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    you notice how they never move the camera up or in a complete circle?
    Who cares?

    All these concerns have been addressed. What I would like you conspiracy theorists explain is how do you simulate 1/6th gravity to do all the filming. I've heard the wire bit, but what did they do? Place spider web silk on all the dust that also was disturbed? Please. How did they simulate 1/6th gravity, and create a studio sized room with zero pressure. That would be technology well beyond what it takes to place a man on the moon.

    The vacuum. Our atmosphere is 14.7 PSI at sea level. A studio wall only 25 ft high and 50 ft long would have 1323 tons of force pushing in on it. Yes, 2,646,000 pounds of force. Well over 2 million pounds. What is involved in making a wall that can survive that? I'm sure, such a feat in a studio, required larger than a 25' by 50' wall on each side. Did they have materials advanced enough to do that then? Do we now?

    The shadows? Wide angle and telephoto lenses distort views. The eyes are in the neighborhood of a 80 mm focal length if I remember right. Longer or shorter lenses change a photographic perspective. There are also images that the angle looks wring because the surface isn't flat. Very hard to discern 3D on a 2D photo.

    No dust under the lander. No Sherlock. It was all blown away from the landing, down to a solid surface.

    The Van Allen belt is primarily plasma. No big deal. The aluminum Command Module was plenty of protection. Learn your radiation types before being duped by propaganda. Some of us play with it on a daily basis:

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    More on the radiation, the limited amount there is:

    Wiki: Van Allen Belt
    A satellite shielded by 3 mm of aluminum in an elliptic orbit passing through the radiation belt will receive about 2,500 rem (25 Sv) per year. Almost all radiation will be received while passing the inner belt.
    Wiki: Röntgen equivalent man (REM)
    A dose of under 100 rems is subclinical and will produce nothing other than blood changes. 100 to 200 rems will cause illness but will rarely be fatal. Doses of 200 to 1000 rems will likely cause serious illness with poor outlook at the upper end of the range. Doses of more than 1000 rems are almost invariably fatal
    It was just a matter of hours they were traveling through that radiation. Lets assume 12 hours. that would be 1/730 of the 2,500 rems, or 3.42 rems. It would take almost 30 days to get 100 rems of radiation, and it was only a three day trip, one way. The Van Allen belt does not extend far from the Earth.

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    Who cares?

    All these concerns have been addressed. What I would like you conspiracy theorists explain is how do you simulate 1/6th gravity to do all the filming. I've heard the wire bit, but what did they do? Place spider web silk on all the dust that also was disturbed? Please. How did they simulate 1/6th gravity, and create a studio sized room with zero pressure. That would be technology well beyond what it takes to place a man on the moon.

    The vacuum. Our atmosphere is 14.7 PSI at sea level. A studio wall only 25 ft high and 50 ft long would have 1323 tons of force pushing in on it. Yes, 2,646,000 pounds of force. Well over 2 million pounds. What is involved in making a wall that can survive that? I'm sure, such a feat in a studio, required larger than a 25' by 50' wall on each side. Did they have materials advanced enough to do that then? Do we now?

    The shadows? Wide angle and telephoto lenses distort views. The eyes are in the neighborhood of a 80 mm focal length if I remember right. Longer or shorter lenses change a photographic perspective. There are also images that the angle looks wring because the surface isn't flat. Very hard to discern 3D on a 2D photo.

    No dust under the lander. No Sherlock. It was all blown away from the landing, down to a solid surface.

    The Van Allen belt is primarily plasma. No big deal. The aluminum Command Module was plenty of protection. Learn your radiation types before being duped by propaganda. Some of us play with it on a daily basis:

    Good ol wild cobra here to disagree with anything I say. I say the earth is round you say it's Oval. I say the sky is blue you say its an aqua, and so on...your just bitter since your Daddy Bush and his tree house gang are being investigated and all the bull you and your salad tossing friend yonnivore have been spewing in the political forum is now coming back to bite you on the ass.

    First off in your post you say...Why not sit back read more and post less and you might see who cares, you bring the same thick headed response about 9/11 as soon as someone finds out new information good ol Cobra is right there with his "who cares?"

    Well apparently you must to leave your political romper room and abandon your only three Republican pals to respond so I think not only do you care but deep down inside you crave this .

    Then you start talking like this...
    No Sherlock.
    And that is where I move on to intelligent posters who can somehow maintain there lame and very played out insults.

    But just for the forum I will say this...if your so confident the The Van Allen belts are so safe then take your Bush loving ass up there next time Nasa has another 10 billion to blow on another useless satellite.

    Fact: The Russians logged 100 hours to every 20 hours the united states logged in space and knew the dangers of the The Van Allen belts therefore limited their space journeys to not exceed the space it would take to reach the deadly radiation belts. Even Nasa own astronauts complained about seeing flashes of light with there eyes shut when they got to close to the belts and sure sign of radiation. And you have the nerve to say aluminum foil is all the protection you need when a dental Xray tech has to hide behind a two foot lead plated wall just to do dental xrays? Please tell me your smoking weed that I can excuse..And to think all this time the Russians and Nasa could have just came to SpursTalk and checked with Wild Cobra to ensure the danger was not a big deal?

