Big Baby to San Antonio? Grant Hill to Boston?

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Maybe they called Dice and he said no thanks, what do you do then?

Then you call Pachulia, then you call Splitter, then I guess you start thinking about Davis.

Why would Dice say no without meeting with us though? We can offer him a starting role, the MLE (about 2mil/yr more than Detroit can offer), a great lockerroom and a shot at a ring. I still reckon we're working on Dice.

[timvp]

Hopefully Big Baby will be at Disneyland by this time next season.

[DPG21920]

Gortat was about Spurs fan ing themselves over a player who didn't help his team push the Lakers. The Magic had to leave their top horses on the court to defeat a Celtics team in 7 games with Davis playing heavy minutes.

I understand that and I am not saying Gortat is going to be great. The point was that it is not about names. It is about filling perceived needs:

1) Role player comfortable not getting shots, but run the floor and crash the boards and do the dirty work. Be ready to shoot if you can. Obviously a better offensive player is better, but not the number 1 goal.

2) A very good defensive player with some length and ability to alter shots and/or get blocks. Help Tim man the paint.

Davis is not a bad player, he is just not what the Spurs need in a major role next to Duncan in many people's opinions. I do not mind him on the team, but I do not think he is the best fit like you eluded to (saying there is no one out there in FA that fits..)

[buttsR4rebounding]

Then what is the 2010 plan?

Dude, haven't you been paying attention? RJ is the 2010 plan. There is no longer a 2010 plan. Don't ask about it anymore already.

[ElNono]

I don't have a problem with McDyess. I think he would fit the Spurs well. But you're not going to find anyone in free agency who can play at TD's level defensively.

And I don't think we're looking for that. At the same time, I think you can find somebody that plays at a respectable level. The dropoff when TD came out was so significant that we had to overplay him in order to win games, and that took a toll. Right now, we're on the exact same situation looking at next season.

[DPG21920]

Hopefully Big Baby will be at Disneyland by this time next season.

is this going the direction you did when Finley re-upped?

[HarlemHeat37]

I never said Duncan can't anchor a defense anymore..he's still one of the best defenders in the NBA..but he's going to be 34 years old in the playoffs..he can no longer make up for the other big man next to him, it's just impossible at his age..he's still our best player and anchor, but I don't see how he can carry our team like he used to..

look at KG..they have Perkins next to him, one of the best defenders in the NBA..probably the best defensive role player big man in the entire league..

[DPG21920]

Spurs do not need the next defensive player of the year, just someone solid. Nothing spectacular, but like a Foster or Collison or ....

[HarlemHeat37]

Camby? Haslem? I'm thinking of players that can actually help anchoring the interior D.

I thought of Camby too, but I don't think it's realistic..Clippers have no reason to do it..

Haslem would be interesting if Miami is looking to dump him, but I'm not sure that they are..

[SouthTexasRancher]

Antonio McDyess has just been removed from the Detroit Pistons roster over on Yahoo: NBA. Glern Davis is still showing up on Boston's roster. McDyess's name was there an hour ago. And Fab is still listed. I thought Detroit released him Friday???

Hmmm, R.C. do you have something you would like to tell us Spurs fans?

28 Afflalo, Arron SG 6-5 215 10/15/85 2 UCLA
38 Brown, Kwame FC 6-11 270 3/10/82 8 None
12 Bynum, Will G 6-0 185 1/4/83 4 Georgia Tech
Daye, Austin F 6-11 200 6/5/88 R Gonzaga
32 Hamilton, Richard GF 6-7 193 2/14/78 10 Connecticut
Jerebko, Jonas F 6-9 220 3/2/87 R
54 Maxiell, Jason FC 6-7 260 2/18/83 4 Cincinnati
7 Oberto, Fabricio C 6-10 250 3/21/75 4 None
22 Prince, Tayshaun F 6-9 215 2/28/80 7 Kentucky
42 Sharpe, Walter F 6-9 245 7/16/86 1 UAB
3 Stuckey, Rodney G 6-5 205 4/21/86 2 Eastern Washington
Summers, DaJuan F 6-8 236 R Georgetown

[DPG21920]

LOL..DPG isn't making many friends today..

just in this thread. Many agree with me, but no one else is talking as much.

I am just serious about this basketballz. MB and I are friends (at least on ST).

[Marcus Bryant]

Then you call Pachulia, then you call Splitter, then I guess you start thinking about Davis.

Why would Dice say no without meeting with us though? We can offer him a starting role, the MLE (about 2mil/yr more than Detroit can offer), a great lockerroom and a shot at a ring. I still reckon we're working on Dice.

Yeah, the basic assumption here is that Wallace and/or McDyess wanted to join the Spurs.

Further, as you point out, the Spurs can pursue a trade or they could pull Splitter out of a hat. If part of the reason (other than personal or financial) why Splitter didn't join the team last summer was that he wouldn't be given an opportunity to start, perhaps the Spurs will offer that to him now. It would make some sense that they went after Wallace and McDyess, were told no, and are now on to plan C, which, of course, may end up being the best option after all.

