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Every team has weaknesses. Lakers lack brains at times. And a defensive PG. Fisher gets eaten alive by faster PG's.
....I asked alright
So our PG position is wide open for exploitation?
Maybe we can get CP3 through some caper of sorts...
Every team has weaknesses. Lakers lack brains at times. And a defensive PG. Fisher gets eaten alive by faster PG's.
One of the Lakers weaknesses is that they are too sensitive.. crying like babies!
yea PG is a glaring one. i think another one is consistency off the bench. they were regarded as the deeepest bench in the NBA but other than Odom there isnt much of a bench. brown is arguable though.
I'am glad somebody brought up this topic because having read through some of their forums it seems that whatever the Spurs do or any other NBA team for that matter the Lakers can't be beaten. These people are just y. I'am sure Kobe is the same way that's why he and Fisher cried on the bench when they knew that the Spurs had beaten them in the WCF in '03. That was classic.
We Spurs fans never get tired of resetting that one.I'am glad somebody brought up this topic because having read through some of their forums it seems that whatever the Spurs do or any other NBA team for that matter the Lakers can't be beaten. These people are just y. I'am sure Kobe is the same way that's why he and Fisher cried on the bench when they knew that the Spurs had beaten them in the WCF in '03. That was classic.
Was good times.
I wouldn't want to exploit it, that would mean putting innocent women in danger..
If you remember some of the details, Kobe actually not only rapes his women, but he likes to choke them and hurt them during sex too..Kobe and Artest on the same team is not good for society..
It's a classic.
A nice and truthful answer!I'll bite.
PG,PG,PG and more PG.
Shannon Brown may or may not cut it. Anybody in here ever seen him play against a T.P? I haven't so it's hard for me to analyze his potential.
Bynum.
Sometimes the boy is a head case. If his maturity level doesn't come up a notch next season, it may be a long one for him.
That's all I can think of right now.
Question for you Spurs fan:
I know how damn good T.P. is so need to bash me for not propping him. His game is awesome and is a top P.G. if not the main one right now. My question is; Does Shannon have a shot to guard him? If not, what can he do?
Answer honestly. Heck, answer dishonestly if you want.
I tried.
I could go on all day about Laker weaknesses. The only reason they won the le this year is that they were the healthiest team in the playoffs.
San Antonio was hobbled, Boston was hobbled, and Jameer Nelson was hurt. Nelson was just like Manu was in last year's Laker series - he was 25% of his real self. If Nelson were healthy, no way does Orlando blow Game 2. I say if Nelson were healthy, Orlando wins that series.
But still, a healthy Boston team would have pounded the Lakers.
Weaknesses in order.
1. PG - Fisher is absolutely horrible.
2. Bynum - so inconsistent. Because Gasol and Odom are so good, Bynum's extreme weaknesses were not as glaring.
3. Bench play - Vujacic has become a joke, and Walton is super limited.
4. They only have seven players - the starters plus Odom and Shannon Brown. But EVERYBODY was healthy in the playoffs. They just got really lucky with health last year - luckier than literally any other team in the league. If they were missing a key player, they lose.
5. they are still soft. they didn't have to play a tough team last year other than Denver. Orlando is soft, too, so LA didn't have to beat Boston or Cleveland. Cleveland lost because Mike Brown is braindead.
6. For example, the Spurs will be able to push LA around this year. the only tough big they have is Odom, and Odom is really a 3. Plus, Odom might not even be there.
7. Bryant's ego. If things start going wrng, he takes over, which actually makes them a worse team. Bryant only goes as far as Gasol takes him.
Great points!
The Lakers are still a great team, and all this doesn't take away from their le last year, however they are NOT unbeatable the way the media and their fans prop them up to be.
The Lakers have one glaring weakness IMHO and that is defense at the PG position. Outside of Shannon Brown they don't really have any quality PG defenders. I hope the Lakers can find a replacement for Fisher in the offseason, or Brown can improve his game enough to get a good chunk of those minutes.
No team is perfect, all championship teams have their flaws. To say the Lakers didn't deserve to win last season is ludicrous, their regular season record proved they were the best team in basketball (at least the best in the WC). And their record against both BOS and CLE was 4-0. It's funny that Spur fans are complaining about injuries to other teams, but when the Lakers had to face the Celtics in '08 without Bynum or Ariza healthy they never once mentioned it.
