Unfortunately...
I think he falls a bit short without the championship.
1 MVP
3 Pro Bowls
not quite enough but definitely the college football hall of fame![]()
I would love for to go.....
he at the least should be put into the college football hall of fame
Unfortunately...
I think he falls a bit short without the championship.
1 MVP
3 Pro Bowls
not quite enough but definitely the college football hall of fame![]()
I say he gets in. He and Jim Kelly have fairly comparable numbers, and Kelly is in.
The difference is that Kelly took his team to four SBs.
You must only have looked at passing yardage, which is kind of close, if you consider 28th all-time close to 15th all-time. The co-MVP and 30 more rushing touchdowns aren't enough to get him within shouting distance of Kelly. I don't think there's any way he makes the hall of fame.
And still wound up with the same amount of rings as McNair.
Kelly had more TD passes, McNair had far fewer INT's. Both played almost exactly the same amount of games with close to the same amount of pass attempts. McNair's combined Pass/Rush TD's comes pretty close to Kelly's.
If you want to go contrary to everything I say just for the sake of it, go right ahead because it makes you look like an even bigger dumbass than you actually are![]()
Geez, dude, get over yourself. Disagreeing with you hardly makes anyone a dumbass.
Well you're the dumbass that thinks Jim Kelly getting curbstomped a load of times in the SB suddenly makes him far superior to McNair. No surprises here.
I'm inclined to agree. If McNair does make it, it won't be in his first year of eligibility like Kelly.
sons he was a great player, but no hall of famer
McNair had 30 more rushing TDs, so their total TDs are close (if you consider 244 to 211 close). The day having fewer career interceptions than a hall of famer becomes the primary criterion for judging someone worthy of the hall of fame, McNair's a cinch to get in.
Games played:
Kelly 160
McNair 161
Super Bowls
Kelly 4
McNair 1
Pro Bowls
Kelly 5
McNair 3
Times in top ten in completions
Kelly 7
McNair 2
Times in top ten in passing yards
Kelly 6 (never lower than eighth)
McNair 2 (never higher than tenth)
Times in top ten in passing TD
Kelly 9 (led once)
McNair 3
Times in top ten in passer rating
Kelly 7 (led once)
McNair 2 (led once)
Times in top ten in yards per attempt
Kelly 8
McNair 2 (led once)
PS Get the over yourself. If you can't have a discussion without thinking it's personal then don't bother bringing your lame bull in here. And if you don't want someone to go contrary on you then maybe you should make arguments that aren't so ing easy to dismantle.
Last edited by Obstructed_View; 07-06-2009 at 06:58 AM.
College? yes (should have won the Heisman), Pro? Sadly no. Just not enough numbers. That is no disrespect to the man, he had a good career and was taken from us way too soon.
Seeing how QB's have faired after winning the Heisman, it's probably better that he didn't win that coveted award.
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