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    http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/27361

    Dave (MN)

    Assuming we've never seen "Being John Malkovich," what do you really think of Haislip and how good he can be?
    John Hollinger

    Fifth big man at best. This year's Anthony Tolliver.

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    Do I have to kill you for starting multiple Holly threads?

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    Spur Forever urunobili's Avatar
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    Do I have to kill you for starting multiple Holly threads?
    Sorry If i bothered... you can merge if you don;t think it's appropriate... i thought it was worth discussing separately... for future bump on his performance with the team etc...

    Again if it doesn't contribute plz delete...

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    Its from Hollinger, why would it be worth discussing at all?

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    LOL

    The jackass shouldn't even have a job with his "Spurs won't make the playoffs" prediction/claim along with the numerous other dead wrong claims/predictions.

    Why does he still have such a high profile job?

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    Spur Forever urunobili's Avatar
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    Its from Hollinger, why would it be worth discussing at all?
    to generate some rebellion and make the Spurs spirit to fire up even more?


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    I love a good Hollinger bashing as much as the next guy, but isn't he right?

    Duncan
    McDyess
    Blair?
    Bonner?
    Haislip?

    Sure, maybe Haislip beats out Blair or Bonner to move up to 4th, but it's not like saying Haislip is the 5th best big on the team is anywhere close to being the most ridiculous thing he's said.

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    I agree not worth discussing Hollinger's ramblings on separate threads.

    shame on you uru!!!


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    If that's true, then the FO has just wasted 4 million of Mr. Holt's money. I don't know about you, but Pop, RC, Holt, et al, seem to be a little too smart with their money to have just thrown away 4 million for Anthony Tolliver part deaux.

    But you know what they say...those who can evaluate talent do, those who can't write columns about those who do.

    I think Hollinger is a very good statistician, and developed a decent way of ranking players...but that is not a definitive way of judging talent and his system is only one of several that have merit. I am not going Spurs Homer and saying that Haislip is the answer to Lamar Odom, but I am at least interested in seeing the guy 50 games into the season.

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    If that's true, then the FO has just wasted 4 million of Mr. Holt's money. I don't know about you, but Pop, RC, Holt, et al, seem to be a little too smart with their money to have just thrown away 4 million for Anthony Tolliver part deaux.

    But you know what they say...those who can evaluate talent do, those who can't write columns about those who do.

    I think Hollinger is a very good statistician, and developed a decent way of ranking players...but that is not a definitive way of judging talent and his system is only one of several that have merit. I am not going Spurs Homer and saying that Haislip is the answer to Lamar Odom, but I am at least interested in seeing the guy 50 games into the season.

    Didn't he rate Butler as one of the best Centers in the league a couple years ago?

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    Let's be honest-- none of us know what Haislip will do. I'm rooting for him, and I hope he's successful, but if he'd been signed by Cleveland or the Lakers I doubt there'd be shockwaves of fear spreading through spurstalk worried about how dominant he might be against the frontline of the Spurs.

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    $4 mil sounds like a uva lot for another Tolliver.

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    $4 million tells me the Spurs are pretty damn high on Haislip. Personally I think that's overpaying for him but they've seen more of him than I have. We'll see. I could imagine him anywhere from the third big to the fifth big.

    An Anthony Tolliver comparison doesn't make any sense. Not in style of play or depth. Tolliver was the third big for a good chunk of his time on the Spurs before he got waived.

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    Only answer is that Spurs knew a couple other teams were trying to sign him for a few mil.

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    well haislip's a much better athlete so the comparisons end there

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    Exactly what I was thinking. Tolliver could shoot and thats about it. Haislip can jump and go inside a bit more, plus he can shoot (just not as well). I see Haislip being a poor man's Kevin Garnett more than Tolliver (who was closer to a poor man's Matt Bonner)
    Well the way Tolliver shot during the season Haislip must be terrible.

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    Exactly what I was thinking. Tolliver could shoot and thats about it. Haislip can jump and go inside a bit more, plus he can shoot (just not as well). I see Haislip being a poor man's Kevin Garnett more than Tolliver (who was closer to a poor man's Matt Bonner)
    My hope is that Haislip is a poor man's Rashard Lewis.

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    my hope is that haislip just plays some and contributes

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    How are Haislip's rebounding numbers?

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    Do I have to kill you for starting multiple Holly threads?

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    Does this mean Haislip's hair line will begin to fade?

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    my hope is that haislip just plays some and contributes
    Voice of reason.

    Not that I'm going to if Haislip turns into some poor man's all-star, but geez, let's not get carried away right now.

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    yeah, very similar players


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    $4 million tells me the Spurs are pretty damn high on Haislip. Personally I think that's overpaying for him but they've seen more of him than I have. We'll see.

    I agree. None of us have been scouting him first hand in Spain for the past year (though I'd go if offered!), so I'm content to trust the FO and scouting team. If his success level is square between Jackie Butler (0 out of 10) and Antonio McDyess (8 out of 10?), I'll be very happy.

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    How are Haislip's rebounding numbers?
    Bad.

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