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  1. #76
    Long, Dark Blues redzero's Avatar
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    Well he's considered a superstar and IDK about you but I dont consider guys superstars that let Dwyane Wade own his ass four times straight then follow it up by shooting .38% while getting embarrassed by the eight seeded Golden State Warriors. I dunno, those just aren't superstar like performances if you ask me.

    A more unbiased angle is he got MVP and lost in the first round, so that makes him overrated in and of itself.

  2. #77
    The Timeless One Leetonidas's Avatar
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  3. #78
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    Underrated:

    PG: Billups
    SG: JR Smith
    SF: Melo
    PF: Birdman
    C: Nene

    Overrated:

    PG: Lakers Bench
    SG: Kobe
    SF: LeBron
    PF: K-Wart
    C: "Wilt" Bynum

    Honorable Mention - That POS David Stern.

  4. #79
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    Doesn't the overrated list contain that 7'6 piece of ****? personally I think that guy is the most overrated player ever.

  5. #80
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    Doesn't the overrated list contain that 7'6 piece of ****? personally I think that guy is the most overrated player ever.

    Sons I can't believe he no one mentioned him.

  6. #81
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    I've always thought Manu Ginobili has always been underrated in the league. Maybe not with those who are comparing him to Kobe, DWade, and Lebron but overall. Mainly all I've heard from other fans around the league is that the only reason he's any good is he's playing behind Tim and Tony and that he's coming off the bench to play against the other teams scrubs so of course he's going to score well. If he's that easy to replace we surely should've beaten the Mavs without him and gotten further into the playoffs. I've heard them even say he's not good enough to be a starter. I guess people have forgotten that less than two years ago he was carrying our team and clutch as can be when both Tim and Tony were out injured and was named to All-NBA team. If it's anything Manu accepting this 6MOY position for good on this team has hurt him as far as being recognized for anything.

  7. #82
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    Bored at work, just wanna know what ya think? This is my list.
    Underrated
    pg Deron William
    sg Kevin Martin
    sf Andre Iguodala
    pf Louis Scola
    C Al Jefferson

    overrated
    Pg Jason Kidd
    sg Agent Zero
    sf Paul Pierce
    pf David West
    c Andrew Bynum
    Eh, I don't think Pierce belongs there. He's rated about right, in the 2nd tier of stars right below the superduperstars.

    I don't think West is too highly overrated, at least not to the point where I'd put him first. And is anyone rating Arenas highly right now?

    I'll have to think about this for a moment before I put up my list...

  8. #83
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    I've always thought Manu Ginobili has always been underrated in the league. Maybe not with those who are comparing him to Kobe, DWade, and Lebron but overall. Mainly all I've heard from other fans around the league is that the only reason he's any good is he's playing behind Tim and Tony and that he's coming off the bench to play against the other teams scrubs so of course he's going to score well. If he's that easy to replace we surely should've beaten the Mavs without him and gotten further into the playoffs. I've heard them even say he's not good enough to be a starter. I guess people have forgotten that less than two years ago he was carrying our team and clutch as can be when both Tim and Tony were out injured and was named to All-NBA team. If it's anything Manu accepting this 6MOY position for good on this team has hurt him as far as being recognized for anything.
    I agree with this. He is not on the level of Kobe but he is not a scrub. A lot of Spur fans were calling for him to be traded before the RJ trade. Not many realize you can't replace someone like him. He's a great all around player who gives his all even when he is having a bad game. He is the Spurs x-factor and its sad to see so many ridding him off as injury phrone and done. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and hope he comes back with a solid year this year.

  9. #84
    Ford is the Best in Texas scottspurs's Avatar
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    Underrated:
    pg-Devin Harris
    sg-Joe Johnson
    sf-Danny Granger
    pf-Tim Duncan
    c-Al Jefferson

    Overrated:
    pg-Mike Bibby
    sg-Ray Allen
    sf-Shane Battier
    pf-Lamar Odom
    c-Dwight Howard

  10. #85
    Long, Dark Blues redzero's Avatar
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    Underrated:
    pg-Devin Harris
    sg-Joe Johnson
    sf-Danny Granger
    pf-Tim Duncan
    c-Al Jefferson

    Overrated:
    pg-Mike Bibby
    sg-Ray Allen
    sf-Shane Battier
    pf-Lamar Odom
    c-Dwight Howard
    Tim Duncan is underrated? Really?


