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I know this is the first time someone on the internet has disagreed with you, but it happens. I don't need to make six figures to cover the cost of living in ca.
Then you should understand this.
I know this is the first time someone on the internet has disagreed with you, but it happens. I don't need to make six figures to cover the cost of living in ca.
I'll be gald to walk you through this.
If you graduate 8th grade, you don't refer to 9th grade as "grad school."
fixed.If you graduate from the 8th grade, you don't refer to 9th grade as "grad school."
Ok, I am going to try and give you a better explination since this seems to a little over your head.
Lets assume you graduate with your masters in whatever, how about Psycology. Now you start your own practice and you do well for yourself, you pull in 200,000 a year.
So you live in LA, making your 200,000 and of course you have expenses. You go out and party with the ladies at the bar, you catch a Laker game at the Staples center, you go out to eat with your mom, you pay car insurance, private school for your kids, and so on and so forth. In a year you spend maybe 150,000 and save maybe 50,000. Now making 200,000 a year has afforded you a nice "standard of living".
Now the way this works is, you could maintain that same standard of living in Miami for on average 15% less of the cost. You could have the same house, eat at the equivilent places, go to a Heat game, have your kids get the same level of education, etc. So a salary of 170,000 in Miami is equivilent to you as your 200,000 in LA.
Could Lamar pay the same amount to live in both cities? Yes he could, but his standard of living would be considerably less in LA.
There are differences but its not going to be in hundreds of thousands or millions. If you think that would be the difference then I think you might be overestimating your figures. And if you want to factor in all of those minuscule variables and throw them together in hopes that they become significant, you might as well factor in the cost of a real estate agent, relocating your entire family, new house, pro-rated bills, etc.
My bottom line is it doesn't matter as much as the contract and state taxes on said contract. If Odom will leave then he will leave. I don't believe that Odom and his agent are sitting their basing their decision on who to sign with on how much he will save on his monthly grocery bill or any other bills you brought up. If you do then we just disagree.
I am not over estimating anything. I estimated 15% difference in my original outline and you claimed via some tenth graders tweeted spreadsheet that I was wrong. The actual difference is closer to 20% as linked to you earlier. For you or I, the difference might not be much, but NBA stars live extravagant life stlyes and over the course of 3-5 years that adds up, and yes it will add up to thousands or millions of dollars over the long haul which is why these charts exist in the first place.
Again, moving is nothing, and a new house is simply an available opportunity cost. He could sell his LA house and buy the same size, style for cheaper in Miami, thats the whole point, thus making himself money.
My bottom line is Laker fans keep claiming that these free agents are stupid for taking less money, etc. when in fact they are ignoring the big picture.
Thats exactly what they are doing, otherwise Odom would of just chosen right then and there. He is checking out local schools for his kids, finding where the closest candy heaven is, and so on and so forth. Weighing the pros and cons. We don't disagree, you seem to be challenging basic Economic theory.
Thats cool man, but the fact is neither of us have any idea how much Odom spends per year. Neither of us do his taxes. So to make an argument based off the assumption goes against Occam's Razor, and is a refutable argument.
Oh really? Oh yeah you're right because Odom and his agent need to figure out how much it costs to live in Miami. Oh man If only they moved/lived/played there for like maybe a year or so before then they wouldn't have to go through all of that mess again.Thats exactly what they are doing, otherwise Odom would of just chosen right then and there. He is checking out local schools for his kids, finding where the closest candy heaven is, and so on and so forth. Weighing the pros and cons. We don't disagree, you seem to be challenging basic Economic theory.
And to top if off you drop the common sense phrase opportunity cost and call your argument economic theory.
LOL, give up man.
I would but, you tried to make a concrete argument based on assumptions which is a slippery slope. You were also assuming that Lamar lives in Los Angeles year round like you or I would in our cities. From Oct-June he is on the road half the time, out of CA. And you know where he spends his summers? Yeah, his home in NYC, thats also where his record label is based. Where he spends a large chunk of his money. I could go on, but I digress.
all this second guessing and bla bla bla for a guy that averages 11 and 8?
Jamstone already made all the valid arguments. And Odom, despite not having a mul ude of offers, has the freedom to choose what he wants when he wants, regardless of economic theory, buss' left nut, or how many laker fans/haters are holding their breath.
