We were at a wedding reception/drunk and we all got talking and they really gave props to what we've done....but they still think the lakes are head and shoulders above us. Things they didn't want to acknowledge were blairs possible impact (crossing fingers), mcclinton didn't even come up for them- they were like who? lol. But I'd say the biggest thing for them was Ginobili. Not Td's knees or anything else but gino. In laker land here in socal people really think he's done-i don't blame them necessarily but the guy has a lot to give i think if he can play healthy-and i think he can. It's just funny you bring up gino's name and people kind of laugh now, especially lakes fans, cuz they saw his collapse 2 playoffs ago against them and then he didn't make an appearance this year. But I was like whatever guys see what happens next year when gino comes back as a threat then ur going to be crying and beggin forgiveness. ha.
/shrug
The Championship goes through them. They have every right to be as y as they want to be. Can't really blame them for ignoring a late 2nd round pick - I'm not expecting much from McClinton. I'm just hoping he provides a few minutes of solid defense on the quicker point guards and can knock down the occasional 3.
McClinton shouldn't come up for them. Hes completely unproven. There is always a 2nd rounder or two that ends up surprising people (and a lot of people think Jack might be one of those) but you never really fear them. They just pop up.
Blair is something different though. Sure hes a second rounder...but hes a special player. His pedigree says it all and the level with which he is regarded is unlike any second rounder in recent years. Their desire to see him as an afterthought is wishful thinking. Likewise, we should be wishful that those knees hold up.
Yea, seeing as how I have no idea who their 2nd round picks are, it's understandable. And yea, it's easy to count out Manu since he's been hurt the last couple of years. I sincerely hope that he regains that intangible quality that he has which makes opposing teams hate him so much
I know guys, lol. Jack shouldn't come up, again we were hammied and i was throwing out the works at them-i just said he has potential to knock a few 3's in-but maybe not-we'll see. Point of my post was obviously about how all lakes fans really think ginos done-like no doubt in their minds. The guy needs a second chance and he's going to prove all these lakes fans/friends they were very, very wrong about gino
People said Manu was done and then he wtfpwned dunked on multiple players during that one game. I need the gif, I lost it
Then he got injured again, but I know he'll be back. All the fans I talk to think Manu is completely done as well.
Nobody every looked more washed up than Grant Hill did a few seasons ago. His injury was worse than Manu's, and he missed basically 3 complete seasons, came back, and then only played 21 games the next season. He was the poster child for washed up.
The last three seasons, he's played 65, 70, and 82 games, and averaged over 30 minutes per game. If Manu gets healthy by December, and stays healthy through the playoffs, your Laker friends will need to have some excuses on file.
When Manu did play last year, he was really rounding into form, especially just before the AS break. If he can just stay healthy come playoff time, we'll be good. I expect him to play less minutes than ever this coming season.
Hill is a good example. People thought the same about McDyess. I wouldn't put Manu in the same category of severity with those guys and Tracy McGrady, but you can't know until a full season is played again. As long as Manu is structurally strong again and he can play without favoring one leg, he should be okay.
how huge are these laker friends you speak of??
With the way the roster is shaping up, I see Jack being sent to Austin or europe this year. With Finley still around, its going to be very difficult for Jack to find playing time.
I've mentioned it before, but people don't realize that Manu was having the best statistical season of his career before his injuries 2 years ago. While he may have lost a little bit of explosiveness, he has also improved other parts of his game.
If he's healthy, I have no doubt he will make a great impact when he gets back. He loves the game too much not to. I'm not sure many folks around here realize how much Manu loves the game and the compe ion.
He's all over FB during the offseason and season talking about the FA pick ups and the draft and the playoffs. He mentions how much he can't wait to play again and be a part of the Championship hunt.
Manu's going to be fine. I'm worried about Tim.
You have Laker friends? Wow, that must suck. Are any of them from L.A.? Can they even find L.A., or even the State of California on a map? Are they Cripts or Bloods? Wow. Do they own there own personal Chihuahuas. Wow, how fascinating.
I was thinking the same thing... How can a Spurs fan have Lakers fans riends!
