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    PRESSURE MAKES DIAMONDS
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    Manu going Rocky 4 and not V.

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    What's your take ?

    1. Manu's health
    2. Tim's knees and their health
    3. Injuries in general
    4. Impact of RJ
    5. Impact of Blair
    6. Impact of Mahinmi / Haislip/ Gist/ McClinton
    7. Back up point guard position
    8. Spurs Defense returns
    9. McDyess and his play
    10. Pop's coaching
    11. Tony Parker
    12. Impact of Bill Schoening

    If you were to pick one of these, which factor do you think will be the biggest in deciding how far we go in the playoffs?

    What would you be satisfied with ? Only another championship ?

    What will be decisive in the matchup with LA if we get that far ?

    Complex events, like winning an NBA championship for example, can rarely be resolved down to one or two determining factors. Complex effects usually come with complex causes.

    That ends your soft systems theory lecture for today.

    However, we certainly can't win without a healthy team. That is a motherhood statement.

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    Health is the only issue for me..if that aspect is positive, everything else will fall into place..

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    Health and getting all the new guys to work together as a team. Remember how usually the Rodeo Road Trip is like a mid-season training camp and how we springboard to success after that? Well last year's was kind of mucked up with Manu in and out of the lineup, Pop moving pieces around and an unusual schedule that made it not feel like the normal sustained bonding period. If we come out of the RRT guns blazing this year with a true "TEAM" where everyone is healthy and knows their roles, watch out league.

    Also, don't forget how good Manu was becoming before the injury in the 2008 playoffs. With last year a wash, if he can actually become BETTER that he was before, like at the end of 2008 before the injury, man we'll be a fearsome team.

    Lastly, we have to assume because we still have some old players that there will be injuries (hopefully minor). How the new guys pick up the slack will be key.

    It is going to be almost like the 80's where the great teams have stockpiled talent. The Lakers, Celtics, Caviliers, Magic and the Mavs all are loaded. Welcome to the NBA 2009-10, a heavweight slugfest!!!

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    1. Manu's health
    2. Tim's knees and their health
    3. Injuries in general

    ...all three of them!

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    1. Manu's health
    2. Tim's knees and their health
    3. Injuries in general

    ...all three of them!
    Consecutively!

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    Health is a no-brainer and pretty much goes without saying but second to that would be growth.

    If I'm brutally honest with myself when looking at this roster, and that of the main compe ors, health alone will keep the Spurs contenders, but alone won't bring home a le.

    The Front Line

    The front line consists of two known, proven quan ies; Duncan and 'Dyess. Alone they don't have the means to likely hold up throughout the regular season and playoffs without a significant contribution defensively from the likes of a Blair, Mahinmi, Haislip, and Bonner. That's 3 out of 4 guys that potentially need to contribute that have little to no experience. Unless another addition is yet to be made, the growth of this very green crew proves to be vital.

    Backup Point

    Tony Parker's ascension to superstar-level last year proved to be a godsend to an injury-riddled team. He took more ownership and responsibility than he ever had before and almost single handedly kept the Spurs in the running for a top 3 seed. While the growth of Tony was fantastic and the new-found gear he unleashed was some kind of a revelation, a glaring weakness was exposed. Do I have to mention Roger Mason?

    Tony's ability and stud-status can no longer be questioned but the length of time he's asked to do it, sure as can. Let's face it. Tony's a 6'-ish, slight point-guard. He's simply not built to bear the responsibility of being that dominant a facilitator night-in and night-out, lead the team in scoring and give an honest effort defensively. The recent additions of Jefferson and McDyess, along with a healthy Tim and Manu should ease the scoring and facilitating burden but the guy needs a blow every now and then. Enter Hill and McClinton.

    A backup point the likes of Vaughn is no longer acceptable. The Spurs need someone to come in and actually have the potential to expand a lead, not simply tread water. Hill and McClinton, though more shooting than point-guards, do bring such potential. The Spurs don't need these guys to be pure point-guards or to be Parker clones, but they need them to come in and exploit their respective strengths, take care of the ball and simply initiate the offense. Their ability to grow/succeed in such a role could ultimately be the difference in the type of Parker the Spurs get down the stretch; in terms of health and freshness.

    Defensive-Wing

    One of the all-time great perimeter defenders leaves a void, that even in his advanced years, will not easily be filled. Bowen was more than what he brought physically to the floor, even if that was enough to leave an indelible impact. Bowen brought a toughness and grit along with a confidence and assurance that few role players ever have. With the Spurs having to part with one of the cornerstones of their three previous championship teams, the Spurs look to the newly acquired Jefferson to approximate what Bowen brought on the defensive end.

    Jefferson early in his career proved to be a capable defender and more of an all-around player. Possessing ideal size, strength and athleticism, there's no question R.J. has the tools to be a quality defender. As his years went on in the league though, and as injuries to the likes of Kidd, Carter, Redd, and Bogut occured, Jefferson's role steadily drifted away from the all-around player he was entering the league.

    R.J. became a 20ppg scorer and honed his offensive-ability to a level he never reached before, but with that progression also came a regression on the defensive-end. Pop's admitted duty now, is to reverse/revert his thinking back to more of the defensive all-around player he was entering the league and get him to accept a different role than he's become accustomed.

    Another option that could potentially be taking a crack at filling the Bowen void would be Malik Hairston. Malik coming out of Oregon was a deceptive, physical athlete, who was probably a little more physical than athletic. Playing in an up-tempo offense in Oregon he played more of a small-ball 4 and was a very solid mid-range shooter, slasher, rebounder, defender, and an underrated passer.

    Malik, though, entered the draft having re-made his body and having shed a lot of his "baby fat." While still a physical player, his explosiveness seemed to find another gear. Standing 6' 5'' with long arms he no longer look or played like the small-ball 4 he'd been labeled, but proved capable of sticking to the most elite of players on the defensive end. A Detroit kid who plays with both a physical and mental toughness, Malik never seems phased by the opponent or challenge. Hearing Malik's comments, Pop's obviously made the objective clear. Rediscover and improve on that shot and prove capable of being that primary defender night-in and night-out. Another vital role potentially depending on the growth of a player. (Gist, although more of a 4 offensively, could also potentially be an option here. I feel the ability is there for him defensively at the 3 but his ability to knock down the corner 3 offensively, might very well be his ticket to a roster spot.)




    This upcoming year's transition in personnel brings a challenge that hasn't been seen since probably the '04 team. The big difference?

    The talent acquired is a proposition, that perhaps, we've never seen.

    This team will probably win on talent alone most nights, while they grow and learn from each other, and their ultimate success might end up being in a somewhat '03 fashion; in terms of growth during the season and peaking down the stretch.
    Great post!

    Manu going Rocky 4 and not V.
    Jajaja!! Loved Rocky 4 ...a manu of that kind wow!

    I would like to add luck. In order to go all the way through you've gotta have some luck. I was looking at the 2003 playoff series against the lakers and when (ironically) horry shot that 3 at the end of the game it almost went in; I mean, I think that if it would have then we would have lost that series. I think that as a structure all the factors mentioned are crucial, but even so you've gotta have some luck. So far this offseason we've had it, lets see and hope how everything else pans out and everyone meshes.

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