    Ghazi, where are you? Judging from your requirements, Dirk should be overrated not underrated.

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    Overrated:
    PG - Mo Williams
    SG - Vince Carter
    SF - Paul Pierce
    PF - David West
    C - Yao Ming

    Underrated:
    PG - Deron Williams (Mo made the all-star team before him. Disgrace!)
    SG - Joe Johnson
    SF - Danny Granger
    PF - Al Jefferson
    C - Kendrick Perkins

  12. #87
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    Underrated
    PG - Devin Harris
    SG - Kevin Martin
    SF - Jeff Green
    PF - LaMarcus Aldridge
    C - Al Jefferson

    Overrated
    PG - Sebastian Telfair
    SG - Mickael Pietris
    SF - Boris Diaw
    PF - Amare Stoudamire
    C - Greg Oden (honorable mention to Andrew Bynum)

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    Overrated:
    pg-Mike Bibby
    sg-Ray Allen
    sf-Shane Battier
    pf-Lamar Odom
    c-Dwight Howard


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    Underrated:
    pg-Rondo
    sg-Ray Allen
    sf-Paul Pierce
    pf-Kevin Garnett (clutch and a natural leader)
    c-Kendrick Perkins


    Overrated:
    pg-Tony Parker
    sg-kobe bryant
    sf-Artest
    pf-Gasol
    c-Tim Duncan

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    pf-Kevin Garnett (clutch


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    And then some...

    All of this for a 4 time all-NBA 1st teamer, 9 time all-NBA player, 9 time all star, 1 time MVP, and 2006 NBA Champion and of course, the best PF in the universe.

    To me this is a case of underrated, I've also seen in the past insinuations that Josh Howard is the best player on the Mavs.
    lul at the 2006 championship, how was the parade bro?

    I also find it funny that u clown on Paul for supposedly letting his team lose to the Nuggets and how a superstar player doesnt let that happen...yet Dirk let his team choke a 2-0 lead and a 10+ point lead heading into the 4th quarter of Game 3 in the Finals? Than followed that up with a first round exit to an 8th seed, I dont know if a real MVP lets that happen. Dirk can play but he is neither underrated nor is he the best PF in the game. He's a TOP 10 player maybe, but thats it.

    Here's my list:
    Underrated
    PG-Harris
    SG-Roy
    SF-Granger
    PF-Lopez
    C-Harrington

    Overrated
    PG-Mo Williams
    SG-VC
    SF-Artest
    PF-Boozer
    C-Bynum

  17. #92
    Ford is the Best in Texas scottspurs's Avatar
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    Tim Duncan is underrated? Really?


    Ghazi, where are you? Judging from your requirements, Dirk should be overrated not underrated.
    Yes, Tim Duncan is underrated. He is one of the three greatest basketball players of all time and he doesn't get enough props. People forget about Tim Duncan. He is great, but people only talk about him like he is only good not great.

  18. #93
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    lul at the 2006 championship, how was the parade bro?

    I also find it funny that u clown on Paul for supposedly letting his team lose to the Nuggets and how a superstar player doesnt let that happen...yet Dirk let his team choke a 2-0 lead and a 10+ point lead heading into the 4th quarter of Game 3 in the Finals? Than followed that up with a first round exit to an 8th seed, I dont know if a real MVP lets that happen. Dirk can play but he is neither underrated nor is he the best PF in the game. He's a TOP 10 player maybe, but thats it.

