NBA is full of lies!
my insider says Odom will sign with Grindavik. pastilles was the deal closer. can't blame him, kobe is a little tiny shrimpy .
NBA is full of lies!
First of all, a lot of misinformation spread in this thread.
NBA players pay state taxes depending on where they are playing each game. So in reality Odom saves 5% or so, assuming a 10% state tax. It still is not anywhere near what the Lakers are offering, plain and simple.
Rule of thumb with 99% of NBA players is to follow the money. So unless there is something devastating going on behind the scenes here, I think we can safely assume this is just posturing by both sides....eerily similar to the whole Manny Ramirez situation.
And Spur fan, some simple math for you. 15 >>>> 4. I'll laugh when you get bounced in the 1st round again by the Mavericks
Hardware is hardware...get over it! and have a good day!
I'm with the posters saying it doesn't make sense. If really Heat or another team sign LO it would be linked to ego stupid stuff. It's a business you cannot jeopardize your chance to win another LOB because you have a huge ego or leave a team for a comparable offer just because you're pissed, it's a non sense.
You use the championships hardware argument, against a guy who clearly said 15 Trophies>>>>4 Trophies.stupid
BTW DrHouse was wrong...15>>>>>>>>>>>4...now that's more like it
Dr, per usual with a much needed house call. I feel much better now after being attended to by Dr. House.
Sometimes working for less money is better than getting paid but working with a bunch of ing pricks.
Pricks or not, you don't leave a team that has potential to be a dynasty over 2 mil.
dude..thats alot of reaching in your posts. I know you want to find reasons why Lamar wants to leave, but your reasons are dumb. He wants a bigger shot at a contract next time? Then why take a 5 year contract over a 3 year? Nice try though.
i don't think he ever liked playing with Kobe. and you can talk about him and Artest being friends all you want, but he probably likes the idea of playing behind both Kobe and Artest even less.
go to Miami, get a starting gig, chill on the beach, forget about Kobe Tyrant.
I'm starting to kind of possibly see Lamar's point of view and why he will almost certainly not be a Laker. With the Lakers, its about the money. With another team, it isn't. Let me explain.
If Lamar stays with the Lakers maybe it IS about the money because he wants to Lakers to show him appreciation for his championship contributions, just as Ariza did. If Lamar leaves for another team, I honestly think he'd be willing to take the MLE and take comfort in knowing that he has 5 years of guaranteed money, even if the total is less than what he could have gotten to stay in L.A. Obviously Lamar can't expect another team to "appreciate" his championship efforts because only the Lakers are in a position to do that.
Honestly, I think Lamar truly believes in his own talent because he wants to start and be a big part of the team. With the Lakers, there are just NO guarantees for him. Playing behind Pau, who is better, and Drew who is rapidly improving and expected to be a star next year, what kind of minutes is Lamar realistically going to get? Sure on the occasional game when Pau or Drew is in foul trouble, Lamar will see big minutes or maybe IF (and that's a big IF) Drew or Pau get injured for an extended period of time, Lamar will see big minutes. Otherwise, he's going to be a sitting on the bench half of every game, twiddling his thumbs. Lamar's probably thinking, "Hey, if I'm not even going to get big minutes while I'm still in the prime of my career, the least they can do is pay me." I feel that it is this line of thinking that has lead Lamar astray. Some players feel they are too talented to come off the bench and Lamar may be one of these types of players.
Gee, I'm glad I have thick skin!: Thanks for pointing out my obvious error.
And with the correction; my point still stands whether >>>> or <<<<
having the hardware is the issue regardless how many or how few you have...as long as you have it.![]()
Yeah because Kobe knows how to treat his teammates with respect. NOT.
Agreed. But, the same should be said for the other side.
An owner shouldn't risk damaging dynasty hopes over $2 million.
This would be stupid posturing on both sides and a horrible screw up for the front office of the Lakers. The Artest over Ariza is fine, but losing Odom for nothing and having no money to replace him would be foolish.
Everyone keeps saying how bad ass Buss is and that you don't mess with him. You say look where that got Shaq (in Miami with another ring; are we seeing a pattern?). Well sometimes you have to do right by your best players. I thought the first offer was fair from LA, but Odom did not. It would be foolish to put such a big dent in your championship hopes over this. Foolish.
Now it is a pride thing and a guy like Odom seems to be pretty big on the "respect" factor of negotiations. Just like Ariza, he wants to feel wanted. Pulling the offer was a mistake and not offering him at least the same out of some sense of foolish pride would be a bigger mistake.
All I've got to say is, thank god for Sasha, Luke and Morrison, or else LA would have been able to sign Artest while keeping Ariza and Odom which would have been downright scary.
Not before the spurs bounce your team out of the playoffs.![]()
I guess some people are wired differently. Its not nearly the same, not by any means, but I had a job where I was making really good money and was practically guaranteed a management position but I just couldnt stand my boss and the general working environment. I packed up and went to a job thats paying me less but I am MUCH happier.
If I where in the same position as Lamar I think I would stick to the same principles. Id rather be making OK money and be happy than be making GOOD money, plus promise of advancement but feel like every day when I have to go to work.
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by no means am I saying this is the reason he is leaving the Lakers but resentment has to be at least part of it.
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Gee, don't know. Why don't you fill in to the best of your ability.![]()
I don't see why Buss just doesn't pony up the cash, if the issue is over 4 more million, I think he should suck it up and pony up the cash.
It's laughable how laker fans are saying Odom is not important and etc... and how he isn't worth 4 more mil, when it's not even their money being talked about here. And when or if the lakers get eliminated in 2nd or in the WCF, their gna be a million buss is an idiot threads for not paying Odom.
And let's be realistic the lakers from last year were good, but with an injury riddled league, they were pushed to the brink by the rockets and could have loss to the nuggets. And how do they answer back to that? by losing ariza and possibly odom, and gaining artest.
And this is the reality of business. Lamar Odom for all his stupidity, can't be so stupid as not to see that players of lesser talent and value as him were getting larger and longer contracts. And his own team is giving him half of what other people are getting.
Truth be told, all laker fans are complaining about lamar not having loyalty and being stupid, how bout some loyalty for him? He was a big part of the laker championship team and he knows it, how do the owners react? by paying him a lot less than what he is worth, it's not like he's 35 and pass his prime.
No one in his right mind in any industry can stomach getting paid less or the same amount as other workers who are doing less work and are less effective and talented.
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