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    Has anyone watched The Great Global Warming Swindle yet? I had meant to buy the DVD, but have found in on YouTube. Watching it now.


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    Aren't you always complaining about propaganda?

    How is it propaganda when you disagree with it and insightful when you don't?

    and I don't even think that GW is that big a deal.

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    These aren't the droids you're looking for jman3000's Avatar
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    "you lib s and your propaganda"


    "hey... look at this great article from newsmax!"

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    Aren't you always complaining about propaganda?

    How is it propaganda when you disagree with it and insightful when you don't?

    and I don't even think that GW is that big a deal.
    Thing is, this do entary has put together the same things I have been saying for years, and more. I understand the sciences and this is not propaganda. So you understand what they say?

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    These aren't the droids you're looking for jman3000's Avatar
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    Thing is, this do entary has put together the same things I have been saying for years, and more. I understand the sciences and this is not propaganda. So you understand what they say?
    You can watch the first 30 seconds and tell it's just propaganda, just like Al Gore's movie was. Would a serious do entary resort to such childish sarcasm? I'd bet a watered down propaganda film meant for laymen conservatives to gobble up would though.

    I'm not going to pretend I know all the minutia of the science behind it because I doubt very many people do (even you). I'm for going green not because I think the polar bears are gonna die off... I'm for it because I don't want San Antonio looking like Los Angeles in the morning.

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    All I know about global warming is that that giving a bunch of money to the government will make everything better. At least according to cap & trade.

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    Matt Welch in Reason, on the widely implied *hazard* of inaction.

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    You can watch the first 30 seconds and tell it's just propaganda, just like Al Gore's movie was.
    I guess if that's all you watched, you can assume that.

    That first 30 seconds is showing the propaganda of others, and ends with "It's not true."

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    Learn more about the filmmaker from Australian (sic?) tv:

    Last edited by Winehole23; 07-03-2009 at 12:21 AM.

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    These aren't the droids you're looking for jman3000's Avatar
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    I guess if that's all you watched, you can assume that.

    That first 30 seconds is showing the propaganda of others, and ends with "It's not true."
    Obtuse is the only word that comes to mind.

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    I'm tired of all the global warming propaganda. We need to just do whatever we want, the Earth will self-correct and adapt on a cosmological timescale. Worst case is we destroy all life permanently and end up like the thousands of other barren and lifeless worlds.

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    The atmosphere only contains 3% CO2 and we humans only contribute 3% of that 3%, or 0.09%.


    That people have been led to believe that this will cause environmental catastrophe is definitlely one of the greatest swindles of all time.


    They have to pass legislation quickly before the public realizes they've been had. Just look at the global temperature anomaly of the past 10 years.


    Suckers.

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    The atmosphere only contains 3% CO2 and we humans only contribute 3% of that 3%, or 0.09%.
    This proves what?


    They have to pass legislation quickly before the public realizes they've been had. Just look at the global temperature anomaly of the past 10 years.
    Is ten years a statistically significant portion of the data?

    I wasn't aware that the question *what have you done for me lately?* clinched the argument for anti-AGW forces. What a mighty blow for your side. Kudos.

    Good thing this board has *experts* like D to help me keep my head screwed on straight. I might have been in temporary danger of having a real thought in my head, instead of just a headline.

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    Whew.

    That was close.

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    (Goes back to his regularly scheduled *Storm in a D-Cup* programming.)

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    A left wing "denier"


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    You can't win politically on the science for or against. People don't understand it.

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    Vague appeals to unstated prejudices work much better.

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    You can't win politically on the science for or against. People don't understand it.
    Or, they only pretend to.

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    You can't win politically on the science for or against. People don't understand it.
    That's why people are so easily duped. It's just too bad that the media is a willing advocate.


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    That's why people are so easily duped. It's just too bad that the media is a willing advocate.
    I feel the same way about you and your train, D. You hopped on the anti-AGW short bus, instead of the AGW short bus. Big whup.

    Even if you turn out to be completely right, the scorn you cast on others on this topic is gratuitous and completely unearned.

    A rather indifferent reader such as you has little right to call others out for lack of scientific rigor IMO.

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    I feel the same way about you and your train, D. You hopped on the anti-AGW short bus, instead of the AGW short bus. Big whup.

    Even if you turn out to be completely right, the scorn you cast on others on this topic is gratuitous and completely unearned.

    A rather indifferent reader such as you has little right to call others out for lack of scientific rigor IMO.

    I used to be on the AGW bus, but I've changed my mind based on years of researching this topic on my own.

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    Once you're convinced that the IPCC is a political organization (as well as the National Academy of Sciences), convincing yourself of anything anti-scientific is easy.

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