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    Who's the French NT center, Turiaf? I read where Petro won't get re-signed by the Nuggets.

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    thanks bruno

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    I agree that PG will not be his full time position but I can see pop letting him run the offense (ala mason jr) if needed.
    I can see it as well. He let's Manu do it. They would essentially fit the same role. Could be Manu's replacement in training? Both drafted in the 50s, both havin a SG body with a playmaker mindset, I like this dudes game and I hope he does nothing but improve while he's in Spain. Bruno, do u know anything about the proposed deal this Spanish team he's goin to has offered him? Is there a yearly buyout? and also does anyone have footage of the Parker/de Colo tandem from last yrs NT?
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    Bruno, do u know anything about the proposed deal this Spanish team he's goin to has offered him? Is there a yearly buyout?
    The latest I read was a 3 years contract with a NBA buyout option each year.

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    12, huh...

    We're not going to have another Manu situation if or when he comes over, are we?
    I've seen video of him in europe also wearing the number 7.

    So I think were safe

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    Unless Oberto comes back...

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    Unless Oberto comes back...

    ...the plot thickens.

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    plus now that oberto is gone... Argentina can not compete with us anymore
    Well Manu has said not too long ago that he would love to join Scola on the Rockets after this year and now that we're stacked now it may just happen.

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    Well Manu has said not too long ago that he would love to join Scola on the Rockets after this year and now that we're stacked now it may just happen.
    ...source

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    Well Manu has said not too long ago that he would love to join Scola on the Rockets after this year and now that we're stacked now it may just happen.
    This is a slightly frightening idea. Where'd you hear this?? I don't really believe it but still...

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    Manu will join Barry and Scola with the Rockets... O, NO!!!

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    Well Manu has said not too long ago that he would love to join Scola on the Rockets after this year and now that we're stacked now it may just happen.
    This is a slightly frightening idea. Where'd you hear this?? I don't really believe it but still...
    The article with the quote is in post #7. It came out May 27.

    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=127467

    When asked if he could envision himself playing with Scola in Houston, Ginobili said: "Well I would rather bring Scola to San Antonio but if at any time the Spurs donīt want me, Houston would be a good place for me."

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    So he is just about to sign a new 3-year contract, with buyouts? That should make for a never-ending stream of thread topics for the next three years. I wonder if his contract will be structured anything like Rubio's?

    Rubio, 18, was paid just $97,000 last season to play with his Spanish team, which wants him to remain in his homeland so much that it attached a $6.6 Million buyout to his contract.

    I read another article that said Rubio is trying to get out of the contract (and buyout) because he never actually signed it. He was underage (14) and his parents executed the contract. His Spanish team, DKV Joventut, has countered that without the $6.6M buyout money, they cannot hire new players and they will go bankrupt.

    So you have a guy with a $97K salary, and a $6.6M buyout? And a team that will go bankrupt without the buyout money from the $97K player? What would they have done if they hadn't been able to sign Rubio? They wouldn't have him playing for them or the buyout money? Would they already be out of business?

    And how about this article: Tim Shea, the former Knicks European scout, who is a consultant for Rubio's agency, Winners Factory, said he expects a formal offer from a Turkish club tomorrow. The offer would be about $1 million, with another $2 million going toward his $6.6M buyout with his Spanish team. The offer would decrease the likelihood of him playing in the NBA next season. An NBA team is allowed to pay just $500K, with the rest coming from Rubio's future earnings.

    So if Rubio takes the offer from the Turkish team, he will make $1M and the club will pay $2M of his buyout. Wouldn't that still leave him $3.6M in debt to Joventut, even if he hands over 100% of his salary from the Turkish team? And Joventut has already said that they can't afford to hire new players unless they get the $6.6M buyout. So does Rubio have the other $3.6M to give to them?

    It's a lot like the all the stories about Bourousis - nothing adds up.

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    Yikes, well lets just hope the spurs do want him

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    The Spurs desire to bring him over will all depend on his development.

    Thats straight from RC Buford.

    Most likely if he plays well this year in Europe, he will come over.

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    Yikes, well lets just hope the spurs do want him
    I'm sure they drafted him because they don't want him. It's the ultimate CIA Pop move!

    No, the Spurs drafted the guy and didn't trade him on draft night (a first in the last few years - See Damir Markota, Georgios Printezis, Goran Gragic) which means to me that they like him and want him as a Spur someday.

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    I believe Eurobasket 2007 had a video pass for $20 which allowed all the games to be watched live or archived. It was through MediaZone.

