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Me too. Have been for a week.
Ah-ha! So nothing can actually happen for sure until 9pm. How strange. Long day ahead then... unless they meant 9am. 9pm makes no sense.The new cap, tax and mid-level exception will go into effect at 9:01 p.m. Wednesday, when the league moratorium period ends and teams can begin signing free agents and making trades. The mid-level exception is $5.85 million for the 2009-10 season and the minimum team salary, set at 75 percent of the salary cap.
Me too. Have been for a week.
I hope so, if we get him back I'll be so damn happy, but if not, I don't like our chances, knowing that we have NOONE to slow down both Kobe and Artest.
It's time to head in a younger direction and loose the strings on Bowen.. we already got the 35 year old Finley taking up a roster spot and younguns waiting for their chance (Hairston, Gist). Jefferson gives us that solid defensive 3 they've been looking for, so there's really no role for Bruce anymore.
Jefferson and Finley then one of those young guys (Gist / Hairston / M.Williams) will be sufficient at the small forward spot.
Oh I agree, but it still would be very nice to have a proven vet in Bruce on the team in case those players bust out. Actually I would love if Bruce did join up as an assistant coach to teach the youngens proper defense. However something seems to have happened between Pop and him so I don't think that could be an option while Pop is here.
By the way does anyone know if Jack Vauhn is still on the roster?
As of today, he and Ime are off the roster. They are UFA.
Vaughn and Udoka are free agents. They aren't Spurs anymore until they get signed to new contracts.
If Finley wasn't on board I wouldn't have a problem with re-signing Bowen, because of his defense (and I believe that to be > than Fin's offense.)
But reality is that Finley is here, and he and Bowen together make makes the spurs too old at that position IMO.
As of today the mortatorium is up, so I think they can sign the contracts during the day today since they have the actual numbers. The 9pm thing seems like a technicality.
Since ESPNtertainment is showing the Lakers news conference at 2 PM, I'd guess they can sign a little earlier than 9PM. The teams will need at least a day to submit the paperwork anyway.
I wouldn't be so sure. Contracts are all about technicalities!
I'm fairly certain that the Haislip signing means Bonner is getting traded. He would most likely be packaged with Finley in order to get someone of value (and a larger contract) in return.
I think that at some point, Pop, RC, and Holt had a meeting where they decided to forget the 2010 plan and go all-out this offseason. At this point, they probably realized that Bonner+Fin could be used in a trade, and were sure to tell Fin about the possibility. That may be why Fin waited til the last day to pick up his option-He had to accept the trade possibility.
These are still the Spurs, youth movement or not. Pop still values veterans, and I think the media ploy to make it seem like Bruce won't come back is working perfectly. If Bruce doesn't return, a chunk of my Spurs fandom will die.
Okay. SO the paperwork can only be submitted after 9pm. Still, why 9pm? Bruno?
Yeah...but OV made a good point. Signatures on papers are useless until they are actually filed with the league. If you have the numbers you can draw up the contracts and get the signatures. They can be filed later that evening or the next day.I wouldn't be so sure. Contracts are all about technicalities!
That'd be sweet... he was my number 1 big from scratch... if that ends up happening we have a solid shot to contend for a le
Part of me thinks that even after the Spurs get their MLE big, they could still make some moves.
Who are these people, and what have they done with my Spurs FO?
Yeah, I don't know anything about 9 PM, I thought today was the day (at midnight EST)Okay. SO the paperwork can only be submitted after 9pm. Still, why 9pm? Bruno?
They can all be signed today. It just wouldn't take effect until 9pm. It really is a minor technicality. It doesn't stop players from signing today as they literally do not have to wait until 9pm. The effective date and time the contract begins and ends is in the contract.
EDIT: the 9pm time was a journalistic mistake as pointed out by Bruno. Thus, they may sign away...
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I don't know about other moves after this..I think trades will depend entirely on the performances in the Summer League..not that it represents how good a player really is, but it gives you an idea..we have a good amount of SL players that have the potential to be role players for us this season..
It comes from Californian newspaper so 9:01PM = 0:01AM for the league that is in New York.Okay. SO the paperwork can only be submitted after 9pm. Still, why 9pm? Bruno?
Now, I think the newspaper made a mistake while converting time and it is "9:01pm Tuesday" pacific time.
I wonder what the plans are for Haislip?
Alright, just for fun and to keep the conversation going until we get the McDyess announcement at 3:47 pm, let me pose a question to all of you here.
IF, and when I say if, I mean it isn't actually happening, so this is simple hypothetical, irrelevant musing, we could get Lamar Odom or Marvin Williams, or someone else previously believed unattainable (David Lee and Paul Milsap would be on the list if they weren't RFAs) with the MLE due to the financial news for 2010 released by the NBA this morning, would you prefer any of those guys to the McDyess signing, or is Dice your current #1 no matter who is available right now?
The thought only occurs to me because of the ability to get a good value pickup when others are not willing to spend (I would say McDyess is not necessarily a great value pickup, but he is a great fit for a fair market price). A bird in the hand is always better than two in the bush...
Agreed. In my opinion he fits our needs better than Wallace. He rebounds on O and D, plays good inside D, contributes to the O with put-backs and open jumpers and he maintains focus and desire. We might actually end up being lucky in not signing Sheed. We have too many decent shooters on this team to bring in a chucker. Sheed has some better size, but Dice has a Spurs temperament. And a proven ten points/ ten rebounds a night? I'd say if all this rumor is true then we are that much closer to
Odom would be a godsend, but it ain't happenin
Of course! Nice work. Thanks.
Yet another example of terrible journalism.
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