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  1. #51
    Ina world of hype, we win IronMexican's Avatar
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    Boston still scares me more than any other team, if we are talking about all teams.

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    How about we er....You know...Let the ball do the talking?

  3. #53
    Triple meat, triple cheez DJB's Avatar
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    Manu is not even sniffing the top 20. During his prime he probably was the 25th or so best player in the league, and he's way past his prime.

    Did you not watch Kobe Doin' Work? Your beloved Bryant was praising Ginobili as a 2-guard like he was jesus christ himself.

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    I'm The Future GOAT carrao45's Avatar
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    Manu is not even sniffing the top 20. During his prime he probably was the 25th or so best player in the league, and he's way past his prime.
    granted i didnt see him play very often, and he might actually have played at Kobe level occasionally, but i think he was probably top 20

  5. #55
    I'm The Future GOAT carrao45's Avatar
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    Something Spurs fan forgets. The Lakers face ed the Spurs "big 3" in 5 measly games in 2008 without BYNUM or a healthy Ariza.

    RJ is nothing more than a sexual joke that plays absolutely no defense. Mcdyess is 49 years old. They will be non-factors in the Spurs downward spiral to irrelevance.
    The spurs were minus Ginobili, so it was the BIG 2

  6. #56
    I'm The Future GOAT carrao45's Avatar
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    Only Boston has the frontcourt to compete with the Lakers.

    An aging McDyess and Duncan simply isn't enough.
    WTF someone just said that...

  7. #57
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    Listen up House you ... I posted this in the Spurs forum thread regarding LA's vaunted big man rotation:

    LOL at Bynum. So far all he's shown is that he sucks. 12 million per year and he gives you about what Josh Powell could give you in the playoffs (6 PPG, 4 RPG).

    LA faced teams with mediocre frontcourts during their playoff run -
    Utah: No decent bigmen defenders + Okur injured
    Orlando: One great big (Howard) + a bunch of SFs
    Houston: no Yao, no Deke but LA made Chuck Hayes look like an All-NBA defender
    Denver: Decent big man rotation. Naturally LA made Nene looked like an All-NBA player who could score at will; heck even KMart looked like a capable player against them

    We all remember KG/Perk/Powe/PJ Brown ting all over LA's frontcourt in 08. LA dodged a huge bullet when KG went down this year.

    Now on to this year: You've got LA with the same soft (but skilled) big man rotation of Gasol/Odom/Bynum. Boston reloads with KG/Perk/Wallace. Cleveland will field Shaq/Z/Varejao. SA improves with Duncan/Dice/Mahinmi. Dallas will have Dampier/Dirk/Marion. LA has yet to prove that they can overcome a team with a tough and deep frontcourt. If Landry, Scola and Hayes can outplay your big man rotation twice in a series, you still have a lot to prove.

    Now Bynum may improve and that'll change the equation. But that hasn't happened for 2 years now, so we'll have to see it to believe it.

  8. #58
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    LOL @ LA's frontcourt. After Pau, you have talented but lazy/inconsistent pussy after pussy.

    Our frontcourt is nothing but hardasses possessing a good work ethic with a chip on their shoulder.

  9. #59
    Ina world of hype, we win IronMexican's Avatar
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    Bonner is a hard ass!

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    Bonner is a hard ass!
    ever read any of the chuck norris analogies?

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    Bonner is a hard ass!
    yah he sucks we know

    but name all those girls in your pictures

    i hope there all porn starts

  12. #62
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    The spurs were minus Ginobili, so it was the BIG 2
    No, they weren't. That's just typical Spurs fan excuse.

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    LOL @ our front court being a bunch of pussies. What does that say about the spurs when the lakers ted on them? The same thing it's going to say when they on them this year as well.

  14. #64
    Eh, Fuck It. easjer's Avatar
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    So this all boils down to:

    Lakerfan: Spurs suck! We're the champs! Spursfan makes excuses! Our frontcourt rocks! Your acquisitions neither frighten us nor mean anything before you play!

    Spurfan: Lakers suck! You may have won the championship but our offseason acquisitions make us extremely dangerous and we are back to being championship contenders! Your frontcourt is full of pussies!

    And none of this can really be effectively argued or refuted before the season begins.

    So each team thinks they are better and the other one doesn't stand a chance. Which is different . . . how?

