Spurs leading race to sign McDyess...

[poeticism707]

Whoooaa, there, new fella'....

That's the type of post that gets one banned.

I'll never understand why Davis is getting such a bad rap. He'd be great for the Spurs, and while Dice is the best option now, Davis is ONLY 23.

Signing him for a 5 year MLE, based on what's he's proven on a championship team, would be huge win for the Spurs.

So, why does no one want the again?!?

[Blackjack]

I'll never understand why Davis is getting such a bad rap. He'd be great for the Spurs, and while Dice is the best option now, Davis is ONLY 23.

Signing him for a 5 year MLE, based on what's he's proven on a championship team, would be huge win for the Spurs.

So, why does no one want the again?!?

It's not that he's a terrible player or wouldn't be useful, it's just that he doesn't fill the needs of the Spurs.

He's not a good defender, he's undersized, he doesn't rebound or alter shots, and other than an improved jumper, there's nothing he brings that Blair can't.

Just not a wise investment of nearly 6M dollars, imo.

[mudyez]

If the Spurs do not get McDyess, I would rather them not use it and save some money. Just go with Bonner for a while and pursue a trade. If they are going to use it anyways, I would rather them split it on Moon/Big or wing/big.

I really like the idea if adding Dyess and actually I believe he was our otion #1 all the time, but if we dont get him, I'm all for adding someone young... even Big Baby sounds good for me(him and Blair at PF?...why not?). Then we can see how it is working out and if it doesn't we can see what we can do come trade deadline time. I'm pretty sure, that there will be nice options to upgrade.

[Doctor J]

It's not that he's a terrible player or wouldn't be useful, it's just that he doesn't fill the needs of the Spurs.

He's not a good defender, he's undersized, he doesn't rebound or alter shots, and other than an improved jumper, there's nothing he brings that Blair can't.

Just not a wise investment of nearly 6M dollars, imo.

Ditto!

[poeticism707]

It's not that he's a terrible player or wouldn't be useful, it's just that he doesn't fill the needs of the Spurs.

He's not a good defender, he's undersized, he doesn't rebound or alter shots, and other than an improved jumper, there's nothing he brings that Blair can't.

Just not a wise investment of nearly 6M dollars, imo.

He fights for Post position maybe as well (or a little better than Dice), he's 6'9 in Shoes (pre-draft), improved jumper, rebounds average but boxes out well, hedges screens well, especially for a larger player, and isn't afraid to shoot with confidence in both the season and playoffs.

Blair very well may be a great rebounder, but he'll likely never have the shooting touch and confidence of Davis. What's more, a shooting big like him would work great with Duncan, obviously.

Anyway, Dice is better now, but if the Spurs can't get him, I'd like them to make Davis an offer.

[NewJerSpur]

He fights for Post position maybe as well (or a little better than Dice), he's 6'9 in Shoes (pre-draft), improved jumper, rebounds average but boxes out well, hedges screens well, especially for a larger player, and isn't afraid to shoot with confidence in both the season and playoffs.

Blair very well may be a great rebounder, but he'll likely never have the shooting touch and confidence of Davis. What's more, a shooting big like him would work great with Duncan, obviously.

Anyway, Dice is better now, but if the Spurs can't get him, I'd like them to make Davis an offer.

Could've used Big Baby this past, uncharacteristically shortened playoff run....now, not so much.

[Doctor J]

He fights for Post position maybe as well (or a little better than Dice), he's 6'9 in Shoes (pre-draft), improved jumper, rebounds average but boxes out well, hedges screens well, especially for a larger player, and isn't afraid to shoot with confidence in both the season and playoffs.

Blair very well may be a great rebounder, but he'll likely never have the shooting touch and confidence of Davis. What's more, a shooting big like him would work great with Duncan, obviously.

Anyway, Dice is better now, but if the Spurs can't get him, I'd like them to make Davis an offer.

What you see is correct.

But Davis cannot be a championship puzzle the Spurs need.

And he does NOT deserve 6mil. That's why.

[Blackjack]

He fights for Post position maybe as well (or a little better than Dice), he's 6'9 in Shoes (pre-draft), improved jumper, rebounds average but boxes out well, hedges screens well, especially for a larger player, and isn't afraid to shoot with confidence in both the season and playoffs.

Blair very well may be a great rebounder, but he'll likely never have the shooting touch and confidence of Davis. What's more, a shooting big like him would work great with Duncan, obviously.

Anyway, Dice is better now, but if the Spurs can't get him, I'd like them to make Davis an offer.

Yeah, I agree with maybe one thing you wrote there.

Baby's not afraid to shoot that improved jumper and it's been pretty impressive.

We'll just have to agree to disagree.

[poeticism707]

What you see is correct.

But Davis cannot be a championship puzzle the Spurs need.

And he does NOT deserve 6mil. That's why.

I wouldn't call it overpaying, but the Spurs can't lowball Davis, or Boston will match. And 6 mil for a quality player who is that young is a good deal: if you need evidence, look at (though otherwise unrelated except for misjudged quality) McGrady's max contract. Again, for only 5.8 mil, the mle, I think it would be a great signing by the Spurs, financially and otherwise. Maybe they'd still need another piece through a trade, but there are worse things, like doing nothing.