    Here's my list:
    Underrated
    PG-Harris
    SG-Roy
    SF-Granger
    PF-Lopez
    C-Harrington

    Overrated
    PG-Mo Williams
    SG-VC
    SF-Artest
    PF-Boozer
    C-Bynum
    Dirk gets a free pass for the Finals because it was 8 on 5 instead of actual basketball, and everyone objective knows it

    GS series was just an anomaly and besides, GS wasn't "actually" an 8th seed. It was more or less like losing to a 6th seed, something which Tim Duncan has done as well

  19. #94
    Long, Dark Blues redzero's Avatar
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    Dirk gets a free pass for the Finals because it was 8 on 5 instead of actual basketball, and everyone objective knows it

    GS series was just an anomaly and besides, GS wasn't "actually" an 8th seed. It was more or less like losing to a 6th seed, something which Tim Duncan has done as well
    The double standards make you a joke account.

  20. #95
    Big in Japan GSH's Avatar
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    Underrated:

    PG - Jose Calderon
    SG - Manu
    SF - Danny Granger (the most underrated player in the league, in my opinion)
    PF - Scola
    C - Nene

    A few weeks ago, I would have put Richard Jefferson on the underrated list - but now everyone will just say it's because he's on the Spurs. If John Salmons can turn in another season like this last one, he definitely belongs on the underrated list - same with Kelenna Azabuike.

    Overrated - how about based on salary?

    PG - Gilbert Arenas ($16M)
    SG - Michael Redd ($17M)
    SF - Tracy McGrady ($23M)
    PF - Jermaine O'neal (23M)
    C - Eric Dampier/Andrew Bogut ($10M ea)

    How would you like a starting lineup of Arenas, Redd, McGrady, O'neal, and Bogut - for the low, low price of just $79 Million? Three little guys who would fight each other for the ball, and jack up shots constantly - and two big guys who wouldn't get the rebounds.

  21. #96
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    IU find it funny that people on here put bynum as overrated overpaid to this point MOST definitely ...but what he is a young big man with promise no one has proclaimed him the next Kareem EXCEPT over-anxious Laker fans. Overrated by knowledgable folks doubt that ...

  22. #97
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    Like I said, Dirk is underrated by the FANS and even some talking heads. That he won an MVP isn't relevant.

    On ESPN alone:
    Dirk Nowitzki isn't a superstar -Stephen A Smith
    Legler's insinuations that Dirk was the problem, in a Hornets series were Dirk played great.
    Mashburn's insinuation that JET was the best Mavs players.

    On these boards:
    Manu/Parker > Dirk
    Various 2nd tier players considered better than Dirk at various points: Melo, Boozer, Stoudamire, Nash, Pierce, etc
    Dirk trade scenarios for Tyrus Thomas and Anthony Randolph
    References to my man as a "vagina" or as a "choker" despite his incessant displays of mental/physical toughness and lifetime 25/10 playoff averages.



    And then some...

    All of this for a 4 time all-NBA 1st teamer, 9 time all-NBA player, 9 time all star, 1 time MVP, and 2006 NBA Champion and of course, the best PF in the universe.

    To me this is a case of underrated, I've also seen in the past insinuations that Josh Howard is the best player on the Mavs.
    Melo is better than Dirk

  23. #98
    I'm The Future GOAT carrao45's Avatar
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    This is stupid.

    Once people start to say a player is underrated, that player ceases to be underrated.
    Once people start to say a player is overrated, that player ceases to be overrated

  24. #99
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    My list ...Overrated

    PG Mo williams (great streak shooter but not an all-star)
    SG Wade (great player but hype after FINALS and last year was overboard he is not yet on Kobe's level getting there though)
    SF Pierce (Great FINALS had many including himself overrate him top 15 in NBA most def and clutch... but not top 5 or 10)
    PF DWest (undersized skillbut not an All-star_
    C Oden (thought comparisons to David and Ewing were overboard even BEFORE he got hurt)

  25. #100
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    Melo is better than Dirk
    No he isn't Statistically unjustifiable, unjustifiable if we weigh accolades, Melo is just not that good. It's purely hype based.


    Melo is not better than Dirk.

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