    I'm sorry bro you better stick to defending and George in the politics forum the evidence is to overwhelming and you will be made a fool.

    I must admit your comedy skills are improving...

    The Van Allen belt is primarily plasma. No big deal. The aluminum Command Module was plenty of protection. Learn your radiation types before being duped by propaganda. Some of us play with it on a daily basis:




    I will not comment on this next quote since any 4th or 5th grader learns in school about light and shadows and never under any cir stances do the bend unless there are more than one source. I think you should have left this one out of your so called intelligent postings. It's really beneath you brah.

    The shadows? Wide angle and telephoto lenses distort views. The eyes are in the neighborhood of a 80 mm focal length if I remember right. Longer or shorter lenses change a photographic perspective. There are also images that the angle looks wring because the surface isn't flat. Very hard to discern 3D on a 2D photo.
    I would love you tell us all how the United states flag was flapping in a so called wind less environment?





    And tell us oh great wise Cobra why the stars are never seen,photographed, or talked about. I'm am curious as I know you will be searching Google for all the debunking websites that never let you down.

    Memo to Cobra: There are debunking sites about everything form no God. The earth is 45 Billion years old, and WTC came down due to fire that doesn't make them fact. Then again you already know about facts that's why your Wild Cobra.

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    But just for the forum I will say this...if your so confident the The Van Allen belts are so safe then take your Bush loving ass up there next time Nasa has another 10 billion to blow on another useless satellite.
    If I could only be invited on a space mission, I would go in a heartbeat. The Van Aleen belt is safe for short periods of time, when shielded by aluminum. Please remember that the link I quoted gave specific numbers for a 3 mm thickness. 3 mm is very close to 1/8 inch.
    Fact: The Russians logged 100 hours to every 20 hours the united states logged in space and knew the dangers of the The Van Allen belts therefore limited their space journeys to not exceed the space it would take to reach the deadly radiation belts. Even Nasa own astronauts complained about seeing flashes of light with there eyes shut when they got to close to the belts and sure sign of radiation. And you have the nerve to say aluminum foil is all the protection you need when a dental Xray tech has to hide behind a two foot lead plated wall just to do dental xrays? Please tell me your smoking weed that I can excuse..And to think all this time the Russians and Nasa could have just came to SpursTalk and checked with Wild Cobra to ensure the danger was not a big deal?
    Fact because a British woman said so?

    Link please, that describes the dangers inside a capsule. Also, how strong are any X-Ray types of radiation? There's far more alpha radiation, which is relatively harmless.

    Besides, notice she specifically says "for space walking astronauts."

    Wow... Who would go into the Van Allen belt in just a space suit. That would be idiotic. Probably be as safe as going down a sledding course on crumbly hard snow naked, instead on on the sled.
    I will not comment on this next quote since any 4th or 5th grader learns in school about light and shadows and never under any cir stances do the bend unless there are more than one source. I think you should have left this one out of your so called intelligent postings. It's really beneath you brah.
    Idiot. I did not say bend. The angle of the landscape changes how shadows lay.
    I would love you tell us all how the United states flag was flapping in a so called wind less environment?
    Static electricity and solar wind.

    Any idea how the quickly the static charge forms in a vacuum from just the solar radiation?

    Lean the sciences please.
    And tell us oh great wise Cobra why the stars are never seen,photographed, or talked about. I'm am curious as I know you will be searching Google for all the debunking websites that never let you down.
    Has to do with the ratio of light. The lumens from the sun are so much more intense from the stars that they get washed out.
    Memo to Cobra: There are debunking sites about everything form no God. The earth is 45 Billion years old, and WTC came down due to fire that doesn't make them fact. Then again you already know about facts that's why your Wild Cobra.
    I didn't use a debunking site. I understand the sciences.

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    I wonder how much the budget was for the moon landing movie, I mean landing.
    The moon looked more realistic in the movie Moon that it did in those old videos of the moon landing.

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    Wild Cobra I am doing a data recovery I have my reply saved on note pad I just need a few links and spell check and after a few boot ups I will post my reply.

    will you be around?


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    while I am working can you debunk the astronaut's arm that got in the way of the camera?



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    I wasn't born yet but I'm old enough not to fall for the hoax theory.

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    I wasn't born yet but I'm old enough not to fall for the hoax theory.
    No . The wire theory doesn't work, especially with the dust flying the way it does. The frame they repeat, on helping the other guy up, if you watch carefully, you can see he pushes himself up with his left hand, either from the other guys right hand, or maybe knee.

    I cannot explain all, but I can think of possibilities, including, those saying it's a hoax, doctoring the pictures themselves.

    Too much was spot on with physics. They didn't have the ability to fake that in the 60's.

    Mouse, believe as you want. None of the footage you linked looks at all fake to me.