Of course, if the Spurs get Dice, then's it not an issue. If they don't, I think they should make an offer to Davis: worst case scenario, the Spurs force Boston to "overpay" since the stole Sheed!

[Yuixafun]

If we traded Finley to Detroit resulting somehow in landing Dice and the Spurs won another championship (his first)...

[poeticism707]

Yeah, I agree with maybe one thing you wrote there.

Baby's not afraid to shoot that improved jumper and it's been pretty impressive.

We'll just have to agree to disagree.

Fair enough!

Always a pleasure!

[mudyez]

its all about versatility...I like the idea of having like 3 or 4 different options to complement Duncan:

1) Blair of we feel the need for great defense and rebounding

2) Davis if we feel, that we need more spacing while not giving up someone to hold his position in the block

3) Haislip if we want to go out and run (Parkerlineup?)

4) Bonner for really good spacing

only problem would be, that we are undersized with two of them on the floor..but in the PO's we better have a healthy TD anyway!

I'm all for Dyess, but give me Davis or (even better) Zaza if we cant get him!

[poeticism707]

its all about versatility...I like the idea of having like 3 or 4 different options to complement Duncan:

1) Blair of we feel the need for great defense and rebounding

2) Davis if we feel, that we need more spacing while not giving up someone to hold his position in the block

3) Haislip if we want to go out and run (Parkerlineup?)

4) Bonner for really good spacing

only problem would be, that we are undersized with two of them on the floor..but in the PO's we better have a healthy TD anyway!

I'm all for Dyess, but give me Davis or (even better) Zaza if we cant get him!

I like ZaZa, but my personal order of remaining bigs are Dice, Davis, then Zaza.

[024]

people are expecting too much out of blair. he has yet to play one single NBA game and everyone is already fawning over him. i think he'll be a good player too but to say that he is better than davis at this point is as ridiculous as thinking pops was going to average 30 and 15 on the spurs.

[poeticism707]

people are expecting too much out of blair. he has yet to play one single NBA game and everyone is already fawning over him. i think he'll be a good player too but to say that he is better than davis at this point is as ridiculous as thinking pops was going to average 30 and 15 on the spurs.

Yeah, Blair may be a great rebounder, but he'll have to prove it.

Even if he does (hopefully he does), he still won't have a great jumper like Davis.

But as I said, if the Spurs can't get Dice, make the MLE offer to Davis!

[jjktkk]

people are expecting too much out of blair. he has yet to play one single NBA game and everyone is already fawning over him. i think he'll be a good player too but to say that he is better than davis at this point is as ridiculous as thinking pops was going to average 30 and 15 on the spurs.

IMO Blair will be a better fit than Davis because of the demands Pop wants for that position. Because of Duncan and Bonner, Pop doesn't need a front court scorer as much as he needs some defense and rebounding. I think Blair can better fill that need. I don't think Davis or Blair are nothing more than rotation players, not starting material.

[timvp]

The team also continues to be in touch with free-agent forward Antonio McDyess. It is starting to look as if he will not return to the Detroit Pistons. The Cavs are in the running, but Yahoo Sports reported Tuesday that McDyess may decide to sign with the San Antonio Spurs in part because it is close to his Houston home.

http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/plaind...070.xml&coll=2

[InK]

I'm not celebrating until the ink is dry on the paper.

Yea, ditto.

[bostonguy]

Man that's the guy I wished the Celts would have gotten instead.

[Doctor J]

Wow, this thread has been viewed 25,000 times so far????

[SanAntonioSpurs23]

"McDyess has narrowed his choices down to Detroit and San Antonio. San Antonio can give him their full mid-level if they chose to ($5.85 million). Knowing how the Spurs normally operate, they might want to split that mid-level on two players. Still, they have more juice than the Pistons. Detroit News"

Hope this is true, wouldn't it be fantastic if we
got him for only a portion of the MLE?

[poeticism707]

Man that's the guy I wished the Celts would have gotten instead.

Well, you got Sheed, so it's not like you guys got nothing!

Hopefully, the Spurs get Dice, and then both teams will be pretty even in FA signings this summer!

[rascal]

If the Spurs do not get McDyess, I would rather them not use it and save some money. Just go with Bonner for a while and pursue a trade. If they are going to use it anyways, I would rather them split it on Moon/Big or wing/big.

You can't give starters minutes to Bonner. That was a failure last year.

[poeticism707]

You can't give starters minutes to Bonner. That was a failure last year.

[InK]

"McDyess has narrowed his choices down to Detroit and San Antonio. San Antonio can give him their full mid-level if they chose to ($5.85 million). Knowing how the Spurs normally operate, they might want to split that mid-level on two players. Still, they have more juice than the Pistons. Detroit News"

Hope this is true, wouldn't it be fantastic if we
got him for only a portion of the MLE?

I hope they aren't making a case out of it. If we loose him becasue we didn't offer him the full MLE, and put the whole 2009-2010 in jeopardy, while having no problems with taking on RJ massive 13m, then we are just plain dumb.