are not.

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    giving Ariza only MLE money is disrespectful for his contribution. When Kuptchak brings it up he'll lol saying:

    lol Sasha
    lol Walton

    He has to earn more than that.... if there's no money out there... he'll sign for a year and then cash in 2010...
    No, he would just walk away from LA. Ariza is unrestricted.

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    giving Ariza only MLE money is disrespectful for his contribution. When Kuptchak brings it up he'll lol saying:

    lol Sasha
    lol Walton

    He has to earn more than that.... if there's no money out there... he'll sign for a year and then cash in 2010...
    I didn't say give him MLE - but slightly more.

    That said, both Sasha and Walton make less than the MLE. Sasha is at 5, Walton at 4.8. MLE this year will be about 5.6 iirc. Deals will start at 6-7, only getting 8 if someone like Toronto offers one a big deal. Either way - both will be the 4th and 5th highest players on the team, whether theymay 6 per or 10 per.

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    Go for David Lee, not sure what he's asking for....

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    Why didn't Hoopshype just give us a two-fer and let us S&T Sheed and Odom?

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    I didn't say give him MLE - but slightly more.

    That said, both Sasha and Walton make less than the MLE. Sasha is at 5, Walton at 4.8. MLE this year will be about 5.6 iirc. Deals will start at 6-7, only getting 8 if someone like Toronto offers one a big deal. Either way - both will be the 4th and 5th highest players on the team, whether theymay 6 per or 10 per.
    and you think Ariza's contribution and impact on the team is "slightly" more?

    at the difference you brought up in between MLE and Sasha's and Walton's contract's as something to help you prove your pointless view... those are cents on an NBA contract dude...

    get real, buy some logic and come back when you have a fair offer for Trevor...

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    Go for David Lee, not sure what he's asking for....
    He wants $10 mil per - Memphis may jump and pay him.

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    Why didn't Hoopshype just give us a two-fer and let us S&T Sheed and Odom?
    Again - blame the LA Times, not Hoopshype. All they did was post the link.

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    and you think Ariza's contribution and impact on the team is "slightly" more?

    at the difference you brought up in between MLE and Sasha's and Walton's contract's as something to help you prove your pointless view... those are cents on an NBA contract dude...

    get real, buy some logic and come back when you have a fair offer for Trevor...
    I'm talking business, not basketball.

    A lot of star players are going to make less than they would in normal economic situations. But with the economy, combined with few teams with cap space, combined with teams hoarding 2010 cap space, combined with lux tax fears, and you have only a few teams willing to add - none in the market for LO or Ariza that can offer more than the MLE.

    So LA just bids against themselves for the fun of t?

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    I'm talking business, not basketball.

    A lot of star players are going to make less than they would in normal economic situations. But with the economy, combined with few teams with cap space, combined with teams hoarding 2010 cap space, combined with lux tax fears, and you have only a few teams willing to add - none in the market for LO or Ariza that can offer more than the MLE.

    So LA just bids against themselves for the fun of t?
    I don't think Ariza will settle for less than 6.5 mill a year... If there is no money... he may sign for the MLE... but for one year...

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    Maybe the writer thinks they are going to trade Manu for Odom
    Yep, it would cost us Manu. Ouch! No Thanks...

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    I don't think Ariza will settle for less than 6.5 mill a year... If there is no money... he may sign for the MLE... but for one year...
    So he'll abandon his Bird Right to sign somewhere else? He'll take the MLE on another team rather than stay in LA for 6.5? Even if he thought that was too low - it makes more sense to re-sign with LA for one year at MLE and try next year - where he can at least hope for S&T.

    And I'd make this argument regardless of the player or team. That's NBA Basketball Econ 101.

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