    Maybe the same this year?
    lol don't take it. The site was down half the time when the games were on.

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    So he is just about to sign a new 3-year contract, with buyouts? That should make for a never-ending stream of thread topics for the next three years. I wonder if his contract will be structured anything like Rubio's?

    Rubio, 18, was paid just $97,000 last season to play with his Spanish team, which wants him to remain in his homeland so much that it attached a $6.6 Million buyout to his contract.

    I read another article that said Rubio is trying to get out of the contract (and buyout) because he never actually signed it. He was underage (14) and his parents executed the contract. His Spanish team, DKV Joventut, has countered that without the $6.6M buyout money, they cannot hire new players and they will go bankrupt.

    So you have a guy with a $97K salary, and a $6.6M buyout? And a team that will go bankrupt without the buyout money from the $97K player? What would they have done if they hadn't been able to sign Rubio? They wouldn't have him playing for them or the buyout money? Would they already be out of business?

    And how about this article: Tim Shea, the former Knicks European scout, who is a consultant for Rubio's agency, Winners Factory, said he expects a formal offer from a Turkish club tomorrow. The offer would be about $1 million, with another $2 million going toward his $6.6M buyout with his Spanish team. The offer would decrease the likelihood of him playing in the NBA next season. An NBA team is allowed to pay just $500K, with the rest coming from Rubio's future earnings.

    So if Rubio takes the offer from the Turkish team, he will make $1M and the club will pay $2M of his buyout. Wouldn't that still leave him $3.6M in debt to Joventut, even if he hands over 100% of his salary from the Turkish team? And Joventut has already said that they can't afford to hire new players unless they get the $6.6M buyout. So does Rubio have the other $3.6M to give to them?

    It's a lot like the all the stories about Bourousis - nothing adds up.
    How many ing times does it take to be said? American sports media is full of .

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    How many ing times does it take to be said? American sports media is full of .
    I don't know, asshat... how many times did you have to say that Bourousis would be playing for the Spurs to make it be true?

    Almost all of the information I cited came from the Spanish media, or from Rubio's own agency in Spain. That same agency representative said today that "if the Timberwolves traded Rubio to the New York Knicks, Rubio may decide to play in the NBA next season." So if Minnesota owns his rights, he can't come play because of his contract. But if New York owns his rights? Well, then, maybe we can work something out. And you guys have the nerve to call Americans arrogant.

    A lot of fans are getting tired of their teams using draft picks on European players, because of the uncertainty and bull that comes with trying to sign them and keep them. Just check out the comments from Minnesota and Toronto fans. (More on that later.) DeColo declared for the draft, even though he had one year left on his contract. Okay. That seemed like it could be perfect timing for the Spurs - give him one more year in Europe, then bring him over.

    But now (after not going in the first round?) he is going to sign a new 3-year contract, with buyouts? Imagine what happens if he has a great season, and Hill struggles at the backup PG spot. This forum will go into absolute meltdown, after what we've been through with Scola and Splitter. Because the history of these buyouts says that there is no way we'll be able to bring him over only 1 year into his contract. And that doesn't even take Rubio into account. It turns out, his $6.6M buyout turns into an $8M buyout after June 30. That's for a player earning about $100K last season with a Spanish team. And you say that De Colo is about to sign with a Spanish team? Forgive me if I'm skeptical that we'll ever see him in silver and black.

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    I'm sure they drafted him because they don't want him. It's the ultimate CIA Pop move!

    No, the Spurs drafted the guy and didn't trade him on draft night (a first in the last few years - See Damir Markota, Georgios Printezis, Goran Gragic) which means to me that they like him and want him as a Spur someday.
    That was in response to the poster saying manu would like to play with scola in houston...

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    Pietrus should be the starting SG but he is questionable for the NT with a wrist injury. Magic's medical staff should give an answer about Pietrus availability in few days. If he is out, Nando should be the starting SG.
    Pietrus is out of the NT.

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    The article with the quote is in post #7. It came out May 27.

    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=127467
    "If the Spurs don't want me, Houston would be a good place for me"

    DOES NOT EQUATE TO

    "I would love playing in Houston with Scola"

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    Pietrus is out of the NT.
    I don't think De Colo was at the practice facility yesterday. If he's not there today, I'm guessing he won't play in summer league.

    Any idea where De Colo is at the moment?

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    "If the Spurs don't want me, Houston would be a good place for me"

    DOES NOT EQUATE TO

    "I would love playing in Houston with Scola"
    Thanks for this. Lord...

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    Any idea where De Colo is at the moment?
    No idea.

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