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    http://www.nba.com/2009/news/feature....johnson.folo/

    Detroit has already lost Rasheed Wallace in free agency to rival Boston, and won't be bringing back fellow veterans Allen Iverson and Antonio McDyess.

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    We should be fine if Bowen comes back.
    I'd prefer hairston and maybe Gist in the regular season, then a 3 man rotation at the 2/3 in the playoffs, RJ's good for 40, Mason and Manu can have 28.

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    The same way I wanted Kevin Willis to win one in 03', and Fin in 07', I want to get Dyess his ring this year. Come on Dyess....come get in the silver & black!

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    Backup SF isn't at all a problem. RJ plays tons of minutes, Fin can play some minutes or Spurs can play with a 3 guard lineup.

    Even if Spurs get Dice, the main "issue" will be at PF/C.

    With Shaq now in the East, is there really a lot of need to have a bang it up center?

    I think if we added some more length and quickness at the position that it might help more.

    If we end up getting McDyess, that would help solve some depth issues, but I agree there still would be a need in the middle.

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    DICE!!!!!!! ive always been a fan of his. pretty exciting news if true!!

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    Moon isn't going to get over a million though is he? The only one of the two I have heard contract wise is Carney and he said he wants above the minimum. Moon however is likely to leave the Heat due to salary cap issues.
    If we used the LLE on Haislip and the MLE on McDyess or some other big man, then the most we can offer Moon is a minimum contract, which is less than his qualifying offer from the Heat. If we still have the LLE available, we would be able to offer Moon more than his $1 million QO, but the Heat would be able to match if they want to. Like you said, they have cap issues so they might not match, but the fact that they extended him the QO means that they at least have SOME interest in bringing him back.

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    PG Parker - Hill - McClinton
    SG Mason - Ginobili - Hairston
    SF Jefferson - Bowen - Gist
    PF McDyess - Haislip - Blair
    C Duncan - Mahinmi - (Trade maybe for Bonner and Finley )

    I hope the roster looks something like this, but I know its way to early to project a lineup Im very bored. Hopefully we could get Collison with a trade. I hope Bowen comes back but reports say otherwise.
    You know..
    I really f*cking hate when people set up "projected" rosters..
    It's like an automatic jinx.
    I'll blame you if we don't get Dice.

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    You know..
    I really f*cking hate when people set up "projected" rosters..
    It's like an automatic jinx.
    I'll blame you if we don't get Dice.
    at least Im not thinking this is final its just my wish.

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    This is very good news! I wanted McDyess to join the team last season but it didn't happen.

    This means that Gooden is not part of the Spurs' plans.

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    Shoupd this come to fruition, I'd argue that theSpurs best play is to hang on to assets like Bonner's expiring deal, take a portion of the season to assess what games identify as the greatest weaknesses and have some ability to move to correct them in season. That, however, ignores the realities of the tax situation and the likelihood that the Spurs would prefer to reduce their liability now instead of risking exposure later.

    With that said, I prefer McDyess to Wallace on a production basis and think the Spurs' best play all along in FA was to try to land McDyess. No character issues, a productive rebounder, a guy who is a willing teammate, and someone who's been near the top but is hungry to summit the mountain.

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    a few have mentioned moon, i think moon is a big no here. hes one of those guys that are overly concerned with stats. despite his defensive numbers hes not a great defender. many toronto fans have complained about how he does take cares and gambles too much. we should stay away from him.

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    But say McDyess only takes 4.5 million of the MLE. We still have 1.1 million to spend correct? Or would we have to wait to use that?
    We could use it immediately, but if McDyess is our current #1 target, and Orlando has an offer of 2 years at the full MLE on the table, why would we low-ball him?

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    I have been told that Bowen is looking less likely to return this season. The Bucks would like to have some vet leadership and possibly a trading chip come the trade deadline.
    For the Bucks, maybe saving 2 million > getting vet leadership from Bowen. I have a feeling that the Bucks will waive him, but Pop may not want him back.

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    Dice to SA.

    I'll believe it when it happens.

    For now, I'm going to box up my excitement of signing a key big in FA.

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    Filling in with a decent small forward back up who is athletic and can rebound/defend/shoot a bit would be better than settling for a 3 guard line up.
    If you want to give a decent playing time to Hill and Mason, you had to play a little with a 3 guard lineup. I rather give more playing to Mason and Hill than to a very average SF.

    And if Spurs got Dice, Spurs bench at PF/C are players (Mahinmi, Blair and Haislip) who have played 23 minutes in the NBA since 2005 and a player (Bonner) who has been horrible during the last playoffs. It's by far a biggest problem than the backup SF.

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    The only reason he got 10 and 10 is because he got 30 minutes a game last year. Will he get that much PT next year? I highly doubt it. Therefore 8 and 8 sounds more realistic. He's still the best FA big out there in FA. Therefore I'm all for it.

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    Get Dice!

    If the Spurs pick him up for the MLE, this will be 3rd best off season in Spurs history (outside of drafting Duncan and Robinson).

    In retrospect, he's a the MUCH better fit than Sheed. Ironically, if Dice comes to the Spurs, then that will mean both Dice and Sheed both went to teams that fit their personality VERY WELL: Sheed in a winning but fiery team in Boston, Dice to a winning yet calm and profession in the Spus.

    I agree that if the Spus land Dice, then that no more trades (unless it was the steal of the century) should take place until during the season, because you'd need time to access the teams strenths and weaknesses.

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    If the Spurs get Dice I think they may call it an off season. Sure, they'll be open to any offers but they might want to hold on to the expring contracts they have now.

    It's possible they roll with a couple players in backup roles that know the system instead of bringing in even more new blood. Speaking of Finley and Bonner instead of Carney or Moon or Gist and so on.

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    i always wanted Dice to get a ring so hopefully this is true so it can happen

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    There is still questions of if half our front line players are too young or studs. Ian, Gist, Blair and Haislip could be a good role players or could be at the end of the bench. As of now it is too hard to tell.
    We should have the start of an answer for Gist, Blair and Mahinmi during SL.

    IMO, Spurs FO will look closely at two things during SL:
    - Are the young bigs good enough to not make a trade for another big ?
    - Is there a defensive minded wing good enough to be signed ?

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    Finley and Bonner for Adam Morrison...

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    Finley and Bonner for Adam Morrison...

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    Joking aside, Glad to get McD, I don't think the front office will move Bonner till they see the way some of these new players work in the system.

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    Bonner did average 8&5 in 24 minutes per game with 50% FG and 44% from 3. But McDyess should improve the rebounding and defense with the same time.

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    Finley and Bonner for Adam Morrison...
    Finley and Bonner for Shane Battier?

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