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    🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 ElNono's Avatar
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    It's not hard to be Hollinger the prognosticator. Here's a sample:

    - In December Hollinger will claim the Spurs are not going to make the playoffs.
    - By March, when the Spurs are on pace to 55+ wins, Hollinger will claim Dallas is not going to make the playoffs.
    - By April, when both San Antonio and Dallas make the playoffs, he's going to explain why it's so hard to get the numbers right.
    - In early May, Hollinger is going to ride the Lakers bandwagon, picking them to win every series.
    - In late May, after the Lakers are eliminated, Hollinger will explain that ultimately the signs were there all throughout the season that the Lakers wouldn't get it done.

    Rinse and repeat.

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    Has Kobe found the real rapist yet?

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    old team? Christ, this guy is completely stupid. The Spurs could possibly have 6 or 7 guys on the roster with less than 3 years of experience. this guy is pathetic.


    I told you all it was coming!!!

    Now that the Spurs are LEGIT Contenders again, EASILY YOUNGER THAN THE LAKERS, all of a sudden, they're old!!!

    What, do the Lakers have the fountain of youth, or something?!?

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    Marion with Dallas in a strange way may actually help the Spurs. Howard and Terry give us the most problems. Marion has never played well against the Spurs. When Marion is on the floor more than likely Howard or Terry will be on the pine.
    Dallas beat the Spurs because we were very immobile. The off season has fixed that. Dallas lost to Denver because they too were immobile. I do not see how another 30 year old player (Marion), signing ancient Kidd to a mega contract, Humphries and Ross has fixed that with the probable loss of Bass. Also, Gortat will be no better than Dampier if he doesn't still end up in Orlando.
    Two tumbs up from this Spurs fan.

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    I love how Laker Fan disappeared for years when their team was getting curbstomped by D'Antoni or missing the playoffs but now they are back in full force. Greatness.

    All hail Jerry West.
    True. Laker fans like to talk trash about the Spurs first 1st round exit in a long ass time, but how about when the Lakers didnt even make the Playoffs PERIOD in 05', and were bounced in the 1st round in 06' AND 07' by the SUNS!

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    As I've been saying for years..

    Laker fans are the most insecure fans in sports..I really don't know why, but they are..look at last year for instance..ALL of us admitted the Lakers were better than the Spurs, it was obvious, nobody ever said otherwise..Laker fans STILL made threads EVERY WEEK about how the Lakers are better than the Spurs, basically re-assuring themselves..

    Go to a general NBA board like RealGM(the worst place for Kobe homers arguments, ugh)..Kobe will somehow be brought up in any random thread about other players..for no reason..

    The insecurity even comes to play when they talk about their own players..from Kobe being anywhere near Jordan or even the best player post-Jordan, to Andrew "Wilt Chamberlain" Bynum..

    It makes a little more sense when you realize that they actually cheer for an alleged rapist that s on his teammates..and now they're hyping up a wife-beater that abuses animals..it speaks volumes on the character of these people, and how they're s bags..

    We Spurs fans have our differences with Mavs, Suns, Jazz, Blazers, Rockets, Nuggets fans, and whoever else..but if there's one thing almost every NBA fan base has in common, it's that we hate the Lakers and their fans..

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    "Andew Bynum you in' kiddin' me? Ship his in' ass out, we talkin' bout Jason Kidd here." CLASSIC.

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    Marcus Haislip - what's his potential ceiling for the Spurs?
    John Hollinger
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    Ever watched "Being John Malkovich"?

    I'm sure everyone's figured this out by now? I thought more people had seen the movie but....-
    John Cusack gets a job at an office on the 7 1/2 floor(where the portal to "be" John Malkovich is). He has to stop the elevator shortly after passing the 7th floor and then pry the doors open. The 7 1/2fl obviously has a very low ceiling and everybody has to walk like a hunchback through the office. You know, kinda bending over the way Hollinger will be every time he looks at the standings(especially post All-Star break/Rodeo trip)
    ....he really needs to stick to #s and stop writing opinions. It's like being an extreme Christian and a scholarly scientist at the same time......

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    That's just being a Laker..

    Kobe allegedly rapes a girl and gets himself in trouble..but he doesn't go to prison or get any type of harsh punishment, because he's the best player on the most popular team in the NBA, and he's rich..no taking risks in messing up the Lakers franchise..

    Kobe cries and asks for a trade..going on radio shows trashing the Lakers..making tapes about Bynum in parking lots..then at the deadline, they get Pau Gasol from the Grizzlies, who later spend most of the $ they get on acquiring Zach Randolph and potentially Allen Iverson LOL..

    I just wonder how successful their franchise would be if they were located in Charlotte or something..