And Spur fan thinks Laker fan is crazy for overrating Bynum. At least Bynum has shown on an NBA level that he can put up good performances.
Blair hasn't even stepped foot onto an NBA court let alone played one minute of NBA basketball.
I don't think Lakers fans overrate Bynum. He's pretty dangerous when on. The only issue there is consistency.
To be honest I think we should be more excited about the Jefferson acquisition than anything else. The guy is gonna be a beast next year. Rookies like Blair may or may not pan out. I see a little Lonny Baxter in him...more than Elton Brand or whoever people are comparing him to now. I hope for the best, of course, but if he can just be like an Adonal Foyle that would be fantastic IMO.
And of course the road to the finals goes through LA. It's gonna be an interesting year.
i live in orange county (an hour away from la) and all my friends are lakers fan. as far as character-wise, they're all good people. when it comes to arguing lakers/spurs basketball, it get nuts but its all respectable. what i respect about them as lakers fans is that they've been fans since the showtime lakers... not when it was the shaq/kobe lakers.
and no, they're not gang bangers nor own chihuahuas...
My brother in law/best friend is a Lakers fan since the Showtime era. He talks mad when the Lakers are winning and I talk mad when the Spurs are winning. He calls Parker "frenchie", I call Kobe "rapist". He calls Duncan "wizard boy", I call Bynum/Gasol "the Charmin Twins". But it never gets bitter or personal. If the Lakers are sucking or do something stupid, he's the 1st person I know to call them on it.
For the next 3 year window to be meaningful and get Tim his 5th (or more) ring....NO MORE international play for Manu. It's just to hard on his body after a grueling 82 game season and then even harder games during the playoffs. Manu's not no spring chicken but I will bet that once healthy he has not lost a step.
This is not a good example. Sure, Grant Hill has managed to regain his health and play lots of games, but he is nothing close to what he was before his slew of injuries.
Manu playing 80 games while lacking the explosion of previous years won't mean much.
As far as Manu - he was pretty damned good near the end of the season. (The end of his season, anyway.) If he gets back to that level, he will be a very potent offensive weapon. If he heals properly, there's no reason to assume that won't happen. In other words, he hasn't shown any evidence of functioning at a reduced level. When he's feen healthy, he's been very good. When he's hurting, he's mostly off the court.
And Grant Hill? I'm not so sure that he has any lingering effects of his injury. He may not be as explosive as he once was, but he also just finished his 14th season. When he was young, he played over 40 minutes per game, compared to about 30 minutes in Phoenix. When you adjust for playing time, his numbers aren't as far off as you might think. Then consider that he used to be the first option on his team, and got the most touches. Now he's behind Nash, Amare, and Shaq.
The point is, Grant Hill is probably performing as good as if he had never been injured. His numbers are down due to age, minutes, and his role on the team. Anyone using him to try and prove that Manu is washed up is way off base.
As a Lakers fan the only Spurs players that actually scares me are Ginobili and McDyess, because they are clutch. Td chokes and will be outplayed by Gasol and/or Bynum, Parker give him the jumpshot and he ll lay bricks all night ala Jefferson.
Impact or Blair? McClinton? If Bynum is fully healthy, he alone will destroy the Spurs and the rest of the league. And with the addition of Artest there's no hope for the rest of the league, barring a major injury for the Lakers.
Maybe you should focus on how to keep the Staples Center from being repossessed to pay some of your state's IOU's. And then figure out how the team is going to deal with all that bad karma they've taken on by signing Artest.
Rofl, worry about dumping Jefferson's salary to another sucker when he gets exposed not being able to knock down jumpers, getting Jefferson was a panic move and nothing more, so don't get your hopes up too high.
That's what I was thinking....are theyhow huge are these laker friends you speak of??
Huge Laker friends?
Or HUGE Laker friends?
You must know absolutely nothing about basketball...Richard Jefferson is one of only two people to average over 20 points a game over the past two seasons while playing all 82 games. If you don't think that's an upgrade from what we had before, you're ignorant as ....wait..what the am I even talking to you for...
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