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yeah Aldridge really killed in the Playoffs
[Edit, July 8: The Blazers are trying hard to sign David Lee. Might that change their willingness to deal Przybilla? See below.]
Considering how good LaMarcus Aldridge was last season, if the Blazers think that Greg Oden is actually going to play this year, they might be able to afford to trade Joel Przybilla. His salary is a match for Finley/Bonner.
What's in it for the Blazers? They get a couple of guys who can shoot the 3, and a pair of veterans who have experienced winning a championship. They also get two expiring contracts that would give them incredible cap space in 2010. If Oden and Aldridge are both healthy, they won't be able to give a lot of minutes to Przybilla, which will make it more difficult to trade him the next season.
For the Spurs part, he isn't a star-quality C, but he fits the description of what they are supposed to need. He's a legitimate 7-footer, and he's strong. He's a good rebounder, and a reasonably good defender, and he'll block some shots. He's not much of a scorer, but everyone says that is of secondary importance for that position right now. He's a true C, in that he spends virtually all his time in the paint, instead of ranging out to shoot jumpers. At his current salary, he is affordable, and a trade would still leave the Spurs the MLE, if they needed to make any more acquisitions.
Length isn't a big problem for the Blazers - in addition to Oden and Aldridge, they have Batum (6-8), Travis Outlaw (6-10), and their draft picks Claver (6-9), Pendergraph (6-9), and Cunningham (6-8). And they have more than their share of youth and athleticism. What they lack is veteran leadership, and players who have been there before, to help them get to the next level. And if they aren't confident enough in Odem, either his health or his ability, to go with him and Aldridge, they have problems that extend beyond the upcoming season.
Last edited by GSH; 07-08-2009 at 06:53 AM.
yeah Aldridge really killed in the Playoffs
here we go with the crap for _______________ trade threads
Is it any worse than the hundred Rasheed Wallace threads?
Before you start the smack talk:
Przybilla's contract is $6.8M this season, but he has a player option in 2010 for $7.4M. In 2010, the Blazers will be able (I believe) to extend the contracts of LaMarcus Aldridge and Brandon Roy.
Which do you think will be their biggest priority - keeping Przybilla, or keeping Aldridge and Roy?
Do you think that $7.4M of cap space might be important to them?
Do you think it will be easier to trade Przybilla this season, at $6.8M, and after a good season - or next year, for $7.4M after coming off the bench behind Odem and Aldridge?
The cap space is going to be important to the Blazers. More important than Przybilla this year? Maybe.
I guess, but Sheed is actually a realistic and decent proposal, the threads about "Trade Mason, Hill etc... For bull big man A or B" are 0% chance.
You can really tell it's offseason at Spurs talk.
This place is for discussion...What's the point of coming into a thread you don't like just to say "What's the point?"
And the OP didn't say anything about trading Hill, or Mason. So, it can't really be compared to those types of trade proposals.
I'm not sure Portland is ready to give up their Oden insurance just quite yet. Especially not to us.
I don't think you can call Pryzbilla an unrealistic trade target. GSH makes valid points about Portland's cap number...and remember that Pryzbilla was heavily pursued by the Spurs a couple summers ago, when they ultimately balked at giving him an extra year on his deal.
I'd put Pryzibilla in the same category as the Camby/Kaman trade discussion...each carries a pretty big cap number and is on a team that looks like it's headed in a different direction (Portland to Oden/Aldridge and LA to Griffin).
I'm sure there will be plenty of free agent discussion this summer, but I certainly wouldn't discount trade discussions either.
I'm not either. And probably not without some kind of sweetner. But I don't think it's 100% out of the question, considering their need to retain all that young talent.
When you look at the list of FA bigs, and subtract out the ones that are absolutely out of our price range, the field is pretty small. Portland likes Przybilla, but they don't love him. I think he's one of the very few trade possibilities that we could actually afford, and that we might have an outside shot at landing.
Pop loves this guy...
Pop also loves Finley...so where does this leave us
If someone had proposed Bowen Thomas Oberto for Richard Jefferson, would you have said the same thing?
I didn't want to make the OP incredibly long, but there's a little more.
If the Blazers cleared Przybilla's cap space for next season, they could afford to sign one or two better quality pieces for this season (like Lamar Odem for instance) and still afford to keep Aldridge and Roy well into the future.
IF (and I admit it's a big if) you knew that Oden was healthy, would you rather have Lamar Odem, or Joel Przybilla for short minutes off the bench? So the question may be whether to gamble on having a championship-caliber team, or to make certain that they have a solid team.
If Oden is healthy, Przybilla is worth a lot more to the Spurs than to the Blazers. And he's worth more this season than he would be next season.
He would be perfect imo.
Fixed.
You act as if this is another typical Finley/Bonner thread. Pryzbilla is another Rasho, without the consistent jumper. He's a bit more mobile than Rasho though and younger to boot.
Not a bad idea if Sheed is already in the mix here. I still believe that we need a big who can spread the floor.
No
Good thread. Worth considering. Sheed and Dice are obviously better for us, but Joel wouldn't be bad considering he is a solid defender and rebounder. It's may not be the most likely, but I agree that it is far from outside the realm of possibilities based upon what we know right not.
Sounds like it may work. If they took Finley and Bonner SA wouldn't be losing anything. If SA somehow got Rudy Fernandez out of them it would totally rock. With Roy and Websters contracts they probably won't be s ing out big money for Fernandez next year anyway since that would hinder them in the FA bonanza. His offense could come in handy.
I Agree with this.
I live in Portland now so I watch the Blazers a lot. Pryzbilla is a good defender. He is one of those guys who is strong enough to keep opponents out of the low post and good position. He also has good basketball IQ for a big man. To me he is exactly what the Spurs need. Of course Sheed or McDyess are better overall players. But in terms of a specific need, Pryzbilla fits the bill.
Whether the Blazers want to trade him, I can't say that I've heard anyone discussing that here. The Blazers are overloaded at SF with Outlaw, Martell Webster, Batum and Rudy all competing for minutes. Eventually they will move one of those guys. Plus they're looking into Hedo. That is why I'm not sure they would want Finley, but maybe for his "veterean leadership" and clutch shooting. I doubt it.
The Blazers have made it clear that they want to sign David Lee, and some big numbers are being tossed around. If they sign Lee, would they be any more likely to trade Przybilla? Remember, they are going to be loaded with bigs, and they will need cap space to extend LaMarcus Aldridge and Brandon Roy. If they don't deal Przybilla this year, they will probably look to do it next year.
If we traded Bonner/Finley/Mahinmi, we would still have the full MLE to sign another player or two. When you look at the rest of the Blazers' roster - especially with the addition of Lee, those guys actually make some serviceable backups, and their contracts would allow Portland to retain their best two young players.
Pop likes him.. but Pricktchard would never do a deal with us... never...
Portland doesn't want our scrubs. Besides, last I checked Paul Allen was the richest NBA owner and had about $10 bil more than the second richest owner. I doubt he's in any kind of a hurry to start giving away good players just so he can save a few bucks.
It's not about "saving a few bucks". If they could sign Lee, keep Pryz, AND sign a FA next summer, they'd probably do it. They can't though, because of cap room, or lack thereof. The only way to get it is to have ending contracts. Enter: Spurs.
I'm not completely averse to Pryz, but to lighten Portland's 2010 cap load like that, they MUST include Rudy in any deal.
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