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    I'm a Big East basketball fan, so I've watched Charlie Villanueva play for a long time. He is a much better help defender than Gooden particularly in the area of shot blocking. Next to Duncan he can really help defend the rim a lot better than Gooden ever could, and that's an area where the team needs to improve greatly. Rasho wasn't great but he helped protect the rim. I can't remember the last time I saw a Spurs team give up as many layups as this year's team did. Not that CV would be a savior there, but he'd help.

    He has been an inconsitent player because he is one of those guys that gets bored and zones out if the team is not winning on a consistent basis. If he's on a good team and has "something to play for" (like a fat contract or a legit chance at a le), he can be an absolute beast in this league. His upside is far higher than Drew Gooden. But if the team is not really a le contender, CV is definitely a guy who will take a few nights off.

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    I think the biggest upside to having someone like Charlie V on our team because of his height and athleticism would be his potential in guarding those tricky power forwards on other teams. Players that often give us trouble because they are too unique, players such as Dirk and Odom. Charlie may come off the bench, but late game I would expect to see Parker, Ginobili, ??, Charlie, Duncan.

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    Villanueva can score, but he needs tons of shots and he is a very inefficent scorer. considering he would be the #4 option with the Spurs, this isn't good news. Spurs need role players, who hit the few shots they get. and he's neither a good rebounder, shot blocker or defender. I don't see how this makes the Spurs a better team overall.

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    There is a growing belief around the league that Charlie Villanueva has moved ahead of Hedo Turkoglu on Detroit's wish list.

    Chicago's Ben Gordon remains the backcourt player deeply coveted by the Pistons, but the prospect of a Gordon-and-Villanueva combo likely would be slightly cheaper than trying to sign Gordon and Turkoglu with Detroit's nearly $19 million in projected salary-cap space.

    So look for the Pistons to take that approach -- barring another shift in focus to a Gordon-and-Paul Millsap combo -- while they also decide between Doug Collins and Avery Johnson as their next coach.

    Gordon could receive an offer as soon as Wednesday, after sources confirmed that Gordon will be making a formal visit to Motown right away.

    That has established Portland as the most determined Hedo suitor on the market, which the Blazers made clear by reaching out immediately to Turkoglu's agent Lon Babby in the early, early minutes of Wednesday. Besides Detroit, Toronto (which likely would have to get sign-and-trade creative) and Sacramento (which would have to show an unexpected willingness to spend) also continue to be linked with the Magic's outgoing closer.

    Did someone say outgoing? Sorry, Magic Kingdom. Despite Dwight Howard's televised pleas Tuesday night for Turkoglu to stay, pretty much no one I've spoken with has been able to manufacture a realistic scenario that enables Orlando to afford keeping him after the financial commitment it took on in trading for Vince Carter.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/column...Chatter-090701

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    Gordon, Villanueva meeting with Pistons

    Chicago Bulls guard Ben Gordon(notes) and Milwaukee Bucks forward Charlie Villanueva(notes) flew to Detroit on Wednesday morning for a mid-day meeting with team president Joe Dumars and indications are both are moving rapidly toward deals with the Detroit Pistons, league and sources close to the two players told Yahoo! Sports.

    Gordon and Villanueva, both unrestricted free agents, would be significant strikes on the first full day of NBA free agency.

    Gordon and Villanueva have history together, and are good friends. They played for the University of Connecticut, although never together. The Pistons have nearly $20 million in salary-cap space and it’s thought that the offers to these two players would come close to expending that money.

    Gordon, who scored 20 points a game last season, turned down a $54 million Bulls extension as a restricted free agent last summer.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_yl...yhoo&type=lgns

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    Gordon, Villanueva meeting with Pistons

    Chicago Bulls guard Ben Gordon(notes) and Milwaukee Bucks forward Charlie Villanueva(notes) flew to Detroit on Wednesday morning for a mid-day meeting with team president Joe Dumars and indications are both are moving rapidly toward deals with the Detroit Pistons, league and sources close to the two players told Yahoo! Sports.

    Gordon and Villanueva, both unrestricted free agents, would be significant strikes on the first full day of NBA free agency.

    Gordon and Villanueva have history together, and are good friends. They played for the University of Connecticut, although never together. The Pistons have nearly $20 million in salary-cap space and it’s thought that the offers to these two players would come close to expending that money.

    Gordon, who scored 20 points a game last season, turned down a $54 million Bulls extension as a restricted free agent last summer.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_yl...yhoo&type=lgns

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    I can see why the Pistons want Gordon, but Charlie V? they have a long SF, who can play some PF either, they just drafted Daye, Summers and Jerebko, 3 combo forwards and then they try to add Villanueva????
    I mean, yes, many experts call this type of versatile forward the future of the NBA, but I don't think this means to play them at all 5 positions.

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    Person with knowledge of deal: Piston agree to deals with Gordon and Villanueva

    Villanueva, the seventh overall pick by Toronto in 2006 who has played all three of his NBA season with the Milwaukee Bucks, also agreed to a five-year deal. His contract is worth at least $35 million.

    http://www.newsday.com/sports/basket...,2561066.story

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    Maybe with Villanueva getting just 7 million per year other players that are alot less talented players will realize they're not getting nor are they worth the full MLE.

