Ever heard of a multiple team trade?
The reason the Lakers couldn't trade Kobe is because you had to make three parties happy, and it wasn't possible:
1) The Lakers had to get back a significant haul to remain in contention for a post-Kobe era
2) his new team couldn't be gutted since he'd be in the same boat as in LA.
3) Kobe had to be happy with his new team: that means he'd get a contract extension and an adequate supporting cast.
Kobe for Dirk was never going to happen, and it's not Cuban's fault it didn't go down.
Whether Kobe would have agreed to it or not is irrelevant. The Lakers offered up Kobe for Dirk, and Cuban said no. Kobe never had a chance to decide on it.
Oh, so now there's some mythical multi-team trade we've never heard about.
Who was in this trade? Was it a good one?
Just answer me this question, why did Cuban fire Avery?
Ever heard of the Collective Bargaining Agreement? What 3-team trade would be legal under the CBA, would give the Lakers a foundation of talent to build on, would give Kobe's new team an adequate supporting cast, and what would be the motivation of the 3rd team to join in these talks?
He fired Avery bc he had lost the trust of his players after the Miami/Golden State series and he had turned into a micro-managing freak. Any other questions?
Kobe-Dirk-Carmelo-Bosh-Wade.
5-team swap. it.
Cuban's a pussy for not accepting this awesome trade I just came up with 3 years ago.
Apparently getting Dirk back was enough because the Lakers put that offer out on the table.
That supporting cast helped Dirk win 67 regular season games, Kobe probably would like Devin Harris & Josh Howard a tad bit better than Smush Parker & Luke Walton.
See my last point.
The deal was on the table, and Cuban rejected it before he even had the chance to see if Kobe would go for it. Because he's ing re ed.
We both know what Cuban said. It came straight from him. Why do Mavs fans want to pretend this never happened? HE ING SAID IT DID.
Kobe's no-trade clause is completely relevant. Kobe for Dirk is like talking about whether or not the USS Enterprise could defeat a Klingon Bird of Prey in a space battle, or whether or not Han Solo or Captain Kirk is a bigger swinging with the chicks. It's just much ado about make believe. Kobe made it clear he wanted to come to Dallas to play with Dirk...so in the event that Cuban agreed, it wouldn't have mattered. Kobe wasn't coming to Dallas.
Irrelevant with Kobe's no-trade clause
Irrelevant with Kobe's no-trade clause.That supporting cast helped Dirk win 67 regular season games, Kobe probably would like Devin Harris & Josh Howard a tad bit better than Smush Parker & Luke Walkton.
Irrelevant with Kobe's no-trade clause.The deal was on the table, and Cuban rejected it before he even had the chance to see if Kobe would go for it. Because he's ing re ed.
Why are we doing this?
Ok, neither series was his fault, D-Wade just got whistles for everything, GS won that series b/c Don Nelson knew the structure of that team because he coached them. Their best chance was with Avery, just saying
Yeah but Mark & Donnie say that everybody wants to play in Dallas "because it's Dallas". You're telling me Mark couldn't at least have said "Let me talk to Kobe and see what he thinks, maybe i can convince him to accept the trade"?
Mark turned the trade down without even trying any of that, because he overrated Dirk. Bottom line.
"Because it's Dallas"
Don't you have a crippled Oriental and a lazy-eyed vagina to worry about?
If you want to make fun of Cuban for not considering it, fine. But to make fun of the Mavericks because they couldn't get Kobe in the blue and green? Not fair and inaccurate.
I'm just wondering what non-Dirk trade Kobe would've agreed to. What would the Lakers have taken in lieu of Dirk? Josh, Jet and Devin?
Trading Kobe and satisfying all parties involved was just impossible.
http://box308.bluehost.com/~dallasba...mn.php?id=1728
Wouldn't it be easier to just tear the whole thing down, trade Dirk, and build from scratch?
Cuban: "Hypothetically, if we were trading Dirk, it's just as hard if not harder to get it right in getting the right players back, because no one's gonna give up somebody that's 'an automatic superstar who takes you to the Finals and win a championship' player. You have just as much risk in saying, 'They're willing to trade Player A and Player B for Dirk, now what do we have and how do we know that's gonna make us better.' "
He also revealed they'd had just that sort of discussion on a Kobe-for-Dirk swap in the past (specifically in the summer of 2007), but ultimately said no because they felt like they would be trading away a player who had been carrying his team to the Finals without much help for a player who had been struggling just to make the playoffs with a similar caliber of supporting cast.
Naw, just patiently waiting for 2010
You don't know that. None of us do. Cuban never let it get that far.
according to Cuban
Dirk > Kobe
Josh = Luke Walton
Devin = Smush Parker
just saying
Which makes it even more baffling that Josh is such an untouchable, incredible player now. Back in 2007 he was just another scrub would wouldn't help any more than the average scrub on the 07 Lakers.
I know that Kobe made it clear he wouldn't entertain a trade of himself for Dirk, and that his biggest frustration in LA up to that point was that he did not have a bona fide #2 beside him since Shaq left. The whole point of trading him was so he would have that person alongside him.
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