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  1. #26
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    More playing time
    He could have got the most money and playing time in Toronto.

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    Are you this dense? He did not get that. So knowing he would not get that, which he didn't, why choose Houston for the money he could have gotten from the Spurs, Cavs, Lakers....

    Take the Lakers out of the equation since he was not going to stay anyways, why choose Houston.
    5 year contract...come on man..think a little bit.

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    Are you this dense? He did not get that. So knowing he would not get that, which he didn't, why choose Houston for the money he could have gotten from the Spurs, Cavs, Lakers....

    Take the Lakers out of the equation since he was not going to stay anyways, why choose Houston.

    I can't think of any logical sense, re ed move by Ariza.

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    5 year contract...come on man..think a little bit.
    He had multiple offers, wtf are you talking about. The money was the same or better everywhere else for Ariza. Houston is not offering him anything money wise or years wise that he could not have gotten else where.

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    Another question: None of this is finalized as of yet. If Ariza came to the Lakers and said he would take the MLE, would they want him or would they keep Artest?

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    He had multiple offers, wtf are you talking about. The money was the same or better everywhere else for Ariza. Houston is not offering him anything money wise or years wise that he could not have gotten else where.
    links please.

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    Trevor was plan A all along,
    but his agent definitely f'd it up for him

    A source tells HOOPSWORLD that Kupchak was prepared to give Ariza an offer equivalent to the full MLE but at 10.5% raises, totaling at approximately $33.8 million over five years.

    LA's ceiling might have been a $6 million starting salary for $36 million over five but before negotiations progressed after 9:00pm Pacific on Tuesday night, the source says that Ariza's agent, David Lee, took a confrontational approach with Kupchak.

    Lee wanted a deal in the $50 million range and took offense to the team's stance that Trevor should test the market first for that level of compensation.
    http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=13174

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    There is your link above.

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    Trevor was plan A all along,
    but his agent definitely f'd it up for him


    http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=13174

    I'd consider getting a new Agent if that's true.

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    There is your link above.
    Where? I Dont see anything about 5 year offers or bigger contracts from any other teams? Please link.

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    Look at all the articles and read. It has been said he had a bigger offer (over the MLE) from Toronto, the article above said the Lakers were willing to offer him the full MLE for 5 years, and the Cavs made an offer.

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    too bad he didnt get what he deserved after those back-to-back steals against denver helping the lakers big time win a ring

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    Look at all the articles and read. It has been said he had a bigger offer (over the MLE) from Toronto, the article above said the Lakers were willing to offer him the full MLE for 5 years, and the Cavs made an offer.
    oh.....i read it...so the agent says Toronto offered a bigger deal..yah his AGENT....Eric Pincus the writer also said the Toronto deal was never confirmed. Wheres the Cavs offer? What is it?

    Cavs wouldnt offer a 5 year deal...they arnt even sure if Lebron is coming back.

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    too bad he didnt get what he deserved after those back-to-back steals against denver helping the lakers big time win a ring
    If big plays equals big money then Derek Fisher should be earning 10+ Mil


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    oh.....i read it...so the agent says Toronto offered a bigger deal..yah his AGENT....Eric Pincus the writer also said the Toronto deal was never confirmed. Wheres the Cavs offer? What is it?

    Cavs wouldnt offer a 5 year deal...they arnt even sure if Lebron is coming back.

    So you ask for a link to an article, then you do not believe it. What do you want, a copy of the offer faxed to you?

    What about the Lakers offer that was 5 years full MLE?

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    What about the Lakers offer that was 5 years full MLE?
    Like i said, the Agent wanted more. sheeesh...so Mitch was like...then GTFO while i sign Artest.

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    Like i said, the Agent wanted more. sheeesh...so Mitch was like...then GTFO while i sign Artest.
    Like you said he wanted more, but signed for the same amount.

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    If getting what he deserves means getting 33 mil in Houston I definitely would love to get that punishment. I don't know full details of what actually went down. Was LA really willing to offer him that money or like its been mentioned in other threads that they wanted Artest all along thus he was never going to get that money from LA anyways. He couldn't have gone to the spurs because they need a big and there is no way they would have blown the MLE on him so eliminate the spurs from the equation. Essentially it comes down to Houston and Cleveland whereas the future is uncertain in Cleveland. If Lebron leaves Cleveland next summer that would leave Trevor stuck in a craphole for several years. Financailly Trevor is going to be fine I don't think he will be crying tommorow morning he has 33 million reasons to get up plus real estate is a lot cheaper in Houston then LA so he probably saved some money in that aspect.

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    Like you said he wanted more, but signed for the same amount.
    Exactly why the Agent ed this one over. What the heck are we arguing over again?

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    No, everyone thinks you're ing stupid.

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    4 Ariza threads on the first page. SAD.

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    I loved this guy as a Laker but he gets no sympathy from me for what his agent did to his career. He gainfully employed this guy and fully deserves what he got coming to him.

    It didn't make any sense to me why Kupchak would dump Ariza like a sack of rocks and jump ship to Artest once free agency began. Kupchak is very conservative and I know he was willing to give Ariza the contract he deserved, which was slightly above the MLE. Ariza's greed and money hungry agent thought they could play hardball and force Mitch into paying him significantly more and the whole thing ended up backfiring in his face. Now Ariza is stuck on a ty HOU team going into rebuild mode while he watches his hometown team likely make it back to the Finals.

    He just learned a very valuable business lesson. Don't with Buss.

    http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=13174
    Man everybody hates you

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    Lakers fan are the most sorry fairweather fan ever. I feel bad for Ariza, save the laker ass on so many occasion, and now you're taking a dump on him. Kobe is not immortal he will decline, your laker gonna suck, then hop on the nuts of whatever team lebron is on.

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    How did Ariza get what he deserves? The job of the agent is to get their clients long-term deals and to try to get the most value for their client as possible. Him just saying "yeah Ariza will sign for the MLE no problem" would of been totally re ed and he would have no clients. Ariza tested the waters and didn't make it out any worse financially and that is all that matters. He had a chance for more cash and went for it -- anyone else here would of done the same.

    All that matters is that you get what you could of gotten or higher. Lakers had the MLE and he ended up with the MLE, he won. His agent would of been stupid if no one wanted him and he pulled a latrell spreewell "gotta feed my family" deal. But that isn't what happened.

    Ariza and his agent made the best choice in Ariza's financial interest, just like the Lakers made the best choice financially with Artest at MLE. It's a business people.

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    How did Ariza get what he deserves? The job of the agent is to get their clients long-term deals and to try to get the most value for their client as possible. Him just saying "yeah Ariza will sign for the MLE no problem" would of been totally re ed and he would have no clients. Ariza tested the waters and didn't make it out any worse financially and that is all that matters. He had a chance for more cash and went for it -- anyone else here would of done the same.

    All that matters is that you get what you could of gotten or higher. Lakers had the MLE and he ended up with the MLE, he won. His agent would of been stupid if no one wanted him and he pulled a latrell spreewell "gotta feed my family" deal. But that isn't what happened.

    Ariza and his agent made the best choice in Ariza's financial interest, just like the Lakers made the best choice financially with Artest at MLE. It's a business people.

    Bro, the Lakers threw the same money that Houston did. The ~ of a full MLE. Jesus...

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