No sorry, it's true.
You want to talk about ed up benches? How about Walton, Farmar, Vujovic, or whatever the is name is, and no Ariza. The Lakers will wilt late in games simply because of a lack of depth. As was said before Bryant will not drop 100 a night so some of those wusses will have to step up.
The Lakers won't either after Artest gets himself tossed from playoff games.
Seriously. You consider before you type such things.
I am not saying for a second that Parker is a defensive 1st team stalwart, but even with shortcomings, he still brings MUCH more to the table than Rondo.
Why are these Faker fans so upbeat with Artest? He's nothing more than a jumpshooting chucker whose defensed has slipped. Whether the Lakers sign Odom or not, I feel confident about what the Spurs are going to do. We've shored up our frontline and our wings have just got better. Laker fans are still not accepting that this is not the 2008 and 2009 Spurs anymore. Watch out League
What I'm going to love this season is that everyone is going to have relearn how to play us. Last season we were basically the same team that other teams already understood how to play against, while we were still trying to figure ourselves out because of injuries. We beat the Lakers in regular season (don't pull the "regular season lol" card), and now our team has vastly improved. The Lakers will potentially be worse than last year. Things are looking pretty damn good for us now. . . .
You're right, my bad I read that wrong!!
...so sorry!
Anyway, yeah they actually waon the game he missed but lost the game he played!
These stats don't hold much value now, imo.
BTW, has anybody seen Artest since he joined LA? LOL..he's all over the place, trying to make deals for reality shows, drinking everywhere, smoking cigars everywhere, starstruck..he looks like he gained even more weight, even after he was looking a little too big last year with Houston..
I can't wait to see him on the court..
Won't be long before Tia Tequila has him on her reality show.
and he beats the out of her.
At least we don't have to see this anymore:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DWjQFaZ_AI&NR=1
Are you Bruce Bowen??
dude us men here in texas where black and white, while your la team has wnba colors purple and gold? first of all your black momba lol is scared of ginobili he said it himself in the do entary, he has also stated that ginobili is his fav player to watch , and ive never heard manu say the same whos owning who here? you punk es from la should kept the 9o's riotes going, it would of really helped clean the world.
LMAO at Artest guarding the elite SF's better than anyone else. Did you not watch him this year? He was murdered by all the elite SF's. He does ok if they try and go down low, but on the perimeter, the guys with speed and skill (Pierce, Lebron, Melo...) will all murder Artest.
His perimeter defense/lateral quickness has evaporated. His days of being a lock down defender are out of the window. He is still a decent defender because he focuses and tries, especially down low, but overall he has seen his best days.
Impossible. He's even better than Kobe at this point! Maybe the second best player of ALL TIME.
Artest is still very much an elite defender. His post defense is almost unmatched by any SF not named Lebron James. He is absolutely immovable on the block, which makes him perfect to guard SF's like Pierce and Melo. He certainly did not get burned by the elite SF's last season, he more than held his own. Most importantly, he did a better job than Ariza.
So what if he can't guard PG's or SG's. The Lakers don't need him to. We still have Kobe and Shannon Brown for that.
Who do you have Spur fan? Bruce Bowen is long gone.
I want Bruce back..........as an assistant coach. Bruce is done, he can't defend anymore and he's not hitting his 3s.
Fail. Lebron/Pierce/Melo will eat him alive. He is not even close to an elite defender. Yes, on the low block he is very good, but to be an "elite" defender, you must be able to guard a couple positions and your own on the perimeter.
Same thing with Artest vs Kobe. Kobe was being stubborn and trying to post Artest up and it was difficult. He realized this then started catching the ball up top and just absolutely torched Artest.
Melo/Pierce/Bron are all going to do the same thing. They will break Artest down and cause the defense to collapse.
RJ is a great defender. When he was in NJ he was their best perimeter defender. LAst season he needed to score, and his team was not going no where, now he has another chance for a ring in a defensive team. I know that we are going to see a defensive minded RJ this season.
Are you ing stupid? Seriously, you are ING STUPID.
This is Ron Artest we are talking about, former DPOY, YOU DUMB ING IDIOT.
Good God YOU ARE ING STUPID.
Former DPOY
Who cares if he is the former defensive player of the year. He has noticeably slipped and has lost the majority of his lateral quickness. He is no where near his old defensive abilities.
For someone that brings up the Spurs age and "if we are talking 3-4 years ago...", you sure do overlook that Ron was that defender in 2003-2004. You do realize it is 2009, right?
Ben Wallace and Camby each won DPOY after Artest, are they still elite defenders?
You are the worst poster on ST.
First of all Ron Artest is 29.
Hypothesis #1. Ron is an excellent on-ball defender.
Seems silly to doubt this point as Ron has been a Defensive Player of the Year. But let’s see if the numbers back this up. Of course defensive stats are notoriously hard to quantify. One stat is opponent’s PER.
We see from 82games.com that Cleveland has the best PER against small forwards at 12.6 and Houston was second at 13.5. So far so good. Looking into the Cavs and Rockets in more detail shows that Lebron’s defensive PER was a good 13.5. Of course the Rockets also have Battier who was at 12.3. However Artest was even better at 12.2. By the PER-against metric, it is safe to say that Ron is an elite on-ball defender. (Bowen was 16.3 and Ariza 23.0). Versus Ariza, a significant upgrade.Hypothesis #2. Ron’s true value will be evident against the top teams in the league.
How does Ron play against Lebron, Melo, and Pierce. The three best players on the best teams in the NBA not called the Lakers?
We see that all three performed below their career averages. Pierce came closest to matching his career numbers. Lebron especially has had problems with Artest (No wonder he recruited Artest so hard). James’ 5.1 turnovers per game really stand out. Impressively, Artest’s team has a win/loss advantage against all three players. 7-3 against Lebron is no joke. These records include results when Artest was with losing teams in Chicago and Sacramento. By the way, Lebron’s record against Bruce Bowen with over 50% shooting and at 29 ppg.
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