It takes talent, health, and a little bit of luck to win an NBA championship.
Nobody has said that the Lakers didn't deserve to win?? And I guess that also depends on what you mean by "deserve". As in, are they talented enough to earn a championship, or deserve one? Yes. Or, Are they good people who deserve good things to happen for them? Most of them, yea, but not all. Definitely not Kobe
Those scrubs aren't worth an excuse. Plus, how can you make an excuse for taking the biggest asswhooping in the history of NBA championship clinching games?
Losing Ariza is a big deal, LA fans immediately assume Artest is an upgrade...Ariza won the Denver series for LA with his defense and the kid hit his open shots as well. He was a damn good role player that complimented Kobe, Pau, and Odom. Artest needs to chuck up shots and have the ball in his hands to be effective on offense, he isnt as good of a spot up shooter as Ariza. He has lost a step on defense as well so there are some questions there as to how well Artest will fit in and fill Ariza's shoes.
That, Fisher's D or lack thereof, and their softness are probably their biggest flaws.
pg
injuries
occasional 3pt shooting
thats it.
Those "scrubs" were both starters.
Take two starters of any championship team and see how well they fare.
Bynum is not a starter
he needs to see how the refs call the game then play that way
otherwise he will always be in foul trouble
Like say a really hobbled Manu or Tim dealing with tendonosis, Those 2 being hurt plus inconsistent play, means playing against a stacked deck. It's hard to win.
So I agree on 1 hand, but then you have to give us that Manu was hurt at last year's WCF plus the no-call on Fisher when he jumped into Barry which should've resulted in 2 free throws for Brent.
We all know about the PG issue. That's long standing. Bynum's pick & roll D is almost as bad as Shaq's.
If you do not re-sign Odom, does that mean you are no longer the favorites to win the West?
Who doesnt like to on a woman's face?
Our weaknesses are only perceived as well.
Most of the Lakerfan don't come to the Spurs side of the forum, only a few so there won't be many responses from Lakerfan.
Laker fan is pretty honest about weaknesses, often pessimistic even with a loaded roster. Feel free to ask and you'll get more information than you want to know. I've never known a more pessimistic fanbase even when the going's good.
The reality is the Lakers aren't really that good, they shoot some shots, they made some shots. Some were fluke shots, other's were lucky ones.
Some Laker weaknesses I could quickly think of:
1) Defensive PG. Everybody knows you quick little PG's can abuse the Lakers PG. I'm talking to you Aaron Brooks, Jameer Nelson, Tony Parker <insert waterbug PG>
2) Soft Defense. Major problem in 07/08. Inconsistent defense last year.
3) Taking games off.
4) Charlotte Bobcats own the Lakers.
5) John Salmons owns Kobe.
6) Lamar is inconsistent cuz he eats too much kandy.
7) Derek Fisher is a little too buff
8) Machine was broken
9) Farmar's ears are kinda freakish big, as is his ego.
10) More? Just ask or propose a weakness and you'll find a Lakerfan that agrees.
Lakerfan Strength:
1) Great sigs...props to Carao for this new one:
IronMex for the win
Last edited by Allanon; 07-11-2009 at 09:51 PM.
#1 their fans
#2 overdependence on Phil Jackson. without him, more riots will break out. seriously
#3 overdependence on Kobe Bryant. Without him Lakers won't even come close to making playoffs
#4 primadonnas and divas everywhere. someone tell Farmar you actually have to play good to have at ude problems
i'll think of more later
I love how this is the only thread Laker fans shy away from, except for maybe 2 or 3. Pretty ironic.
The Lakers just won the 2009 NBA Championship. They made the Finals in 2008. Clearly with all their flaws they are still a formidable team. Not even the Spurs in their heyday managed to make back to back Finals.
I'm confident that a lot of the Laker's weaknesses will be solved this offseason. Bringing in Artest is going to help solve a lot of defensive problems for LA. We finally have our bull dog defender, our Rick Fox so to speak. I can guarantee you his presence alone will change the character of LA's defense, much like Garnett's did for Boston. As long as Odom is resigned next year's Lakers team will be better than this years. A lot of Spur fans will be eating crow when they see a fully healthy Bynum on the floor, he's a much different player when healthy.
The only worry I have is Derek Fisher. He's simply too old to be starting PG. The Lakers need to find a replacement ASAP, and no Farmar is not that player.
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