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  1. #26
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    Actually it wasn't completely without Ginobili, considering he still played what, 50 or so regular season games?

    Furthermore it was a fluky 54 wins if I ever saw one. Bonner hitting game winning shots? Mason hitting game winning shots? A ridiculous record in close games? It was more like a 50 win team.

    The Lakers shouldn't worry about the Spurs, they should worry about my ing Mavericks.

    Just kidding, but my point still stands!
    The Mavs had better make some surges next season while their core is not very old, otherwise they wouldn't do in the further future with a senile squad like the one of Spurs.

    After signing Kidd and Marion with two contracts respectively lasting 3 and 5 years, the Mavs will have zero flexibility for any move next summer, while the Spurs will have enough salary space for a younger star that can keep his team great for another 4-5 years. Marion is still a pretty good player but the 5-year deal isn't quite nice for the Mavs. If Donnie had known before the draft night that he would get Marion, he would have accepted the offer from Wizards that would send us the pick for Smokey. There is no contending team in urgent need for a decent SF, so the very likely result for Smokey is getting traded to a scrub team for several role players. Then Smokey can only be sold at the prize of a typical expiring contract rather than No.2 guy of a team, like his role on the Mavs team.

    Marion is decent at defense but far from an answer to Kobe, and Mavs don't have a decent big guy that contributes consistent points in the paint as Gasol usually does. Ron Artest will also be a lethal weapon if he stays calm, not to mention his defensive work.

    Unless Dampier can be switched into a center of the same caliber with Al Jefferson, the Mavs would still be eliminated by the real great teams like Lakers, Spurs are not among the great range though. Even without a decent center, the Mavs will still dominate the SW division anyways in the regular season, but a big suffer is expected when the post season comes.

  2. #27
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    laker fans have more respect for the spurs than they let on

    "wow, they just won't die" is the common feeling about them lol

  3. #28
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    Of course we have respect for spur fans, otherwise I wouldn't be wasting my time here.

    And if for some god forsaken reason, injury or anomaly you guys get to the finals instead of us, you better ing hand it to boston or cle cause I would rather see you guys win than either of them.

  4. #29
    Believe. bresilhac's Avatar
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    too bad manu is an idiot and played in the Olympics and has ankle bones made out of glass
    Please stfu and refrain from making moronic comments if you can. Manu has been one of the toughest and most durable players in the league the last few years with last season's exception. Anybody who thinks he will not be a major factor in next year's Championship run is completely stupid and probably a laker fan, including you.

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    And if for some god forsaken reason, injury or anomaly you guys get to the finals instead of us, you better ing hand it to boston or cle cause I would rather see you guys win than either of them.
    ...or Phoenix.

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    I'll give the Lakers respect as the champions and say they are still the best team in the NBA (pending the Odom re-signing). But the Spurs are pretty damn close now.
    Fair take.
    Spurs are not going to be a walk in the park.

    To think a 100% healthy Manu is not a fierce compe or and a problem poser is silly.

    Bring on the WCF's already!!

  7. #32
    Believe. MarHill's Avatar
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    The Mavs had better make some surges next season while their core is not very old, otherwise they wouldn't do in the further future with a senile squad like the one of Spurs.

    After signing Kidd and Marion with two contracts respectively lasting 3 and 5 years, the Mavs will have zero flexibility for any move next summer, while the Spurs will have enough salary space for a younger star that can keep his team great for another 4-5 years. Marion is still a pretty good player but the 5-year deal isn't quite nice for the Mavs. If Donnie had known before the draft night that he would get Marion, he would have accepted the offer from Wizards that would send us the pick for Smokey. There is no contending team in urgent need for a decent SF, so the very likely result for Smokey is getting traded to a scrub team for several role players. Then Smokey can only be sold at the prize of a typical expiring contract rather than No.2 guy of a team, like his role on the Mavs team.

    Marion is decent at defense but far from an answer to Kobe, and Mavs don't have a decent big guy that contributes consistent points in the paint as Gasol usually does. Ron Artest will also be a lethal weapon if he stays calm, not to mention his defensive work.

    Unless Dampier can be switched into a center of the same caliber with Al Jefferson, the Mavs would still be eliminated by the real great teams like Lakers, Spurs are not among the great range though. Even without a decent center, the Mavs will still dominate the SW division anyways in the regular season, but a big suffer is expected when the post season comes.

    The Mavs have not dominated the SW Division!!

    2008-2009 Spurs 54-28 (Won the Division)
    2007-2008 Spurs 56-26 (Finished 2nd in Division, lost the tiebreaker to Hornets)
    2006-2007 Spurs 58-24 (Finished 2nd in Division, the Mavs won the division 67-15)
    2005-2006 Spurs 63-19 (Won the Division)
    2004-2005 Spurs 59-23 (Won the Division)
    2003-2004 Spurs 57-25 (Finished 2nd in Division, Minnesota won the Midwest Division)
    2002-2003 Spurs 60-22 (Won the Division)

    So in seven years, the Spurs have won the Division 4 times, and finished 2nd the other three times.

    But the Mavs have dominated the division!!! Yeah, right!!!

    Hey, never let facts get in the way of a good story!


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    Believe. MarHill's Avatar
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    [QUOTE=Rogue;3539544]The Mavs had better make some surges next season while their core is not very old, otherwise they wouldn't do in the further future with a senile squad like the one of Spurs.

    Again, never let facts get in the way of a good story!!