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    Yeah, this deal sets the bar at a reasonable place. If Villanueva is getting 5 years and $35 million, that could knock players like Pachulia and Gooden under the MLE.

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    ESPN is reporting this a done deal too...http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4301111

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    No brows signs with pisstons

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    Defense...you has none.

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    The Detroit Pistons made the biggest early splash in free agency on Wednesday, agreeing to terms with Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva.


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    Former Bulls guard Gordon will receive a five-year, $55 million deal, while former Bucks forward Villanueva gets a five-year deal for $35 million, sources told ESPN.com's Chris Broussard.
    Gordon rejected deals from Chicago in excess of $50 million each of the past two seasons.
    The Associated Press first reported the Villanueva signing.
    Free agents can't officially sign with new teams until July 8.
    Gordon, who was taken third in the 2004 draft by Chicago, led the Bulls in scoring each of the past four seasons. He averaged 20.4 points per game on 45.5 percent shooting last year. For his career, he has a 21.3 points per game average.
    Villanueva, the seventh overall pick by Toronto in 2006 who has played the past three seasons with the Bucks, averaged 16.2 points and 6.7 rebounds per game last season.

    The Pistons now turn their attention to re-signing forward Antonio McDyess, but they'll have compe ion from the Cavaliers, Celtics and Spurs.
    Chris Broussard covers the NBA for ESPN The Magazine.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4301111

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    Do you think the additions that the Pistons have made improve the chances that McDyess stays in Detroit? IMHO, they have put themselves back into the top 4-5 teams in the East and he has already stated that he would rather not uproot his family. It appears that Detroit wants him back, but do the new additions improve the chances that the feeling is mutual?

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    That was too quick.

    Now they can go after McDyess

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    Charlie Villanueva | F
    Born: Aug 24, 1984
    Height: 6-11 / 2,11
    Weight: 232 lbs. / 105,2 kg.
    College: Connecticut
    Years Pro: 3

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    He will be a RFA if Bucks extend a $4.6M QO.

    I've seen him played since his college days when he was playing with Huskies. He bring energy,got rebound, blocking and explosive plays in Connecticut back in the days..he also young and got plenty energy to dispose in Spurs uniforms. I think its better than Sheed..although if I were in playoffs now I will choose Sheed over him. He's young and he is still developing. He need Spurs coaching to be able to oeprate at his best. I wouldnt mind spending MLE on him. By the way, can we somehow bring Gist from Italy? LLE what its worth?

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    Just saw his pic.. amazing, he really doesn't have any eyebrows!

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    The Detroit Pistons made the biggest early splash in free agency on Wednesday, agreeing to terms with Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva.


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    Former Bulls guard Gordon will receive a five-year, $55 million deal, while former Bucks forward Villanueva gets a five-year deal for $35 million, sources told ESPN.com's Chris Broussard.
    Gordon rejected deals from Chicago in excess of $50 million each of the past two seasons.
    The Associated Press first reported the Villanueva signing.
    Free agents can't officially sign with new teams until July 8.
    Gordon, who was taken third in the 2004 draft by Chicago, led the Bulls in scoring each of the past four seasons. He averaged 20.4 points per game on 45.5 percent shooting last year. For his career, he has a 21.3 points per game average.
    Villanueva, the seventh overall pick by Toronto in 2006 who has played the past three seasons with the Bucks, averaged 16.2 points and 6.7 rebounds per game last season.

    The Pistons now turn their attention to re-signing forward Antonio McDyess, but they'll have compe ion from the Cavaliers, Celtics and Spurs.
    Chris Broussard covers the NBA for ESPN The Magazine.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4301111
    I would never want to have Ben Gordon on my team, unless it is for a Steve Kerr in 03 role, but that's not worth 55 mil over 5 years. I don't like what Dumars did.

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    Just saw his pic.. amazing, he really doesn't have any eyebrows!
    Do you know that he has alopecia?

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    Yeah, this deal sets the bar at a reasonable place. If Villanueva is getting 5 years and $35 million, that could knock players like Pachulia and Gooden under the MLE.
    Another article said 5 years $40M.

    The Detroit Pistons made the biggest early splash in free agency on Wednesday, agreeing to terms with Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva.

    Former Bulls guard Gordon will receive a five-year, $55 million deal, while former Bucks forward Villanueva gets a five-year deal for $40 million, sources told ESPN.com's Chris Broussard.
    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4301111

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    With these two signings, the Pistons still have a lower than average payroll. Some reports say they will turn their attention now to resigning Dice.

    I almost forgot that Gordon and CV were teammates on that championship team at UConn.

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    Charlie's giving away free tickets to NBA games.

    He's having a Tweet Battle with Chris Bosh, first to get 50k followers get to make the other do a youtube video of the others choice.

    Both are spending a lot of time recruiting (probably should spend some more time training?) but I'd personally rather see Charlie win.

    So follow CV31 http://twitter.com/CV31

    "5 followers will get 2 tickets to a NBA game, which ever city you are from, so Detroit and the city your from game, spread the word"

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    It's for charity now.... CV31 donating shoes

    RETWT THIS: So for every new follower I'll donate a new pair of shoes to needy children, that's 3172 happy kids http://tinyurl.com/mogzq7

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    Noooooo
    as a milwaukeean and a bucks fan second I've seen this selfsh bas far to much. I know what he brings, and it's not worth the pain.

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