It's amazing how obsessed with money most Lakers fans are (or at least the ones posting to these threads). They simply cannot believe that another player would go somewhere else for less money.
Kind of sad, really. Life doesn't and shouldn't revolve around little green pieces of paper.
Man, this is like talking to a brick wall.
I've given you my reasons for thinking this is just about the money while conceding this might not be just about the money.
I have no illusions that some players prefer to live someplace else. Odom
, for instance, spends alot of time in NY and has a very nice house in Miami.
No one can seem to tell me that if this is not about the money, why didn't he commit already.
What is he waiting for?
Edit: man, this woulda been alot easier on my computer. Sorry for the disjointed and brief response.
Can the Spurs win without Odom? Can the Celtics win without Odom...im sure the Lakers will find a way to win without Odom.
99% of the time it's all about the money with professional athletes.
Don't be naive.
If we found a way to win without West, Jabbar, Magic, Daddy, Riley, I too am sure we can find a way without Odom.
The constant thru all of the above losses is Jerry "9 NBA World Championships" Buss.
we lost our sixth man..though it hurts, its not the end of the world.
Sixth man, but 3rd best player on the team with an insane +/- and length/versatility that eases matchups!
I would still view Odomless Lakers as best in West though, but behind the Celtics/Cavs/Magic... on paper at least... I dunno.
Just Ghazi's take.
Even with Odom we're behind the Celtics. These Celtics are our biggest challenge. Our only legitimate challenge. They physically & most importantly mentally pulverized us a year ago and we must respond if given the platform. We cannot choose our compe ion, but, the Celtics are out there, and they alone are our greatest threat and our greatest motivation.
That's why I'm extremely happy to be a Spurs fan.Not saying it ISN'T about the money with our players, but I don't think that's the only factor in San Antonio.
As I've said before already, maybe he hasn't made up his mind yet? Choosing where your life will be for the next 3-5 years is what I would call a fairly big decision.
No worries. Are you on an iPhone?Edit: man, this woulda been alot easier on my computer. Sorry for the disjointed and brief response.
I love this kind of arrogance. It's the kind of thing that can get you slapped in the 2nd round of the playoffs by a young hungry team with nothing to lose.
Last edited by Cry Havoc; 07-17-2009 at 11:54 AM.
Cry, c'mon, you know I'm not talking via arrogance. It's just simply [on consignment] the Lakers are at a different level then every other team. The Celtics, though not NBA Champs are our betters. Could've's/Should've's abound out there. Your Spurs at the top of the list. But, as cons uted this morning, nothing has transpired since Championship nite a month ago that denigrates the Lakers in the slightest. The Celtics were there before Orlando was snuffed, and they're still there. But, they're there alone.
Because even if it's not just about the money, it doesn't mean all the other factors make his decision easy. It may have very little to do with money, and he still might not know what he wants to do.
And, I don't think anyone said that it wasn't about the money at all. Money is a factor. Odom is probably still waiting to see how Millsap and the Blazers deal works out if Utah really is matching. He and his agent may also be pursuing every possible scenario and that can take time.
You assume that if Lamar knows he doesn't want to re-sign with the Lakers that he knows exactly what he wants to do. That won't necessarily be the case. Maybe there are a handful of teams that have contacted him gauging his interest and he's still mulling things over. Maybe he equally likes the prospects of going back to Miami and going home to New York and the potential of Portland regardless of money and he's weighing all the factors.
It not being all about the money doesn't mean Odom has to decide right now. He's got plenty of time to make a decision. Maybe he genuinely wants to return to the Lakers and is just working the negotiation process very patiently.
Your question lacks thoughtful consideration of all factors. Just because it's not all about the money doesn't mean he has to have made his mind up already.
You also have to consider that Teams move on, so his lack of not "making up his mind" is also hindering some aspects of deals he is getting.
Losing your 3rd and (arguably) fifth best player doesn't hurt your team's chances? MANY Lakers fans would disagree with you, and have.
That doesn't mean Odom waiting this thing out has to deal with only money, which was the issue I was responding to. In fact, it would appear to be the contrary if you do believe teams are moving on from him not making up his mind.
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