If the money is almost equal it will come down to what role Pop has in mind for Sheed. I do not see him as starter but an Horry clone who relieves Tim alone with Manu, HIll, Finley etc. on the second unit and finishing games. If someone offers him a starting position maybe that is more attractive to him although he won't get starters money. Where would Boston play him?
I don't think so. I think some teams (especially other contenders) might sign him for a little bit more money just to prevent him from signing with the Spurs. If I'm Cleveland, LA, Boston, Orlando or Denver I'm scared of the rumors right now ... cuz if Sheed signs with the Spurs, we'll be the favorites to win it all.
No one wants Sheed to come to the Spurs. The talking heads are making me worry. We are trying to take home the sexy Playboy playmate, but we may have to settle for the Wal-mart Flyer model...that SUCKS!!!!
They overpaid for Hedo, too. They took a huge gamble and it almost worked out for them.
Celtics only gave big baby davis QO only....maybe we should try and sign davis....
but...by giving him the QO, doesn't that make him a restricted free agent?
Yes, the Celtics can match.
From today through the start of the free agent signing period on Wednesday, Project Spurs will profile free agents on our wishlists. Of all the free agent big men that the Spurs might pursue, Drew Gooden is the most well known and familiar to Spurs fans. That is both good and bad.
First, the good. The Spurs front office and their fans had a chance to see him for 19 games during the regular season and four during the postseason, which means they are familiar with what he can bring. That's a good thing because they don't have to ask the same questions about him like they do with Marcin Gortat or Ryan Hollins, who are relative unknowns at this point compared to Gooden. During his 19 games with the Spurs, Gooden confirmed my beliefs about him.
While not a great rebounder, Gooden is a good rebounder. His true rebounding rate, which is an estimation of the total rebounds a player grabs out of all possible rebounds, was 15.5%. This is better than Rasheed Wallace but lower than Tim Duncan, Antonio McDyess or Marcin Gortat.
Gooden also displayed a solid low post game, probably the best that the Spurs have had (besides Duncan's of course) since David Robinson. He showed nice footwork around the basket and has respectable touch from mid range and in. With the Spurs he averaged 21 points per 36 minutes, which was the best of his career.
However, Gooden also has his weaknesses, and I don't mean poor choices in facial hair. Unlike Gortat or Hollins, who are young and still show potential to develop, Gooden is an established player. What we saw last season is what we will get with him. Nothing drastic will change at this point.
Despite Gooden's offensive strengths around the basket he is somewhat of a black hole with the ball. He is not a good passer and rarely looks to create for others. He also doesn't have a high basketball IQ. Don't expect him to make the quick, intelligent off the ball cuts that Fabricio Oberto was so good at a few years ago.
Gooden is also extremely limited defensively. He is nothing more than an average athlete and rarely collects blocks or steals, averaging 0.2 blocks and 0.2 steals with the Spurs. Similar to the offensive end, Gooden lacks a high basketball IQ on the defensive end, missing switches or finding himself out of place.
If the Spurs decide to find an offensive big man then Gooden could be a good fit. However, I have a feeling the Spurs are looking more for defense and athleticism at this point because the addition of Richard Jefferson adds another scorer. Even though DeJuan Blair should help on the boards, the Spurs were weaker at both rebounding and blocking this past season than normal. Gooden should command somewhere between $3 million and $5 million on the market depending on how much others are paid. At 28 he is still young enough that a team could expect 10-13 points and 5-8 rebounds out of him for the next three to four years. The Spurs should probably look at players who provide more in the way of rebounds and blocks but Gooden is an established player they would not have to ask many questions about.
http://projectspurs.com/2009/06/30/f...ew-gooden.html
He's white...
A Perfect Fit? Rasheed Wallace
Posted by: andrewmelnick
As every day passes, it looks less and less likely that Hedo Turkoglu will ever play for the Orlando Magic again. In a previous blog, the thought of the Magic acquiring Brandon Bass and how he would be a very good fit with Orlando Magic was discussed. This would be a great pickup for the Magic and he would indeed be a very good fit, but I’m not sure that he would be the best fit. In fact, the best fit for the Magic could be a player who has been a thorn in the side of Magic – Detroit Pistons PF/C Rasheed Wallace. On draft night, David Aldridge of NBA TV reported that Sheed wanted to decide between the Orlando Magic and the San Antonio Spurs. Now several outlets including Wicked Good Sports, are reporting that both Boston and Rasheed Wallace are interested in each other. The Cleveland Cavaliers are also apparently on Rasheed’s radar. He is apparently good friends with Kevin Garnett and would like to play with the 2007-08 NBA champions. The Celtics are arguably the favorite to win the le again this year. The three Rasheed Wallace suitors are three of the five best teams in the league. In Boston, Sheed would probably not be a starter. Orlando could offer Sheed a starting job.
