Spurs leading race to sign McDyess...

[poeticism707]

Joking aside, Glad to get McD, I don't think the front office will move Bonner till they see the way some of these new players work in the system.

Agreed: if they get Dice, then there should be no more moves until at least mid-season, if any, to evaluate the Spurs team.

[kobyz]

McDyess is a quality player, i have doubts if he the right fit... Orlando is a strog possibility for him.

[SPURSGOAT]

pffft!! doesn't mean a damn thing... we were the front runners for Maggette too...

[bishopospurs]

Shane or James Posey would be good pickups

[picnroll]

Backup SF isn't at all a problem. RJ plays tons of minutes, Fin can play some minutes or Spurs can play with a 3 guard lineup.

Even if Spurs get Dice, the main "issue" will be at PF/C.

Won't know until Spurs see Blair, Haislip and Mahinmi play how their bigman situation is. With what they're paying for Haislip it's likely his playing time to loose.

I agree with FromWayDownTown that Spurs could and should hold on to their tradeable assests until they see where their needs are and teams out of the playoffs are looking to shed players. If Spurs need a big then they can go after a guy like Collsion maybe.

[Mugen]

ill reserve my happiness til he signs his name on the contract.

[Marcus Bryant]

McDyess would be a great fit.

[Libri]

And if Spurs got Dice, Spurs bench at PF/C are players (Mahinmi, Blair and Haislip) who have played 23 minutes in the NBA since 2005 and a player (Bonner) who has been horrible during the last playoffs. It's by far a biggest problem than the backup SF.

There are to many unknowns for the Spurs bench at PF/C. Who can the Spurs bring in to add some experience at those positions?

[bishopospurs]

If he doesn't sign how do people feel about trading for Samuel Dalembert? It would take Mason and he underachieves, so I would pass, but I was just curious. 2 year 23 mil left, he is 28 I believe.

[Roscoe and the Body]

I expect McDyess to sign with with Spurs within the day. Dumars hired John Kuester today, and in his explanation of why he didn't hire Avery Johnson Teflon Joe had this to say -

"Where we are right now as a team is kind of like where we were at the start of the Rick Carlisle era," Dumars said. "And a $4 to $5 million (a year) coach is not what we need right now. We didn't have one of those until we were close to contending for a championship when we got Larry (Brown)."

Basically saying we're not contenders so there is no need to spend for a good coach. Instead we'll hire a placeholder/seatwarmer while Dumars rebuilds the roster and when Joe feels Detroit is ready to compete again he'll fire Kuester (who was signed to a two years deal with a TO 3rd year) and bring in a "real" coach.

Dice was torn between Detroit and San Antonio, however I can't see him possibly heading back to Detroit after this hire.

[Mugen]

If you ask me we learned with Hill that summer league doesn't mean too much. George played better in his first NBA game than he did the entire summer leauge. Also players who have dominated summer league the last few year have not done nearly as well. I think it will take at least a dozen games into the season for the Spurs to make a trade unless an outstanding offer happens. It seems that the contenders are going "all in" and the rest of the NBA is offering their best players for the slary dump.

agreed. george was terrible in summer league. Marco Bellinelli of the warriors was a stud a couple of seasons back and hasnt seen much of the court since.

SL is overrated.

[poeticism707]

I expect McDyess to sign with with Spurs within the day. Dumars hired John Kuester today, and in his explanation of why he didn't hire Avery Johnson Teflon Joe had this to say -


Basically saying we're not contenders so there is no need to spend for a good coach. Instead we'll hire a placeholder/seatwarmer while Dumars rebuilds the roster and when Joe feels Detroit is ready to compete again he'll fire Kuester (who was signed to a two years deal with a TO 3rd year) and bring in a "real" coach.

Dice was torn between Detroit and San Antonio, however I can't see him possibly heading back to Detroit after this hire.

Wow. Come to the Spurs, Dice! Get out of Detroit while you still can!!!

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Who do you suggest we get then? Clearly there are few players we can get for what we have. I get the feeling that Pop is more likely to take a chance with the rotation this year than try and trade for somone in the offseason. This will be the first season in maybe the last decade where the Spurs were unsure of at least 85% of their rotation. There is still questions of if half our front line players are too young or studs. Ian, Gist, Blair and Haislip could be a good role players or could be at the end of the bench. As of now it is too hard to tell.

You have Gist and Hairston out there that could play some three for spot minutes.

If neither of those work out, then go use Finley, Bonner, etc. as trade bait for a backup 3.

[FromWayDowntown]

Bonner did average 8&5 in 24 minutes per game with 50% FG and 44% from 3. But McDyess should improve the rebounding and defense with the same time.

my issue with Bonner has nothing to do with his averages as it does with the wild inconsistency that creates those averages. What the potential of McDyess brings might be a 6 rebound per game average, but very few games in which his rebounding total is 0, 1, or 2.

[DPG21920]

I was not comparing FWD. I was responding to someone elses post saying "didn't Bonner average..."

I said yes, but that is not where the value lies.

[poeticism707]

my issue with Bonner has nothing to do with his averages as it does with the wild inconsistency that creates those averages. What the potential of McDyess brings might be a 6 rebound per game average, but very few games in which his rebounding total is 0, 1, or 2.

I actually think Bonner will improve MUCH MORE now that he isn't being asked to be a staring PF.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I actually think Bonner will improve MUCH MORE now that he isn't being asked to be a staring PF.

Production doesn't matter if he's choke city in the playoffs. I'd rather not have Pop get a false sense of confidence in the guy.

[loveforthegame]

There's going to be so much disappointment around here when the Spurs hold on to Finley and Bonner.

[Bruno]

If you ask me we learned with Hill that summer league doesn't mean too much. George played better in his first NBA game than he did the entire summer leauge. Also players who have dominated summer league the last few year have not done nearly as well. I think it will take at least a dozen games into the season for the Spurs to make a trade unless an outstanding offer happens. It seems that the contenders are going "all in" and the rest of the NBA is offering their best players for the slary dump.

I agree that the summer league likely won't give you an answer but you will get some hints about players. The problem with waiting is that the new player you get won't have a training camp with Spurs behind him.
IMO, the player for who SL will be the more important is Mahinmi. If he sucks for the whole SL, he is basically done as a Spur.

[poeticism707]

Production doesn't matter if he's choke city in the playoffs. I'd rather not have Pop get a false sense of confidence in the guy.

I agree, Pop shouldn't go overboard with Bonner, but he can, and he probably will.

But again, against the second unit (not the starters), I think he could be effective in spots.

Worse case, the Spurs have trade bait during the season.

[DPG21920]

Not too mention George Hill was terrible in SL and Gist was the best Spur in SL. You can see flashes, but unless the Spurs are going to definitely go with a youngster for a spot, the odds are making it, even if you play extremely well are low.

So it really does not do much for the players chances imo.

[DPG21920]

watch Bonner start to thrive in his secondary role and hit clutch shots making all of the Spurs FO face palm for spending all this money.

[Spurs Brazil]

Come on Dice. Sign with us.

[Solid D]

McDyess has been the #1 FA on my Spurs' list this off-season. Hope this works out but it's strong compe ion. Playing with LeBron and Shaq is enticing, as is playing with the new look Magic.

One checkmark in the Spurs' box is SA is close to Dice's Houston home.

[poeticism707]

watch Bonner start to thrive in his secondary role and hit clutch shots making all of the Spurs FO face palm for spending all this money.

He'll become Bill Russel and Bird combined!!!

They'll trade Duncan for cap space!