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    Parker 27
    Mason 28
    Jefferson 29
    Duncan 33
    McDyess 34

    Ginobili 31
    Finley 36
    Bonner 33
    Hill 23

    Avg age of Top 9 is 30.4 and that's now - not playoff time.
    I love posts like this. Misrepresent one players age and then leave out the players on the roster that are inconvenient to your argument. Cherry picking 60% of a roster doesn't demonstrate very much.

    Mahinmi, Gist and Hairston are 22. Blair is 20. Mahinmi and Blair especially have a chance to be major contributors.

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    This is the West, sir. When the legend becomes fact, print the legend sandman's Avatar
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    Kobe is the only guy in the league that is still running strong against the likes of Duncan, Garnett, McGrady...and whoever else. For all the players that came out then....Kobe is the one still running the strongest.
    ???

    Yes, TD was banged up this year and KG had a season ending injury.

    Granted, TMac has missed 100+ games over the last 4 seasons.

    But KG before last year had only missed 35 games in 13 seasons.

    Duncan, outside of missing 13 and 16 games respectively in 03-04 and 04-05, has missed 24 total games in the other 10 years. He missed a total of 7 games this year, and several of those were DNP-CD for rest days.

    Kobe has missed an entire season's worth of games during that same 12 years (84 games). Four different seasons he has missed 15+ games.

    Duncan also has averaged between 19-22 ppg in all but 3 of his 12 years in the league, with the other three years between 23-25 ppg.

    KG as well was a consistent 19-23 ppg scorer for his entire career before this last season.

    Kobe saw his scoring average drop for the 4th consecutive year, down almost 10 ppg over that 4 year period, and had his worst scoring, assist and rebounding year (in a non-injury year) since 01-02. Between 2000-2006, his scoring average fluctuated greater than 5 ppg four different times.

    I know that the argument is going to be that Kobe has had a better team the last two years and hasn't had to carry all of the burden, but the same argument can be said that TP has taken on some of the scoring for Duncan as well.

    Not to mention that both TD and KG are three years older than Kobe. Let's wait and see what his numbers look like at 33. If you want to argue that he has been in the league as long as KG and TD, don't forget that he didn't start his first two years and averaged 20 minutes per game. His third season was the lockout season with only 50 games, so his first three years in the league was very consistent with the amount of minutes he would have put on his body in a college career. For the record, KG was starting and averaging 39 mpg during those same two seasons before the lockout.

    Not saying that Kobe is chopped liver or even past his prime, but you can't argue durability or consistent production in his favor over Duncan or Garnett based just on this last season.

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    Hey Guys did I introduce you to one of my new es after Ariza left LAX?

    Just in case, meet 2Cleva one of my new ho's...

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    What the ? How the did this thread turn from Spurs and Mavricks to the lakers???
    Are laker fans THAT insecure??

    Steelernation, you are nothing more than a goddamn bandwagoner.
    I bet you bought a hat of the Pittsburgh Penguins just recently.
    Pick a team and stick with it.
    Mouse thinks you're a coat tailer and he use to be a spurs fan!

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    Laker fan or not - I know basketball.

    I know Pop played Finley last year no matter what - I see no reason for that to change.
    To be fair, last year was some of the worst coaching I've ever seen from Pop(Mason playing PG, Bowen/Gooden riding the pine, Hill being sent to doghouse for the last half of the season, Finley getting 30 mpg)

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    you have to give some props to Dallas, they had great off season and they one move away by using wisely of Dampier exprin contract to becoming contender.

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    Dallas always plays the Spurs tough. I'm sure Cuban considered the '09 playoffs a complete success since they beat us in round 1.

    That being said, it's obvious Hollinger is falling on his old standby responses and isn't really paying attention to how this team is fundamentally changing this offseason.

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    Well if John Hollinger said it... it must be true.

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    The Mavs made nice moves as well. I do not see why everyone takes issue with this stance. The Spurs are not a lock to beat any of the top teams, but they improved their chances.

    The Mavs are a terrible match up for the Spurs and they improved. So it is certainly not a given that the Spurs would beat the Mavs.

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    The Mavs made nice moves as well. I do not see why everyone takes issue with this stance. The Spurs are not a lock to beat any of the top teams, but they improved their chances.

    The Mavs are a terrible match up for the Spurs and they improved. So it is certainly not a given that the Spurs would beat the Mavs.
    +1

    Credit where due. Mavs have had a very production offseason.

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    Such a wet blanket this Hollinger is.

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    I knew it....
    Hollinger is Kill_Bill_Pana's dad
    (when younger they called him Holl_Boll_Mama)

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    The Mavs caught the Spurs when they were a wounded beat up animal. What's the big deal?

    They are not scary like the Lakers. Not even close. They are a good team, but the fear is not there like it was around 06,07.

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    How about I beat your ass kid? I bet you run and hide when you see me.
    Where would you like to meet?

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