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If they don't replace Gortat and Lee then worse.
Poll coming. I think they've gotten better, the Rashard Lewis at the 4 wasn't going to work long term, and Vince > Turk. Losing Courtney Lee and Gortat will hurt them but Bass is the perfect 4 for them. Discuss.
If they don't replace Gortat and Lee then worse.
If they match Gortat, then they are similar, but if they lose him, then worse.
I think they will miss the constant energy Lee brought. Same with Gortat. Bass is a nice addition, however and I'm sure Vince will do fine replacing Hedo's production, but they are losing hustle and energy and, despite his issues, Alston played very well for them and will be missed.
Christ, DUNCAN with a cogent thread. dogs & cats must be living together.
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Better::: Nelson is the key. And like old cement-head (DUNCAN) says: Carter is an upgrade over Hedo and shoves Lewis down the shot taking pecking order. Howard living thru the Finals like that: he's a humble sort & will benefit greatly from that experience. And regardless of how Media tried to trash Van Gundy on Daddy's behalf he's the goods/bonafide style.
Ipso facto: it ain't Boston|Cleveland at the end in the conference, it's Boston|Orlando.
They better get Gortat. I would say better if they resign Gortat. Get it done.
Mickael Pietrus needs to get more minutes anyway. Vince is better than Hedo. And, Lewis and Pietrus is better than Pietrus and Lee. They still need a back-up center, but I think if they can get even a half-way decent back-up, they should be fine. They're better than last year. Having said that, a healthy Boston Celtics team should be better than them just like a healthy Celtics team would have been better than them this past season.
At present moment i think that they have gotten slightly better but other teams around them have improve aswell so i don't think they are going to the finals this year.
one name : Ryan Anderson
Who knows, Nelson is coming back healthy and he was playing like a mad man before his injury.
The mavs are going after Gortat, what's wrong with you?
Yes. RA is often overlooked. He was a 20/10 guy in Pac10, better numbers than Love, Lopez brothers. He edged out Yi Jianlian to become the starting PF for the Nets late last season. And he's put up very good numbers in the summer league.
He has a good chance to start for the Magic at 4.
Lee + Turk + Turk&Lewis matchup problems + Battie + Gortat > VC + Anderson + Battie
I chose better. They don't need Hedo's point guard skills now that Jameer is back, and VC has no problem scoring.
Definitely worse. They lost Hedo, who was a huge part of what they did. They lose Lee and Gortat and all they added was VC. No question they got worse.
^they've also added the Basshole and Ryan Anderson.
I forgot about basshole. I still say worse though.
The season still rests with Dwight Howard. Unless his fundamentals and back to the basket game get better this off season, this thread won't matter.
Dallas is not a contender. They made sure of that when they traded Harris away for crap. Orlando needs a bench or they aren't a contender either.
We added Carter + Anderson + Bass + (Hopefully a healthy Jameer) + 2 more decent players that are yet to be signed. I think we'll get better, but the other eastern conference teams have as well. People saying we only have Carter have no clue what they are talking about
No. They got worse. In fact, the Orlando Magic are the Epic Fail of the summer. You don't let go of 2 starters the summer after making the NBA Finals.
I would say better, not in terms of number of quality players but what their players can do and what they allow each other to do. Heres why
Hedo was HUGE when Jameer went down, he was their main offensive facilitator and most consistent scorer. He was the most important player on the team.
However, people forget when Jameer was healthy, he was an all star point guard who facilitated the offense better than Hedo. While Hedo, on the other hand, wasn't playing as well as he did the previous season and his numbers were slightly down across the board.
If Nelson is back fully healthy I think VC is a better fit for the team for the sheer fact that he doesnt need to facilitate the offense to be a consistent scoring option, he can play well along side a talented PG (ala JKidd) and flourish. So I think overall that is an upgrade. Gortat was huge, but I believe Bass will give them something they didn't have and will play more minutes and add a different dynamic being a rebounder ALONGSIDE Howard. Obviously they lose a solid back up so thats almost a wash to me. Losing Courtney will hurt, but I think Pietrus can step up and make that loss not as hurtful to the magic.
Agreed, better.
Dumping malcontent Alston was a great move, as will be getting All Star Jameer back.
Vince Carter > Hedo
Pietrus > Courtney Lee...getting rid or a guy named Courtney instantly improves your defensive image
Bass + Gortat finishes off a great off-season for the Magic.
Who cares about the Magic. Are you not a fan of the Dallas Mavericks? If you were, you would approve of a signing that will make us better.
Worse, cuz Lee left that might be a pretty solid SG starter for Nets. Turkoglu left which i would say is better than VC right now not before. Gortat is gone = worser for magic and Bass is an alright add for them. So i think they got worser kinda. But if it would be Young Carter then no matter what the Magic would of gotten better!
all the people saying Hedo > VC
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