    Bonner (Age 29)
    Duncan (Age 33)
    Finley (Age 36)
    McDyess (Age 35)
    Ginobili (Age 31)
    Hairston (Age 22)
    Haislip (Age 28)
    Hill (Age 23)
    Jefferson (Age 29)
    Mahinmi (Age 22)
    Mason (Age 28)
    Parker (Age 27)
    Blair (Age 20)
    McClinton (Age 21)
    Gist (Age 21)


    11 of 15 players under the age 30(7 of those are 28 or younger)......yeah the Spurs are getting old!!


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    NB:lol Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_ Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Lu ck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fa kers_ 21_Blessings's Avatar
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    Something Spurs fan forgets. The Lakers face ed the Spurs "big 3" in 5 measly games in 2008 without BYNUM or a healthy Ariza.

    RJ is nothing more than a sexual joke that plays absolutely no defense. Mcdyess is 49 years old. They will be non-factors in the Spurs downward spiral to irrelevance.

  10. #35
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    Everyone forgets that its July and none of these moves mean until the games start. @ anyone claiming a championship in mid-summer.

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    The Spurs need to prove they are a contender, not the Lakers.

    All this talk about the Spurs making the WCF is ridiculous. We haven't seen how their new team will even mesh together.

    The Lakers have a proven core that has gotten to the Finals twice in a row. They don't need to prove anything to a team that got bounced in the 1st round by Dallas.

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    The Spurs need to prove they are a contender, not the Lakers.

    All this talk about the Spurs making the WCF is ridiculous. We haven't seen how their new team will even mesh together.

    The Lakers have a proven core that has gotten to the Finals twice in a row. They don't need to prove anything to a team that got bounced in the 1st round by Dallas.
    Everyone has to prove themselves come the start of the season. What you did the year before guarantees nothing.

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    Something Spurs fan forgets. The Lakers face ed the Spurs "big 3" in 5 measly games in 2008 without BYNUM or a healthy Ariza.

    RJ is nothing more than a sexual joke that plays absolutely no defense. Mcdyess is 49 years old. They will be non-factors in the Spurs downward spiral to irrelevance.
    That's a joke. Three games the Lakers won that series could have gone either way. That series was one of the closest 5 game series in recent memory. Yes they lost in 5 games, but three games went down to the wire, which Lakers won all three. " Face ed" is not the correct term.

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    Did you really just make two exactly identical threads?

    GTFO. You need to be pinked already.

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    To re-iterate:


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    Did you really just make two exactly identical threads?

    GTFO. You need to be pinked already.
    It was unintentional. I was trying to see if there was a way to delete one as soon as I noticed what had transpired.

    Sorry

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    It was unintentional. I was trying to see if there was a way to delete one as soon as I noticed what had transpired.

    Sorry
    How do you unintentionally make two threads?

    /me thinks you made a thread, couldn't find it, but wanted the attention so you quickly made another one to be sure you'd get responses.

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    How do you unintentionally make two threads?

    /me thinks you made a thread, couldn't find it, but wanted the attention so you quickly made another one to be sure you'd get responses.
    Wasn't the case. I tried to change the le originally like one minute after I made the thread. For some reason this is the end result.
    ( If you read the time on the OP in both threads you will understand)

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    Something Spurs fan forgets. The Lakers face ed the Spurs "big 3" in 5 measly games in 2008 without BYNUM or a healthy Ariza.
    And he Spurs had Manu playing at 40%, which is much more significant than the Lakers missing their 5th or 6th best player.
    RJ is nothing more than a sexual joke that plays absolutely no defense. Mcdyess is 49 years old. They will be non-factors in the Spurs downward spiral to irrelevance.
    Gay or not, Jefferson is exactly the type of athletic forward the Spurs were lacking, and 49 years or not McDyess posted almost a double double and is a huge improvement over what we had, not to mention all the other pieces that addressed the need for rebounding, shooting, youth and athleticism. So keep telling yourself whatever you need to believe, but reality is that the next time they meet, there will be only one team significantly better than the last time around, and it won´t be the Lakers.

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    How many games SA won in the regular season means little.

    Bottom line - SA isn't getting past the Lakers (with LO) because they don't have the frontcourt to match. SA worked best when Duncan could guard an easy player and save it for offense and protecting the basket. Against LA - he'll have someone going right at him every play. Getting Dyess doesn't change that.

    Gasol, Bynum, LO. Only Boston has a chance. Everyone else is just too small.

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    Only Boston has a chance. Everyone else is just too small.
    The goods/plain & simple style.

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    Only Boston has the frontcourt to compete with the Lakers.

    An aging McDyess and Duncan simply isn't enough.

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    @ spursfan

    You might want to wait until you at least play 1 game before proclaiming greatness.

  24. #49
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    And he Spurs had Manu playing at 40%, which is much more significant than the Lakers missing their 5th or 6th best player.
    You're an idiot. 40% . He was playing at full speed, 30+ min and had a 30 point game. Shut the up. And no, Manu healthy enough to play heavy minutes at a high level is not more significant than the Lakers missing TWO STARTERS.

    Jesus christ you Spur fans are delusional.

    So keep telling yourself whatever you need to believe, but reality is that the next time they meet, there will be only one team significantly better than the last time around, and it won´t be the Lakers.
    Whatever helps you sleep at night Brah. Have fun watching the Lakers next season do something the Spurs always failed to accomplish: repeat.

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    man some of the laker fans that post here make us seem like complete bags.

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