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    Here's what I think the Spurs did. A 3 year deal starting at full MLE, totalling $15 mil with a partial guaranteed 3yrd year would look like this.:

    Yr 1 - $5.854
    Yr 2 - $6.322
    Yr 3 - $2.824 (the guaranteed portion only)
    Total - $15.000

    But the Spurs could have told Dyess they needed to save some of that MLE for Blair and then offered him a 3 year deal starting at something less than the MLE that would still net him the $15 mil over the 3 years. That would look like this:

    Yr 1 - $4.630
    Yr 2 - $5.000
    Yr 3 - $5.370
    Total - $15.000

    This would save the Spurs around $1.2 mil of their MLE and guarantee Dyess his $15 mil, but Dyess would be taking a hit in years 1 and 2. However the CBA allows teams to take 20% of the contract value and pay that in the first year as a signing bonus. I won't get into all the mumbo jumbo on how all that works but you can read about it here. http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#Q62

    What it ends up working out to is that Dyess would actually be cashing checks as follows.:

    Yr 1 - $6.630
    Yr 2 - $4.000
    Yr 3 - $4.370
    Total - $15.000

    Even though Dyess would end up recieving more money in the 1st year than the actual MLE, it works because the CBA states that a player's cap figure is equal to the amount he earns, not the amount he gets paid. There's a distinction here because Dyess is in essence getting paid money in the 1st year that he hasn't actually earned yet. But he doesn't care and the Spurs are okay with it because it allows them to save some of their MLE. It's win-win. This couldn't have happened without Dyess agreeing to it so we owe him our thanks.
    Great job CG!

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    Blair is the

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    Damn right he is.



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    It's feels good to sign and b a spur I am excited GO SPURS LOL!!!!!
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    Somebody tell Blair that's not how you're supposed to do that chant.

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    GO SPURS L O L

    I can see it working.

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    GO SPURS L O L

    I can see it working.
    Good luck getting the fans to do anything out loud

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    Nice, that is a fair deal.

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    Good luck getting the fans to do anything out loud
    They're loud when the games mean something.

    I can't say I'm loud in the middle of November against the Memphis Grizzlies.

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    Don't quote me on this because these numbers are third hand from an agent but he says the numbers he has heard for McDyess' contract are as followed:

    2009-10: $4,510,000
    2010-11: $4,690,000
    2011-12: $2,500,000

    With the third year having another $2,500,000 in unguaranteed money.
    If those numbers are accurate, which I have no idea if they are or not, that's a of deal for McDyess

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    Wow. If that's true that's only $11.7 guaranteed. Full MLE is $5.85. Looks like the Spurs just pony up 2 years worth of full MLE money but get to spread it out over 3 years.

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    The reason why they signed him so quick is if you noticed he did not play the 2nd game in the Summer League. He advised the Spurs he would not play again until his contract was finalized.

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    Wow. If that's true that's only $11.7 guaranteed. Full MLE is $5.85. Looks like the Spurs just pony up 2 years worth of full MLE money but get to spread it out over 3 years.
    I haven't checked the CBA but do you know if teams are allowed to change the growth percentage in the contract like that? In that supposed McDyess contract, the raise from the first year to the second year is smaller than the second year to the third year.

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    Wow. If that's true that's only $11.7 guaranteed. Full MLE is $5.85. Looks like the Spurs just pony up 2 years worth of full MLE money but get to spread it out over 3 years.
    and if they trade him in year 3 in offseason do not even have to pay the 2full mle to him

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    The reason why they signed him so quick is if you noticed he did not play the 2nd game in the Summer League. He advised the Spurs he would not play again until his contract was finalized.
    False. The Spurs and his agent were close to a deal before the game and the Spurs decided to move up his rest day since he had to have another physical before signing his deal. Blair wasn't aware he wasn't going to play until right before the tip.

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    I haven't checked the CBA but do you know if teams are allowed to change the growth percentage in the contract like that? In that supposed McDyess contract, the raise from the first year to the second year is smaller than the second year to the third year.
    I haven't checked either but I'm pretty sure you can so long as you're not exceeding the 8% jump between any two seasons.

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    We don't know if we have the real numbers or not, but hyothetically if the Spurs got Dice and Blair for great prices, could they split the MLE three ways if there was still something left?

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    No it is true..........


    Spurs Sit DeJuan Blair in Summer League


    Posted: 7/15/2009 5:55:00 AM


    Blair, a second-round pick out of Pittsburgh, was held for contractual reasons. As in, he doesn't have one, and doesn't want to risk injury until he does.

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    We don't know if we have the real numbers or not, but hyothetically if the Spurs got Dice and Blair for great prices, could they split the MLE three ways if there was still something left?
    Depends how Blair's contract is structured (I'm trying to find that out now). But even in the best case scenarios, there's barely anymore room.

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    No it is true..........


    Spurs Sit DeJuan Blair in Summer League


    Posted: 7/15/2009 5:55:00 AM


    Blair, a second-round pick out of Pittsburgh, was held for contractual reasons. As in, he doesn't have one, and doesn't want to risk injury until he does.
    link?

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    Spurs Sit DeJuan Blair in Summer League


    Posted: 7/15/2009 5:55:00 AM


    Blair, a second-round pick out of Pittsburgh, was held for contractual reasons. As in, he doesn't have one, and doesn't want to risk injury until he does.
    Alright, believe what you want.

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    Roughly, Blair's contract starts with a $835K salary for 2009-10 if it's "normal" (max raises each year). Combined with McDyess' rumored salary, that would be a combined $5.345 mil. So the Spurs would have something like $555K left over out of the MLE.

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    Roughly, Blair's contract starts with a $835K salary for 2009-10 if it's "normal" (max raises each year). Combined with McDyess' rumored salary, that would be a combined $5.345 mil. So the Spurs would have something like $555K left over out of the MLE.
    Nice work.

    That tells me the Spurs planned to save just enough money after McDyess and Blair to give one of their second round picks (either McClinton or Gist) a three-year deal using the MLE.




    P.S.

    That $4,510,000 looks like a random number to give McDyess this year but now that the other pieces are falling into place, it makes sense.

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    Nice work.

    That tells me the Spurs planned to save just enough money after McDyess and Blair to give one of their second round picks (either McClinton or Gist) a three-year deal using the MLE.




    P.S.

    That $4,510,000 looks like a random number to give McDyess this year but now that the other pieces are falling into place, it makes sense.
    and the spurs have still the LLE right ?

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