This is why I love Dr. Buss

[DenDen]

Lakers have been winning championships long before Kobe and long after. Our franchise le window isn't dedicated to one player (like Spurs and Duncan).

When kobe hang up his hyperdunk, its over for the purple and pisst. Who is your next great laker cornerstone, Bynum

[JamStone]

If you are criticizing him for the LO negotiations...why the fortunate and not intelligient?? Not understanding that....what is that relating to?

Go back and follow the discussion.

This thread is about praising Buss for his hard stance with Odom. Someone compared him to the late Pistons owner Bill Davidson. I distinguished the two because Davidson was consistent with how he handled players and negotiations and offering fair deals with basically a take it or leave it approach. The inferences in this thread that Buss is doing the right and shrewd thing is what I challenge. Because if he was this smart, hardball negotiator then he should been the same with Andrew Bynum and his agent. And if he was so tactful about financial prudence, he should have never signed off on the Luke and Sasha contracts.

You can't bottomline an argument and say Buss can't be questioned merely because he is successful. Enron and GM were very successful for years but obviously there were decisions that could have been questioned along the way. I don't think it was Jerry Buss behind all of the Lakers success. I think it was first of all Jerry West more so, plus the fortune of the Lakers brand combined with the draw of Los Angeles that were more vital to the success of the Lakers.

When it comes to Jerry Buss, don't mistake fortune for diligence or intelligence. He certainly can be questioned.

[Muser]

Lakers have been winning championships long before Kobe and long after. Our franchise le window isn't dedicated to one player (like Spurs and Duncan).

I'll be a hypocrite and bite.

San Antonio have had 3 franchise players in their history (Gervin,Robinson and Duncan)

L.A have had way more (Kareem, Magic, Wilt, Shaq, Kobe, Worthy?, Baylor, West)

Obviously L.A is gonna attract the big names, hence why they are successful.

[milkshakeballa]

I'll be a hypocrite and bite.

San Antonio have had 3 franchise players in their history (Gervin,Robinson and Duncan)

L.A have had way more (Kareem, Magic, Wilt, Shaq, Kobe, Worthy?, Baylor, West)

Obviously L.A is gonna attract the big names, hence why they are successful.

but how many championship have they won with the other 2?

[Muser]

but how many championship have they won with the other 2?

Robinson has 2


Gervin has none, but being realistic nobody was beating showtime in the late 70's/80's.

[milkshakeballa]

When kobe hang up his hyperdunk, its over for the purple and pisst. Who is your next great laker cornerstone, Bynum

LOL they said it when Wilt left...then said it when Kareem retired....they said it when Magic has to suddenly retire from HIV....they said it when we traded shaq....and they will continue to say it in the future...

[TheManFromAcme]

Yup..so just be happy your in 4th place

Ouch!

[FireDavidStern]

Hmm....there is such thing as second place. 30 FINALS apperances for this illustrious franchise. That's being elite every freaking year in this league. Amazing huh?

I think Boston fans care abotu droughts...they are about to go on another one!! You guys might care about droughts when Duncan retires (unless you tank again)....us Laker fans....a few years IS a drought...its great...and we don't have many of them....one small couple year drought every few decades...we can live with it

Are you bragging about the Lakers only winning half of their finals appearances? Also 89 to 99 is more than a few years.

[johngateswhiteley]

he is not a ing doctor...he has a PhD. tired of people calling him dr. buss. call him...oh, and i know this may be a stretch...Mr. Buss or Jerry Buss or if you must, Jerry Buss PhD.

but laker fans are a bunch of s...i'm not surprised.

[DPG21920]

cuz DPG90210 is known never to let things go...ever...this thread will hit 202 pages before he stops.

LMFAO at you sons. The laker crew are the ones always arguing. Look at the main threads on this board in the NBA section and see who has more posts, me or the laker crew individuals.

Yall argue and troll on everyone. Don't be mad when you get called out for it.

[DPG21920]

Yup..so just be happy your in 4th place

Nope, with Laker fan logic, Spurs are tied with the Lakers, behind the Celtics. Laker "fans" always say only the best can talk to them, so the only fans who can talk are Celtic fans. That is it. STFU losers.

[iggypop123]

he does have a phd. DR. is either from being a MD, PHD. or a rap artist.i doubt its the latter

[La Peace]

This is a cool discussion

[resistanze]

The mother er has a PhD in chemistry.

[ElNono]

I don't think a 4 year deal was ever in the table, was it? My understanding is that he wants 4 or 5 years, but the Lakers never offered more than 3?
(I mean, besides the $1 million difference in salary)

Anybody?

[carrao45]

I don't give a about Dr. Buss. Odom needs to be back, i don't care if Buss has to pay 20 Million.

[Culburn369]

Buss has 9 NBA Championships during his Los Angeles Lakers stewardship of 30 years.

I God's.

You don't see that bandied about Media, eh?

[carrao45]

When kobe hang up his hyperdunk, its over for the purple and pisst. Who is your next great laker cornerstone, Bynum

History Man...The Lakers always bounce back.

When Kobe hangs em up, The Lakers will get a new Superstar fairly quickly.
Mikan, then Baylor&West, then Wilt, then Kareem, then Magic, then Worthy, then Shaq&Kobe, then Gasol.

History, Superstar and Star players are drawn to LA and the Lakers

[carrao45]

Robinson has 2


Gervin has none, but being realistic nobody was beating showtime in the late 70's/80's.

Showtime didn't exist in the late 70's, just the 80's

[carrao45]

Anybody?

Lakers offered 3yr 27 Million, 3yr 30 Million, 4yr 36 Million.
In that order

[Culburn369]

Showtime didn't exist in the late 70's, just the 80's

After Magic ran Nixon & Westhead off

[DPG21920]

Ya but sometimes you get Kwame sometimes you get Kobe. It is a crap shoot. If the Lakers do not start managing their cap space better, they won't be able to pluck FA's away anymore.

Maybe that is why the Sasha/Luke/Vlads contracts are being taken out on Ariza/Odom.

[Culburn369]

Ya but sometimes you get Kwame sometimes you get Kobe.

Yeah, but, Kwame turned into Gasol.

[KidCongo]

I may be over-stepping my boundaries here, but I'd say you could bet money one of the top 3 High School Freshmans or Sophmores from this year to wind up on the Lakers once Kobe retires.

I cant wait to see this start all over agin.

We'll be watching them bust.

[ElNono]

Lakers offered 3yr 27 Million, 3yr 30 Million, 4yr 36 Million.
In that order

Thanks.