[ElNono]

I thought of Camby too, but I don't think it's realistic..Clippers have no reason to do it..

Other than to dump his salary... something the Clippers always seem inclined to do.

Haslem would be interesting if Miami is looking to dump him, but I'm not sure that they are..

Well, that's what trading is all about. We have a bunch of young kids now with potential that Miami might be interested in. You call, you ask and see what happens.

[Ditty]

I thought of Camby too, but I don't think it's realistic..Clippers have no reason to do it..

Haslem would be interesting if Miami is looking to dump him, but I'm not sure that they are..

i think camby might not like the fact of coming off the bench next season behind kaman and griffen

expiring contract vs expiring contracts and veterans that can put 10 points a game(bonner and finley) is reasonable IMO

[scottspurs]

Nah, the first reason is that most fans respond to names. The second is that fans see the motive behind personnel moves as attempting to construct an all-star or fantasy league team instead of trying to construct a championship team. On a championship team, you need role players who fit, not statistical juggernauts at every position.

Yeah

[DPG21920]

If there is a trade in the works or someone like Splitter is coming in, then fine. But then do you think Davis is the best option for the MLE at that point? Wouldn't a wing be better? Under no cir stances do I see Davis as the best option or even close to the top option for the MLE. If the Spurs are just striking out, that is one thing. If he is all they can grab, ok.

[polandprzem]

Is Big baby our mobile PF/C?

[Mugen]

we aren't getting Dice.

The Big Baby Era in SA is about to begin.

[MaNu4Tres]

I thought of Camby too, but I don't think it's realistic..Clippers have no reason to do it..

Haslem would be interesting if Miami is looking to dump him, but I'm not sure that they are..

Maybe if you included a 1st round pick, Mason and Bonner?

They have Eric Gordon/ Al Thornton/ Q richardson at the wing. Mason would help them by being the 3rd/4th wing in the rotation. Clippers could consider a 1st round pick as valuable regardless if its a late first round pick , for the fact that Camby will be gone next year. Then Bonner would be probably the best big off the bench for them. You could even throw in Mahimni. But would that be too much from the Spurs?

[Cant_Be_Faded]

If the Lakers were not decked out with length and rebounding dominance, Big Baby would be a solid option for a role player. Lakers have made the finals two years in a row. Every team in the West needs to be building to beat them. And I do not see Big Baby making us better against them.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Camby's contract is only 7.65mil, and it's expiring. Camby for Bonner and Finley (and probably a pick) would work, but I don't see enough in it for the Clippers.

The way I see it right now:
1. Davis is bull (see my posts throught the early-mid part of the thread for why), not happening.
2. Dice is the current target - he fits all our needs and is very gettable as Detroit can only offer him about 4mil per.
3. Splitter is a maybe - Pop is in Europe, seems a of a coincidence.
4. If everything falls through, maybe a trade of Finley and Bonner for Camby with a couple of picks thrown in to get it done (Haislip looks like Bonner's replacement).

And even after all that I'm glad we didn't pay Gortat 32mil, and I'm glad we didn't ink a fading Sheed (revisit this in February when you'll be seeing just how far Sheed's ability has fallen over the last 18 months).

[Mugen]

Camby's contract is only 7.65mil, and it's expiring. Camby for Bonner and Finley (and probably a pick) would work, but I don't see enough in it for the Clippers.

The way I see it right now:
1. Davis is bull (see my posts throught the early-mid part of the thread for why), not happening.
2. Dice is the current target - he fits all our needs and is very gettable as Detroit can only offer him about 4mil per.
3. Splitter is a maybe - Pop is in Europe, seems a of a coincidence.
4. If everything falls through, maybe a trade of Finley and Bonner for Camby with a couple of picks thrown in to get it done (Haislip looks like Bonner's replacement).

And even after all that I'm glad we didn't pay Gortat 32mil, and I'm glad we didn't ink a fading Sheed (revisit this in February when you'll be seeing just how far Sheed's ability has fallen over the last 18 months).
3. If not Dice,

The sooner you tell yourself that Big Baby is coming and Dice isn't, the easier it is to digest.

that's what i am doing.

[MaNu4Tres]

Camby's contract is only 7.65mil, and it's expiring. Camby for Bonner and Finley (and probably a pick) would work, but I don't see enough in it for the Clippers.

Replace Mason for Finley and it just might work. They are thin at the wing as it is. And Mason has more value then Finley to get the deal done. Then we could use the MLE on a wing to compete for the starting wing spot alongside Richard Jefferson with Manu coming off the bench.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

The sooner you tell yourself that Big Baby is coming and Dice isn't, the easier it is to digest.

that's what i am doing.

Based on what exactly, one twit's vague tweet which has been adopted as fact by Fox news? C'mon.

When the Spurs say something about Davis is when I'll believe it.

[HarlemHeat37]

Does Camby for Bonner/Williams/Finley work?..I guess it's possible that the Clippers would do it if we threw in a 1st round pick, but that isn't a lock at all..the other option would be if Camby asks for a trade..it's not like he's helping them win anything..