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If he could grab 6-10 rebounds and block a few shots a night in the NBA, he'd be here already.
lets just call him plan C. what do we got to lose? i mean if the dude can block a few shots a night and grab 6-10 rebounds, wouldnt he be useful. its now or never for this guy. i bet we could get him cheap. who cares if he scores. we have 4 other starters that can score plenty. doesnt he owe us? i thought the spurs payed for his surgery. give him a one year deal. if we won 50 plus games with bonner, im sure we can find a use for this guy.
If he could grab 6-10 rebounds and block a few shots a night in the NBA, he'd be here already.
he has a big ass deal in russia no way he will come over
he was a waste of a pick and would of been here like 5 years ago if it wasnt for the mortacycle accident
I hate to be mean... but javtokas will never play for the Spurs so no need in ever revisiting him coming over.
In the year 2051, there will be a very old man who, along with other rambling thoughts, mystifies his old age home attendants with these daily questions: Will Javtokas come now?! Have you seen Javtokas? Is Javtokas here?!
good point. kori you are right as always. thanks for gracing me with your wisdom.
you were against signing G. Davis but would rather sign R. Javotkas?!?!?!
sure why not. five times cheaper. makes sense to me. you dont agree?
No, he doesn't. He's a free agent now according to the most recent reports I've read.
I agree that he'll never play for the Spurs
And if Luis Scola could play at the NBA level and had a managable buyout the Spurs would have had offers of 1st round picks.
I'm not sure what Scola has to do with it. Scola was a very good player in Europe. Javtokas isn't (unless he has changed dramatically since the last time I watched him ... last year or so), so I can't imagine he could pull down 8 rebounds and get 2 blocks a night in the NBA.
lol i knew you would chime in objective. i know its a one in a million shot. but it has to be at least looked at at this point. do you think he could produce and be a better bargain than alot of these bigs we keep talking about using the MLE on? couldnt we offer him alot less?
So you ignore my point. People used to say around here and other parts that if Scola was so good then the Spurs would get offers for him of at least a 1st. Case closed.
I like Javtokas. I don't think Javtokas will ever play in the NBA. I think he could be had cheaper than most of the players talked about (Wallace, McDyess, ZaZa, even BB and Bass). I think he could play a role of rebounding, shot-contesting, pick setting, finishing strong at the basket. He shot 72% from 2 in the eurocup with 12 points a game (and those points weren't from free throws, lol).
As long as he's playing, his rights are held by the Spurs, it's an offseason and he might vaguely fit the generic need of 'big man', he's worth talking about.
He's as likely as Sergei Karaulov. So... no.
fair enough. what is it that makes you think he will never play in the nba? is it his family. i've read that his wife would rather stay overseas. i know he was injured and thats why he didnt come over sooner. after he started playing ball again is it fair to say that the spurs have been evaluating him ever since waiting till his contract ran out. also why is he not signed with another team yet. whats he waiting for?
Javtokas could be decent. Or he could be a worse version of Elson.
We'll probably never know for sure. Even if he were a totally free agent, I don't really think anyone would have brought him over following the motorcycle accident. He's never really stood out in a major way. He's garnered a lot of his notoriety as being Spurs property and being good ... but I've never heard of him independently being called one of the best players in Europe.
Now if he wouldn't have gotten smashed in the motorcycle accident, I think he would have been brought over a long time ago.
Him not playing in the NBA won't have anything to do with his ability to produce, at least for a couple more years.
I don't think he'll play in the NBA because the Spurs don't want him, simple as that.
As far as why he isn't signed with another team yet, he still has time to shake things out. MTA and Zalgiris have been rumored to like him in the last 2 weeks, so who knows?
that a mighty fine line to walk there sir. you think the crash made him loose a step that bad? he didnt look too bad back in china. i think our system and our defensive rotation hide alot of players defensive weaknesses. if he can hustle and jump higher than his offensive assignment, wouldnt he look alot better with us? even if he cant block 2 shots a game im sure he can at least alter a few and thats just as good.
ok that makes sense. if pickings get slim, i would think it would be less about what the spurs want and more about what we need and can afford. why settle.
I am so confused about the Spurs bigman plan as of right now. Yes we wanted them to get younger, but needs must be met. Javtokas might be decent in comparison to the current bigs, but it seems like there is no real interest.
He is still a decent athlete, but man the guy was a freak before the accident.
Javtokas is better suited to the NBA game. He can't score on his own and can't shoot. He has a rudimentary hook shot and primitive post moves that don't cut it in europe, he's the an hesis of the euro-big. Maybe not too surprising considering he went to high school in America if I remember right.
His lack of offensive game got him doghoused in PAO as speculated by DX.
He's a limited use guy. I had several other players I'd rather the Spurs signed than him this summer and some are still around, so it's not like I'm crazy about him.
compare his current game to a current nba big. who does he look like skillwise/mobilitywise.
Biedrins, but not sure if he would be as effective.
i guess you mean in the spurs system at least.
Overall. Biedrins, while not the most skilled is pretty effective (runs well, good hands, good finisher around the rim, pretty good rebounder, decent defender although he is kind of weak and fouls).
Not sure if Javtokas is quite as good as him (it would probably take some time and then that would be a pretty high ceiling for him)
a poor man's Biedrins would be a good comparison.
Older, slower, stronger. Same brutal free throws. Not as good a rebounder or shotblocker at this point in his career, but he can still send people to the hospital.
Biedrins is a starting caliber big of at least 30 minutes a game.
Javtokas would only be a starter if no one else was good enough (like Elson in 07), but still probably limited to 20 minutes a game.
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