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    This is just too funny!

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    Mouse, believe as you want. None of the footage you linked looks at all fake to me.
    Ok Cobra I will try and respond this mans laptop has more infections than GIG's penis. I like how he wants me to flush out all his Trojans but doesn't want to lose any of his gay porn.

    Lets review...

    Fact: The USSR was light years ahead of the Americans and knew traveling to the moon was impossible at the time.

    Fact: The USA has never invited any of the Russians to join them on their so called many trips to the moon.

    Fact Neil Armstrong has never given a live on TV interview, what is he hiding?

    Fact: The Apollo Lunar Module was impossible to control and they crashed it trying to learn how to operate it.

    And yet they was able to land on the moon on the first try perfectly?

    who writes this comedy?


    Fact: The 10,000 per square inch thruster rockets that allowed the so called lunar model to land would have been extremely loud and yet you don't hear a sound and the astronauts voices are clear?

    Come on Cobra even you have to find that hard to digest!










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    This is just too funny!
    Yeah it is.

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    Wild Cobra- I have seen the magic of motion pictures…Close Encounters, Jaws, Harry Potter, Godfather…Did James Caan really get machined gun to pieces? It sure looked real….Did that guy really get cut in half with a chain saw in Scarface? The Moon Landing was another well made film that lifted the spirits of Americans during the cold war…I plan on ordering the new enhanced version on DVD…

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    Is someone getting ready to tell me there is no such thing as Santa?


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    July 16, 1969.
    I was 8 yrs old and remember watching in on our Zenith Black & White TV. To this day Space exploration fascinates me
    I also watched it on a B&W TV. I was 9.

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    Is Alien Autopsy real just because we watched it on TV?

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    Wild Cobra- I have seen the magic of motion pictures…Close Encounters, Jaws, Harry Potter, Godfather…Did James Caan really get machined gun to pieces? It sure looked real….Did that guy really get cut in half with a chain saw in Scarface? The Moon Landing was another well made film that lifted the spirits of Americans during the cold war…I plan on ordering the new enhanced version on DVD…

    I was shocked Wild Cobra would say the technology to do it was not there also. it was kinda non wild cobra like to make such a cheesy statement.

    remember the President himself before he was shot said America will land on the moon before the decade was over it was important to keep the USSR from using there nukes on us if that ain't reason enough to lie to the public what is?

    If you want to lie to Americans go for it! i have no problem if it saves lives just don't expect me to buy into it, like WTC7 just happened to fall at free fall speed due to a small fire.



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    Is Alien Autopsy real just because we watched it on TV?
    Are you for real just because you post here?

    You guys crack me up.

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    This proves that big lizards do exist. It was on TV!

    Poor Japanese people.


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    Lets review...

    [b]Fact: The USSR was light years ahead of the Americans and knew traveling to the moon was impossible at the time.
    Not true. They had some advances over us, we had some over them. They were in space before us, but not because they were better. I will assume they didn't care as much for safety.
    Fact: The USA has never invited any of the Russians to join them on their so called many trips to the moon.
    Why would you expect that in the middle of the Cold War? In the middle of the space race? That's right... Let's show the compe ion our secrets.
    Fact Neil Armstrong has never given a live on TV interview, what is he hiding?
    He's a very private and shy man. You should listen to interviews of the people who know him.
    Fact: The Apollo Lunar Module was impossible to control and they crashed it trying to learn how to operate it.

    And yet they was able to land on the moon on the first try perfectly?
    And how is that important? How do you test a vehicle that uses a 51/49 fuel ratio in an atmosphere that requires at least a 75/25 fuel mix, and is operating at a full gravity instead of 1/6th? Then of coarse, testing such a vehicle for the first time is done to work out such problems too.
    Fact: The 10,000 per square inch thruster rockets that allowed the so called lunar model to land would have been extremely loud and yet you don't hear a sound and the astronauts voices are clear?

    The rocket had 10,125 pounds of thrust. Not per square inch, idiot. I don't think you have got any facts right yet.

    Since when does sound travel in space? Did you know that all you hear is the "popping" sound of when the control valves turn on and off in the shuttle craft? The Lunar lander and Command module, being smaller, you can probably hear the fuel traveling in the piping, but it would sound like water running through a garden hose.
    Come on Cobra even you have to find that hard to digest!
    Not at all. I understand the facts. You obviously don't.

    You are now clearly a waste of time. Maybe if you tried to dispute the quotes from the wiki links about the rads per a satellite bets with 3 mm shielding, and tried to show me wrong. All you do is come up with more bull without disputing any points I make. I see you are far too ignorant of any scientific facts to have a reasonable debate.

    Goodbye.
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    Is someone getting ready to tell me there is no such thing as Santa?

    Careful. You don't want to instigate a holy war.

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    We are all not really here.....this is the Matrix.
    No, The Thirteenth Floor fits the situation better.

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    I watched the landing laying on the floor with my Mom and Dad. It gave me chills to watch it. It was just such a amazing feat. I will never forget it.

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