Wallace’s numbers were down last year – he averaged 12 PPG and 7.4 RPG while playing in 32.2 MPG. He appeared in 66 games and was virtually non-existent as the Pistons were swept out of the first round by LeBron James and the Cleveland Cavaliers. With that being said, in all of his other postseason appearances, with both Portland and Detroit, Wallace has performed very well. This year his team was extremely overmatched losing to a team that won 66 games last season. For Wallace’s career, he has averaged 15 PPG, 6.9 RPG and 1.3 BPG. Throughout his career, Wallace has always been an outstanding interior defender. With Wallace and Dwight Howard, the paint would be locked down. When Howard was in foul trouble in the 2009 postseason, teams had no problem getting into the paint and scoring or kicking out for open shots. Wallace would prevent this from happening. He would be able to be matched up with players like Pau Gasol, who burned the Magic last season, and Kevin Garnett, who is returning from injury, and has always been a thorn in the Magic’s side. He could also keep Dwight Howard out of foul trouble against the Cleveland Cavaliers by covering their new Center, Shaquille O’Neal. He could also match up with Tim Duncan in a potential Finals matchup with the San Antonio Spurs.
Wallace can step back and hit the 3.
The Magic showed a lot of mental toughness during last season’s postseason but many critics still wonder if the Magic lack enough toughness to actually win an NBA Championship. Rasheed would fix that. He never backs down and has a type of swagger that the Magic seem to lack at times. Rasheed would become the starting PF, allowing Rashard Lewis, the Magic’s 18 million dollar man, to move back to his natural position of SF. This would give the Magic maybe the biggest, toughest front court in the NBA. They’d have a chance to lead the league in both rebounding and shot blocking, rather than just having Dwight do all the work. Besides that, Wallace has always defended Dwight Howard better than anyone else and keeping him away from the other two Eastern Conference contenders, Boston and Cleveland, would be good news for Superman. Rasheed is not only a pretty good scorer in the paint, but he has a nice stroke from downtown. Rasheed can hit the three, which, even without Turk, would still allow the Magic to have four threats from three point range surrounding Dwight Howard. He could also make players like Gasol and Garnett step away from the basket to guard Sheed, allowing for penetration by Jameer Nelson.
Of course there are some drawbacks. Rasheed Wallace is 34 years old, had a poor postseason and one of his worst regular seasons in a while. There are some reasons that Sheed may have not performed up to his usual standard. The trade of Chauncey Billups for Allen Iverson really hurt the whole team. Not only did they lose their floor leader, but then, Iverson was injured for a good portion of the season. The Magic, on the other hand, are just getting their floor leader back as All Star PG Jameer Nelson returned from a midseason injury in the NBA Finals. Rasheed also played Center during the last two seasons while in Orlando he would move back to his natural position of PF. Rasheed also has mental lapses and a big mouth which is why he usually leads the league in technical fouls. He can really get a team into trouble, but also, his antics have many times sparked his Pistons teams. All in all, Rasheed Wallace seems like he would be another fantastic acquisition and a perfect fit with the Magic. Newly acquired SG Vince Carter should get his fellow UNC alumni on the phone.
http://howardthedunk.com/2009/07/01/...sheed-wallace/
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Sources say Boston Celtics GM Danny Ainge and assistant director of basketball operations Leo Papile showed up on Rasheed Wallace’s(notes) doorstep just after midnight Wednesday to make their recruiting push.
“I know he is definitely considering playing for them,” one league source said.
The Celtics also have expressed interest in Toronto Raptors guard Anthony Parker(notes) .
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_yl...yhoo&type=lgns
If the money is almost equal it will come down to what role Pop has in mind for Sheed. I do not see him as starter but an Horry clone who relieves Tim alone with Manu, HIll, Finley etc. on the second unit and finishing games.
If we get Sheed, he will definitely start. You're going to start Bonner ahead of Sheed? Are you freakin kidding? I think Bonner moves to the end of the bench. He sucks. If Ian can contribute at all, I don't see Bonner playing.
19th in the league in +/-
explain how causing your team to outscore opponents by 9 points more per 48 minutes when you are on the floor sucks
I bet RC and POP were at his door too. Right now Sheed prob. has about four offers in front of him that he is considering. It is going to be tuff...
He sucks because he has RED hair.
Thanks for the info Senor. I hope so.
I've got no beef with Bonner, but let's not fool ourselves into thinking that Bonner's +/- rating is anything more than a reflection of how much time he got to spend on the court with Tim Duncan and Tony Parker. +/- is the most mis-used stat there is.
Yeah, Bonner really tore them up in the 5 playoff games. He freakin disappeared!! He's terrible on defense and he's a mediocre rebounder. He can only shoot threes and when the other team steps up and stops that, he's totally useless.
I guess if you keep perpetuating a myth it eventually becomes truth.
I didn't think he was that bad on defense either.
Does anybody think that with all the talk about Rasheed, the lack of talk about McDyess is just as intriguing? He's more of a prototypical Spurs-type of player anyway, so I wouldn't be surprised if he was the Spurs' #1 preference all along.
Bonner's floor time stats were better when paired with KT than with Duncan, Tony Parker has better floor time stats with Bonner than with TD, so who's making who look better?
he may not look pretty out there, but the team definitely plays better when he's on the court
it's really not hard to understand
in the 1900 or so minutes that Bonner was on the court, the Spurs outscored opponents by 338 points
in the 1975 or so minutes that Bonner was NOT on the court, the Spurs were outscored by 10 points
I'm just going to say it right now- Boston.
I would hope that our starters would outscore the other team. Is that so hard to understand? If he was negative, then so would Tim and Tony. Stupid statistic that has no bearing on anything.
If it's so important, then what was his +/- during the 5 playoff games?
Last edited by Da Spurs; 07-01-2009 at 12:50 PM. Reason: add
Bonner is a paper tiger.
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