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lakers think there getting a ron artest in his prime and thinking they actually got better
old lol 24 year old ariza>a 29 year old artest i wouldn't be talking old to a guy that already reached his peak 3 years ago and a guy yall lsot who is heading towards his peak
and about the spurs it dosent bother me too much of course rasheed would of made us defintly better than LA minus odom who i dont think will come back IMO because he wants to be selfish a get paid which is a good thing
us adding mdyess will defintly make us a good as the lakers minus odom again
well see what hapens
anybody with a brain can see L.A got better
Stop acting as if Artest is old...guy will be 30 this year and is coming off a 17, 5 and 3 year...the guy is still a elite defender and can score. Artest is going to be a very good player in L.A...
but yall are sure getting a hard on about about this guy over a younger more athletic ariza...artest in nothing but a good defender now and had his best defensive and offensive days behind him..artest was the second best player on the team and averaged 17 points a gameartest shot 40% this year which is okay but one of the worst percentages he has shot in his carreer..artest is a good pick up but dosent make the lakers better than last year but about the same e ally if this causes odom to walk they'll not be as good as last year, which laker fans seem not to believe will happen
Ehhh...i like the deal too, but Artest is Top 10-15, not top 5. Ariza is Top 25-30
this is true but he is an old 30. he has 2 partially torn ligaments in his right ankle likely from wear and tear of playing on concrete too much. i loved artest's toughness in houston (and i ing hate him for leaving to go to your team) but toughness can only last so long before you break down. artest hasn't exactly had the healthiest career in the world. he has missed almost 16 games a year on average and has missed nearly 20 games a year over the past 4 years.
like i said in another thread...if phil can somehow only get ron to take 3 threes a game and take the rest of his shots within 15 feet or posting up then he will be awesome. if not then you guys will have a problem with him disrupting the offense. i think ariza is a better fit for you guys since he won't dominate the ball and artest is a better fit for us with yao and tracy out.
btw nice thread derail spursowntexas
Lebron
Pierce
Iguodala
Melo
Granger
and then some!
Odom is not leaving, it isn't possible no.but yall are sure getting a hard on about about this guy over a younger more athletic ariza...artest in nothing but a good defender now and had his best defensive and offensive days behind him..artest was the second best player on the team and averaged 17 points a game
Artest shot 40% from three...pretty damn good to me.
Artest is more than just a good defender..He is ELITE...he isn't what he was defensively but he is still damn good.
Lakers will be clearly better than last past year...a healthly Bynum makes that for certain.
Spurs fans wanted him, but I don't know why he prefers to come off the bench, when he could have been a starter elsewhere.
LeBron
Pierce
Turkoglu
Granger
Wallace
Jefferson
Butler
Anthony
Howard
Jackson
Gay
Durant
I would take all of those guys on my team before Ron Artest.
And Ariza
About Rasheed. I dont think he will help the Celtics as much as he would have helped the Spurs. But since the Spurs didnt land him, ill take it as a blessing in disguise.
Except for the bolded one, I agree.
Delusional Spurs fan thinking Jefferson is better than Artest
San Antonio's perimeter defense is going to so ing atrocious. Parker, Manu and RJ
not trolling or being bitter but i truly believe ariza is a better fit for you guys and artest a better fit for us. artest will take over the offense and become a black hole. his defense is still top notch but he can't guard faster perimeter players like he used to be able to but he can guard post guys better now since he is bigger. also let's not forget this guy has missed nearly 20 games a year over the past 4 years and he has 2 partially torn ligaments in his right ankle basically from wear and tear. i'm still pissed that he left but i honestly believe his offensive game will not operate in harmony with the offense you guys have now.Delusional Spurs fan thinking Jefferson is better than Artest
San Antonio's perimeter defense is going to so ing atrocious. Parker, Manu and RJ
Artest was FORCED to take over the Houston offense. He won't have to in LA and
Other than that Artest has a good post game. Phil Jackson is 10 times the coach Aldeman is. Artest will be utilized based on matchups and when his number isn't being called all he has to do is stand in the corner and hit wide open three pointers. Something Artest is very good at.
Artest won't have to guard the faster perimeter players, silly. That's what Kobe is for. Artest just needs to worry about Melo, Lebron, Pierce and
There is not 1 team in the NBA that wouldn't benefit from the addition of Rasheed Wallace, including the Pistons and the Celtics. Pistons don't have the MLE, besides the fact that Rasheed's purpose here was blurred in 2005 when Corliss was traded away.
Rasheed will be a very nice addition to the Celtics. He is good insurance for KG. He will spread the floor on Ray-Ray's off nights (and there are many). His post-man defense is still top 5 (and to be honest, probably top 2, but I can't think of every single PF right now).
I wish him luck.
so four perimeter guys and KG in the middle? They gonna run Orlando's offense?
The ing with calls against the Celts at home will be off the charts.
Wallace is a maniac. He's sobered up for one gd series in his career, against the Lakers in '04 (right after .4 {tee, hee}.
He went so far in that series as to mentor the other hotheads on the Pistons to settle down and not get technicals. Can ya imagine it?
He did show up twice a year thru his Detroit stint though. Always vs the Lakers. You couldn't drag his worthless rump off that arc until the Lakers were the opponent. Then? Right down into the paint he'd jockey. Jesus Christ, Detroit beat us in December (I believe) of '08 and went into a 7 month tailspin thereafter. It was rich!
Phil Jackson disagrees.
Pretty sure that game was in November. I think the Lakers were 7-0, so no way that was in December.
I think it makes them better. They have insurance behind KG now. If he goes down again, it's better to have him than Mikki Moore as a backup power forward.
If KG is healthy, Rasheed Wallace is not overly exerted being the next PJ Brown.
Thirdly, Orlando has had fits with Detroit. The defending Conference Champions have especially had trouble getting Dwight Howard off because of Wallace. It makes sense for them to try and get him.
Ok, November, December, no diff. The point is Detroit was one of a myriad of teams who strove to beat the Lakers and then immediately went on extended losing streaks.
And as long as were on the subject one of the worst offenders of this Laker concentration was f'in Artest. I hate to talke treason about a current Lakers, but for Christsakes, that SOB would take the game off before the Lakers game just so he could rest up. He'd go like 46 mins, 13/22, 12 and 3 with 3 steals and 2 blocks. Next game? 22 mins, 2/9, 2 and 0 with 0 steals, 0 blocks and 5 TOs.
you are an idiot if you think they have similar player profiles.davis is a scrappy intireor PF who cant ing shoot the broad side of a ing barn. dumb as toast, davis cant rebound either. his one upside is that he seems to know what hes doing with the shot clock winding down. im not talking about his shot against orlando, im talking about his moving screens. as much as i hated that, thats what KT did, although less obvious. its necessary. i still dont support this because hes dumb, hes an LSU player and hes a big that cant rebound.
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