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No one is saying he would not be an upgrade in overall talent, what I am saying is that he might not be the best fit for the price and could cost a decent amount of money and not really fulfill a need in the best of ways.
Props, for actually taking the time.(You're a better man than I.)
No one is saying he would not be an upgrade in overall talent, what I am saying is that he might not be the best fit for the price and could cost a decent amount of money and not really fulfill a need in the best of ways.
Damn, after seeing the stats and placement, I don't want him anymore. But for a decent price he would be able to equal Oberto+Bonner's contribution from last year, if given solid minutes. Of course, that really isn't saying too much.
I know I'll be in the minority with this opinion, but I really like Jeffries, and while 6.8 mil is overpaying a bit for sure, I'd still love to see the Spurs pursue this option. Lee would start, and Jeffries could duplicate what Bowen used to do defensively, guarding at least four different positions. Jeffries isn't the 3 pt shooter that Bowen is, but he's good for more rebounds and blocked shots, so it's basically a wash in my eyes. I just don't think the much vaunted "2010 plan" makes sense anymore. Duncan is starting to slow down, and I don't know if big time free agents like Bosh or Dirk will still think of San Antonio as a place to go to win les by time next summer rolls around. The Spurs have had trouble landing star free agents with a healthy Duncan & a team favored to win a championship... what are the chances of landing one with an aging Duncan, and a perception that they are no longer the favorites?
Walsh is trying to ditch Eddy Curry's bad contract in that sign-and-trade for Lee. And nobody in the league is going to touch it. Especially when they know they can make an offer to Lee and force the Knicks to match - which they probably can't or won't.
Lee and his agent think he's worth more than the MLE. He isn't... especially not this year. There aren't going to be a lot of greater-than-MLE deals handed out, and there are too many guys competing for those contracts. (Like Gordon, Boozer, and Hedo, to name a few.) I just don't see any way Lee fails to be one of the players who falls through the cracks. The Knicks aren't going to sign him for a full MLE deal. So I think he's up for grabs.
The bigger question seems to be if he's for real. I don't think you put up numbers like he had without being a pretty good player. I see a guy who likes to play ball, likes to compete, and works his ass off. He does a lot of his scoring in the paint, and gets to the line reasonably well. But he doesn't get many blocks or rebounds.
I think he might be worth the MLE. And even if he isn't a perfect long-term fit, he might be worth more in a trade in the next couple of years, if things loosen up a bit.
I was able to watch this guy play a bit this year (thank you NBA League Pass) and trust me ha can play. I would love to see him with the spurs.
Or will he cost too much?
I don't know enough about him to know but I do know he's a strong rebounder and has good size/strength.
His stats (yeah, on the Knicks) say he knows how to score which is more than our non-TD bigs.
Costs way too much
Costs too much. no chance the Spurs get him. Word is that Memphis might be offering him a deal worth about $50 million.
David Lee is a beast but he is way too expensive.
He demands that much? Damn!
I'd like it, but never gonna happen.
Didn't he lead the league in double-doubles last season?
Of course he's going to demand A LOT.
Knicks initial offer to Lee was 4yrs/$32mil.
I just thought that I had not seen him on any teams' top of the list FA to sign this summer. There were only a few teams that had money this summer above the MLE, I had not seen Lee at the top of the list of any of those.
Thought maybe it would be one of those situations where not enough money out there and the Knicks maybe lowballed him because of this or didn't think he fit D'Antoni's system enough to pay too much.
Wishful thinking I guess.
I guess we can't rely on the "He'll work for food in order to get the outta the Knicks Uni" strategy with David Lee.
Why hasn't anyone mentioned him as a target. Granted his price may be a bit high and he's a restricted free agent, but I wouldn't mind the Spurs at least exploring the option of getting David Lee in a sign and trade maybe.
He has the same game as Blair, so that may be a bit offputting, but Blair's an unproven rookie and Lee is proven to be a solid contributor.
He has been mentioned in about 3 other threads.
What exactly do they have to trade? As you said he is a RFA and the rumored offers appear to be around 5 years and 50 million.
I honetly have never seen his name, especially considering all the player specific free agent target threads. I think Lee is a much better option than say Artest, who's NEVER coming to the Spurs.
Just saying. Plus, there's so many trade threads, it's hard to keep up with who was named where and why.
david lee = jackie butler
hence ppl who statpadd on teams are not worth looking at, cause in the spurs system he will not avg them kind of stats ever again
david lee = jackie butler
hence ppl who statpadd on teams are not worth looking at, cause in the spurs system he will not avg them kind of stats ever again
The conclusion: money!
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...=125003&page=2
I didn't say it was going to be easy. By D'Antoni love Euro players and the Spurs have them stashed. Make an offer where they get one of our picks (I'm sure Splitter is the target although I'm iffy on trading him) and some expiring contracts so the Knicks are in great shape for 2010 like they want to be to go after Lebron.
we need a true big
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