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    You're an idiot. 40% . He was playing at full speed, 30+ min and had a 30 point game. Shut the up. And no, Manu healthy enough to play heavy minutes at a high level is not more significant than the Lakers missing TWO STARTERS.

    Jesus christ you Spur fans are delusional.
    That was one game, you dumb , on account of Manu being a warrior and playing through injury. But for the series, these were his games:
    1. 10 points on 3/13
    2. 7 points on 2/8
    3. 30 points on 9/15, with 15 of those coming from 3 pointers.
    4. 7 points on 2/8
    5. 9 points on 3/9

    Averaging 12.6 points on 35.8% shooting (19/53), a far cry from his usual self. FYI, Manu played injured the ENTIRE playoffs, being at his worst during the Lakers series. So much so that, despite months of rest, he almost missed the Olympics, and in fact then reaggravated it to the point it required surgery. But you don't have to take my word for it... here: http://www.ole.clarin.com/notas/2008.../01697145.html
    "The ankle injury (the left one) is worse than I expected. Though the shot they gave me after the playoffs drained most of the fluid, the ligament is too swollen."
    "I had an MRI. It showed that the ligament was still swollen, almost four or five times the size of the one on the other foot. I can't stretch or bend the joint, it pains when I stop suddenly and when I jump."
    The pain started in the second game of the first round, against Phoenix. "Something cracked, I don't know what it was. It happened at a sudden stop. I almost didn't play in game 3, but then it got better. I didn't bother me against New Orleans until the seventh game. Then it got worse in the first game against the Lakers... And throughout the rest of the finals I felt limited, I could play and run, but I couldn't stop suddenly or change pace. That took the explosiveness out of me.".
    But sure, having an all NBA calibre player and the second best player (along with Tony) on your team severely handicapped is just like not having your 5th or 6th best player, particularly considering the latter came at positons you were stacked... Dumb Lakers fan.
    Last edited by Ariel; 07-09-2009 at 06:10 PM.

  16. #66
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    That was one game, you dumb , on account of Manu being a warrior and playing through injury. But for the series, these were his games:
    You're an idiot. Players that log over 30 minutes while sprinting and full speed the entire game and scoring 30 points aren't "40%" you stupid ing homer.

    1. 10 points on 3/13
    2. 7 points on 2/8
    3. 30 points on 9/15, with 15 of those coming from 3 pointers.
    4. 7 points on 2/8
    5. 9 points on 3/9

    Averaging 12.6 points on 35.8% shooting (19/53), a far cry from his usual self. FYI, Manu played injured the ENTIRE playoffs, being at his worst during the Lakers series.
    Yeah, that's what happens when Manu goes from facing whatever ty 2 guard New Orleans threw at him to Kobe ing Bryant with a little bit of the contract year Machine thrown in.

    So much so that, despite months of rest, he almost missed the Olympics, and in fact then reaggravated it to the point it required surgery. But you don't have to take my word for it... here: http://www.ole.clarin.com/notas/2008.../01697145.html
    1) He didn't miss the olympics and actually played well during the time

    2) Reaggravated my ass. The play in question where he got hurt was a legit injury that would have sidelined most players.


    But sure, having an all NBA calibre player and the second best player (along with Tony) on your team severely handicapped is just like not having your 5th or 6th best player, particularly considering the latter came at positons you were stacked... Dumb Lakers fan.
    Severely brain dead Spurs fan strikes again. Manu was so handicap that he can still sprint full speed and jump just fine for 30+ minutes a night in a NBA playoff game and even score 30 points. Manu played and the bed. Don't be made that Manu is nothing more than a homeless man's Kobe with Steve Nash-esque defense.

    Again, Bynum was the Lakers BEST DUNCAN defender on the Lakers and Ariza was the Lakers 2nd best perimeter defender. Yet the Lakers still utterly curb stomped San Antonio in 5 laughable games. Proving that the 2007 Spurs were the 2nd most overrated champions of the decade.

  17. #67
    El rojo y los Spurs!!! Ariel's Avatar
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    You're an idiot. Players that log over 30 minutes while sprinting and full speed the entire game and scoring 30 points aren't "40%" you stupid ing homer.
    What part of ONE game out of FIVE do you not understand? Or didnīt you learn to count that high? And yes, if your game depends on sudden changes of direction, sprints and stops, and youīre playing on a bum ankle, then anyone with a brain would say youīre significantly diminished. 40%, 41% or 39%... you pick your number. Or just take the season that had just gone by as comparison.
    Yeah, that's what happens when Manu goes from facing whatever ty 2 guard New Orleans threw at him to Kobe ing Bryant with a little bit of the contract year Machine thrown in.
    Riiiight, because he had never in his life played and posterized an actual elite NBA defender (like Raja Bell or Tayshaun in the Pistons system, with Wallace covering his ass...), and it took until his 6th NBA season to play the kind of defense only Kobe and NBA all time legend Vujacic can deliver...
    ]1) He didn't miss the olympics and actually played well during the time
    After 2 1/2 months of rehab and wondering, and only for a few games later when he reinjured it... can you do the math, or do I have to draw you a map?
    2) Reaggravated my ass. The play in question where he got hurt was a legit injury that would have sidelined most players.
    Sure, itīs just completely random he reinjured the same ligament that was swollen to 4/5 times its size and he had been rehabilitating for 2 1/2 months and put his participation in the Olympics in question. What a brilliant statement!
    Severely brain dead Spurs fan strikes again. Manu was so handicap that he can still sprint full speed and jump just fine for 30+ minutes a night in a NBA playoff game and even score 30 points. Manu played and the bed. Don't be made that Manu is nothing more than a homeless man's Kobe with Steve Nash-esque defense.
    Well, you donīt to go any farther than Kobe Bryant to find out just how ignorant your basketball judgement on Manu is. Unless you want to tag Kobe an idiot... But now matter how stupid you may be, I donīt think youīre ready to go there, are you?
    Again, Bynum was the Lakers BEST DUNCAN defender on the Lakers and Ariza was the Lakers 2nd best perimeter defender. Yet the Lakers still utterly curb stomped San Antonio in 5 laughable games. Proving that the 2007 Spurs were the 2nd most overrated champions of the decade.
    Bynum was a good player, 4th or 5th in importance on that team, and Ariza was a bench warmer who didnīt get much playing time that whole season, in fact until the next one. And Manu was an all NBA calibre player, 2nd best on the team, with no replacement, with an injury that hindered his game noticeably. Again, itīs not that difficult to figure out which team got the worse part... even for a Laker fan of your reasoning ability.

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    🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 ElNono's Avatar
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    Pay no attention to 21_Palins... Even Phil Jackson, when asked why the lakers were dominating, said "They have an injured player on their team", and this was by the second game, when the Spurs still haven't said anything about Manu.

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    spurs fan like to use the injury excuse like always. anyway, lakers > spurs, everyone knows that.

    duncan = healthy bynum (last year, duncan had a hard time scoring/playing d against/on bynum)
    gasol > your players
    kobe >> your players
    artest > your players
    fisher < parker

    therefore, easily trip to the finals

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    spurs fan like to use the injury excuse like always.
    Posta is right here. Spurs fan do use the injury excuse in a compulsory manner. Always have. I think Pop made it like his charter position upon taking the job there. Ipso facto: everybody in the Spurs Org. parrots Pop. & I don't know why yer all so insecure. You got those 3 rings, + that additional strike one.

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    Something Spurs fan forgets. The Lakers face ed the Spurs "big 3" in 5 measly games in 2008 without BYNUM or a healthy Ariza.

    RJ is nothing more than a sexual joke that plays absolutely no defense. Mcdyess is 49 years old. They will be non-factors in the Spurs downward spiral to irrelevance.
    Did you really have to capitalize Bynum?

    I also like how Manu doesn't get an injury pass but Bynum gets a pass for the ENTIRE 2009 postseason

  22. #72
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    Spurs did seem to win about a million games in the final minute last season.
    Thats what good teams do dumbass...

  23. #73
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    Manu had no problem against the Hornets in the previous round. Even if he was at 100%, the Spurs weren't going to beat the Lakers.

  24. #74
    I'm The Future GOAT carrao45's Avatar
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    No, they weren't. That's just typical Spurs fan excuse.
    Oh yeah i forgot he was playing, i had thought he was injured that season
    Last edited by carrao45; 07-09-2009 at 10:47 PM.

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    I'm The Future GOAT carrao45's Avatar
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    Did you really have to capitalize Bynum?

    I also like how Manu doesn't get an injury pass but Bynum gets a pass for the ENTIRE 2009 postseason
    Most justify that argument by saying Bynum did not play at all in the PO's.
    While Ginobili did

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